PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6

[jvsimonetti0514]

I was watching the debate and the game at the same time. I didn't really get to watch the game as close as I liked. You can certainly tell that they have just installed a new offense, that spacing was pretty bad in the first half. Rust was also a factor, so many lay ups and missed wide open shots. The entire teams defense was terrible, I can already tell Rose's D is going to bother me all year. KOQ and Willy really need to work with Noah on keeping good position in pick and roll. KOQ just frustrates me so much I really hope that Willy beats him out for the job. Harden is going to have a monster season. There's going to be a triple double competition between Westbrook and Harden this year.

I loved how much better the Knicks looked after half, Horny actually make in game adjustments! Rose and Jennings both look really quick and actually got into the paint consistently! If Rose plays like this on offense all season it's going to be a fun year. Jennings was a little out of control but it's the first game, new system with new teammates. KP looks like he really improved his shot. I expect a lot higher FG% from him this year. I would like to see some of KP attack the hoop more and some of these post moves he worked on in the next few games.

Melo gets some of the worst offensive foul calls on him it's ridiculous, he gets almost 0 respect from the Ref's. I feel like it's been a while since I've seen Melo play a great game. I know it's just one preseason game and I shouldn't be so quick to judgement but I didn't think that his knee injury would have such lingering effects.

You really like to cram in as much suck as possible, eh?

Sadly, I had no choice in the matter. I work for CBS News and we were live for the debate. When you need the Knicks the most they find a way to let you down.

[dablackprodigy]

"Carmelo not the guy anymore" After one preseason game...

Yeah that is crazy however for the purpose of winning maybe he should act that way. I think the offense should be run through KP and Melo should help spread the court. He's actually a pretty good jump shooter anyway, more than he gives himself credit for with all that posting up wasting time. He's a damn near 40% three point shooter. If I were Melo, that's where Id spend the rest of my career.

So Melo should just become Novak?

Exactly I swear some of you are retards with the knee jerk reactions


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[Johnny Hoops]

Dear god -- he looked like a 7'3" Ray Allen on those buckets.

I thought he looked significantly more solid -- more explosive compared to the stick man he was most of last year.

Did any of you notice his release is much more fluid? Last season his release had a more hesitant feel. Shooting with confidence is a very good thing to have. Once PJax gave him the green light to shoot 3s to his heart's content, you know he was shooting with confidence.

My prediction of 18/10/2.5 blks is going to come true!

I loved his shooting too but I really don't get why he was hedging off of Anderson so much

Anderson got the better of him in the box score

not acceptable

KP is too good for that

Horny made reference that we needed to make better rotations -- which is an indication that certain situations called for KP (as an example) to rotate to help and potentially another Knick to rotate when/if the ball was moved to Anderson. It was definitely a piss poor night but KP showed no indication of not understanding defensive rotations last year so I suspect it was mostly communication breakdowns and some confusion that can be corrected. Didn't help that Rockets hit every shot they threw up out of their rear-ends and refs didn't allow Knicks within 10-feet of Harden once again. Another brutal call on Anderson pump=fake where he launches himself forward into KP to create contact -- the worst call in all of basketball and refs call it wrong 95% of the time.

[3toheadmelo]

Hornacek wasn't lying when he said porzingis shooting is way better

[LameDuck]

We didn't run any pick and pops last year for KP. We start running them now and he makes it rain in the 3rd quarter. How do you defend that?

[AmazingJason]

We didn't run any pick and pops last year for KP. We start running them now and he makes it rain in the 3rd quarter. How do you defend that?

You can't. It's not humanly possible.

So much for the Dirk comparisons.

We have a 7' 3" Ray Allen that can block shots and defend the paint.

[Nazrmohamed]

"Carmelo not the guy anymore" After one preseason game...

Yeah that is crazy however for the purpose of winning maybe he should act that way. I think the offense should be run through KP and Melo should help spread the court. He's actually a pretty good jump shooter anyway, more than he gives himself credit for with all that posting up wasting time. He's a damn near 40% three point shooter. If I were Melo, that's where Id spend the rest of my career.

So Melo should just become Novak?

Nah, I'm not saying that. He's still gonna be Melo, so he'll improvise as needed. I'm sure a guy like him who's been pump faking his whole career and can put it on the floor will figure out other options. But yes, he needs to start from the outside. He's got Rose and Jennings who can get to the rim. He's never had that and now he does, he needs to let them do their thing and let them help him get efficient shots. I never bashed Melo when his PG's couldn't penetrate but when they do he's gotta adapt, especially as he gets older.

[Nazrmohamed]

Yeah that is crazy however for the purpose of winning maybe he should act that way. I think the offense should be run through KP and Melo should help spread the court. He's actually a pretty good jump shooter anyway, more than he gives himself credit for with all that posting up wasting time. He's a damn near 40% three point shooter. If I were Melo, that's where Id spend the rest of my career.

So Melo should just become Novak?

Exactly I swear some of you are retards with the knee jerk reactions


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WTf are you talking about. These were most peoples reactions his entire career, now he's got two attacking PGS at all times and big men who occupy space. Whats (Please Use More Appropriate Word) is having a small forward walking around 10 ft from the basket asking for post ups with Derrick Rose and Jennings on your roster.

[Jeff Van Gully]

We didn't run any pick and pops last year for KP. We start running them now and he makes it rain in the 3rd quarter. How do you defend that?

You can't. It's not humanly possible.

So much for the Dirk comparisons.

We have a 7' 3" Ray Allen that can block shots and defend the paint.

run the floor, catch oops, pass out of the post... kid is special. him, towns, and greek freak are the future.

[K_ick_God]

Hornacek wasn't lying when he said porzingis shooting is way better

Let's hope but it was just one game.

[CJackson]

Hornacek wasn't lying when he said porzingis shooting is way better

Let's hope but it was just one game.

Come on man, KP has always had the golden stroke, it just got better. Guys worry about his FG% from last season as some kind of negative indicator when the reality is the majority of his shots were almost never designed for him and he made do with what he could scramble to get and often with seconds left on the clock. And he was a rookie. Now with facilitation and a year under his belt his shot will be like buttah. Come on

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[GONYK]

Hornacek wasn't lying when he said porzingis shooting is way better

Let's hope but it was just one game.

Come on man, KP has always had the golden stroke, it just got better. Guys worry about his FG% from last season as some kind of negative indicator when the reality is the majority of his shots were almost never designed for him and he made do with what he could scramble to get and often with seconds left on the clock. And he was a rookie. Now with facilitation and a year under his belt his shot will be like buttah. Come on

KP's form was always perfect

[HEZI]

Yeah that is crazy however for the purpose of winning maybe he should act that way. I think the offense should be run through KP and Melo should help spread the court. He's actually a pretty good jump shooter anyway, more than he gives himself credit for with all that posting up wasting time. He's a damn near 40% three point shooter. If I were Melo, that's where Id spend the rest of my career.

So Melo should just become Novak?

Nah, I'm not saying that. He's still gonna be Melo, so he'll improvise as needed. I'm sure a guy like him who's been pump faking his whole career and can put it on the floor will figure out other options. But yes, he needs to start from the outside. He's got Rose and Jennings who can get to the rim. He's never had that and now he does, he needs to let them do their thing and let them help him get efficient shots. I never bashed Melo when his PG's couldn't penetrate but when they do he's gotta adapt, especially as he gets older.

He has to adjust, there is no way anybody can try to sugar coat it. The whole point of getting him help was to make the game easier for him and the rest of the team and not be forced to rely on him as much as in the past. In order for that to work effectively, he has to sacrifice and he has to adjust, simple and plain.

[CJackson]

Let's hope but it was just one game.

Come on man, KP has always had the golden stroke, it just got better. Guys worry about his FG% from last season as some kind of negative indicator when the reality is the majority of his shots were almost never designed for him and he made do with what he could scramble to get and often with seconds left on the clock. And he was a rookie. Now with facilitation and a year under his belt his shot will be like buttah. Come on

KP's form was always perfect

Yeah, look at how his shot last night was falling.

Some sharpshooters snap the net. KP is silky smooth.

KP puts the ball into the net like a magical stork placing a baby on a down pillow.

[Fat]

melo forced to much and once again guys stopped moving once he held the ball. He needs to play in the flow of offense and not worry about getting his, he doesn't have to play hero ball with this team. Hopefully he was just trying to get some shots up and get in a groove but the guy just came off an olympics gold medal he cant be that rusty so i cant even give him that excuse he just looked try hard that first game

[IllmaticHandler]

based on one game there is really no difference in KP shot. There is a little to much Gas going on. The most notable "change" is that he is thinking quicker. I see no change in how he shoots his shots. Like a poster said, his form was always perfect. Its nothing to change. What changes is, how fast he makes up his mind on what he wants to do when he gets the rock.

[Marty McFly]

Hornacek wasn't lying when he said porzingis shooting is way better

Let's hope but it was just one game.

trust the horny. not that it needs to be said, but the man is one of the best shooters of all time. when he was hired, i was most excited about what he could do for porz as a shooter. he was korver's shooting guru in utah.

[CJackson]

based on one game there is really no difference in KP shot. There is a little to much Gas going on. The most notable "change" is that he is thinking quicker. I see no change in how he shoots his shots. Like a poster said, his form was always perfect. Its nothing to change. What changes is, how fast he makes up his mind on what he wants to do when he gets the rock.

He showed no hesitation. That makes him deadly. It really pulls defenses out and will open the floor for our guards to penetrate. That's the yin and the yang of it when you have a wicked shooter from deep and dangerous penetrators working in unison. They feed off each other.

[boomann21]

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