[Camelo Thread Part 6] - Update: NJ tries again Pg. 71

Post #341 » by **knicks742** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:24 pm

KnicksGod wrote:What does it matter if the Nets pull out. Melo is probably not going there anyway, which means Melo is the one pulling them out.

It matters from a perception perspective. Right now, they are using the Nets to make us move. The moment the Nets are no longer an option (although perhaps they never were), all the chips are on the table and we can call their bluff and get a deal done. Realistically, the idea that the Nets may get him is really the main reason they haven't gotten into substantive discussions with us.

towelie · Post #342 » by **towelie** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:33 pm

knicks742 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:What does it matter if the Nets pull out. Melo is probably not going there anyway, which means Melo is the one pulling them out.

It matters from a perception perspective. Right now, they are using the Nets to make us move. The moment the Nets are no longer an option (although perhaps they never were), all the chips are on the table and we can call their bluff and get a deal done. Realistically, the idea that the Nets may get him is really the main reason they haven't gotten into substantive discussions with us.

Yup, as long as that Favors + Nets 1st round pick (which could be top 5) is on the table, Denver won't even entertain NY. They'll just wait and wait and hope Carmelo budges from his stance.

If the Nets pull out, Denver will then have to seriously consider our offers.

FieldsMedal · Post #343 » by **FieldsMedal** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:36 pm

I think everybody should get used to the idea that IF anything happens, it won't be until near the deadline....

That's a LONG time from now.

Post #344 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:40 pm

knicks742 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:What does it matter if the Nets pull out. Melo is probably not going there anyway, which means Melo is the one pulling them out.

It matters from a perception perspective. Right now, they are using the Nets to make us move. The moment the Nets are no longer an option (although perhaps they never were), all the chips are on the table and we can call their bluff and get a deal done. Realistically, the idea that the Nets may get him is really the main reason they haven't gotten into substantive discussions with us.

True, it could impact negotiations to an extent.

stuporman · Post #345 » by **stuporman** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:41 pm

It's really got to be a tough decision for Melo.....

Either this....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8[/youtube]

Or this....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U7kuqow3gg[/youtube]

What will he do? Hhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

BigUgly · Post #346 » by **BigUgly** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:49 pm

Denver will let him walk than trade him to us. Especially if we low ball them. These guys are immature in Denver and spitefull. No way we get him via trade

god shammgod · Post #347 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:51 pm

lol - nets finally realize they may be getting played

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/70853/20101230/nets_grow_weary_of_carmelo_pursuit/#

Post #348 » by **GONYK** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:51 pm

BigUgly wrote:Denver will let him walk than trade him to us. Especially if we low ball them. These guys are immature in Denver and spitefull. No way we get him via trade

If they let that happen, then they are more than immature and spiteful. They are also stupid.

FieldsMedal · Post #349 » by **FieldsMedal** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:52 pm

BigUgly wrote:These guys are immature in Denver and spitefull.

What makes you say that?

Jay10 · Post #350 » by **Jay10** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:57 pm

lol, guess ujiri didn't learn anything from the bosh incident during the summer

Starksfor3 · Post #351 » by **Starksfor3** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:58 pm

Denver might as well take a shot at a ring. It's a small chance but if they don't like the package they are getting from us, what can they do?

BigUgly · Post #352 » by **BigUgly** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:58 pm

FieldsMedal wrote:
BigUgly wrote:These guys are immature in Denver and spitefull.

What makes you say that?

You relize we are dealing with a legacy baby here with the young son of the owner. I gurantee you they see trading Melo to us a a fail. They may regret it but i just get the feeling that they fear they have just backed down if they trade him here especially if it is .30 on the dollar. It would be great though if we get Melo w/o Landry

Jay10 · Post #353 » by **Jay10** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:01 pm

"As @KenBerg_CBS writes, NJ frustrated with Denver's price for Melo. DEN wants 5 first round picks as part of bigger package, sources tell Y!"

@WojYahooNBA

LMAO@ Denver wanting 5 first round picks

kingofk1ngs · Post #354 » by **kingofk1ngs** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:03 pm

Denver is nuckin futs if they want 5 first round picks for Melo when they have no leverage at all right now.

Post #355 » by **GONYK** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:03 pm

Starksfor3 wrote:Denver might as well take a shot at a ring. They have no chance but if they don't like the package they are getting from us, what can they do?

Fixed

FieldsMedal · Post #356 » by **FieldsMedal** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:04 pm

BigUgly wrote:You relize we are dealing with a legacy baby here with the young son of the owner.

yes.

I gurantee you they see trading Melo to us a a fail. They may regret it but i just get the feeling that they fear they have just backed down if they trade him here especially if it is .30 on the dollar.

So just so I understand, they are immature and spiteful if they don't agree to trading 'melo for $.30 on the dollar?

FieldsMedal · Post #357 » by **FieldsMedal** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:04 pm

double, sorry.

Pharmcat · Post #358 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:05 pm

I would say 'time to swoop in for the kil and get a trade done donnie!!!'

but the DEN FO is on crack, seem to be enjoying it too and are not ready to do real busines right now....they also seem spiteful

Post #359 » by **duetta** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:05 pm

It might make sense for the Nets to give up five picks so long as Harris and Favors stay put, and Melo gets added to that core. But not if Favors is heading west, as is Harris.

Jay10 · Post #360 » by **Jay10** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:09 pm

duetta wrote:It might make sense for the Nets to give up five picks so long as Harris and Favors stay put, and Melo gets added to that core. But not if Favors is heading west, as is Harris.

"Another problem for NJ, rival exec in talks says: In current multi-team discussions, NJ would give up Devin Harris w/o getting a PG back."

@WojYahooNBA