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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#341 » by Pointgod » Sun May 31, 2020 6:19 pm

nedleeds wrote:
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nedleeds wrote:There’s no appetite for it because in Chicago if you kill someone you go to jail. They only care when it’s a cop because cops don’t go to jail. How isn’t that understood?

And always reaching to Chicago and ‘black on black’ crime is weak. 85% of white people are killed by other white people. Are we concerned with white on white crime in this country?


I agree with you. Why don't cops go to jail in obvious cases where evidence merits an arrest warrant like Floyds murder?

Cops don't get immediately arrested for murder in broad daylight like Floyd because they are protected by police unions, which are all Democrat, in Democrat run cities, with Democrat mayors, Democrat chief of police, Democrat judges and Democrat councils. Start by voting out the turds who are in bed together. Ranting about white supremacy might get everyone excited but it is has dick to do with why a murder in broad daylight, on film doesn't result in a swift arrest. It's the same democrat cronies that have been re-elected in these cities for 30+ years. Vote them out.


Yes the Democratic head of the Minnesota police union who *checks notes* spoke at a Trump rally.

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/

In 2007, Kroll also referred to former US Rep. Keith Ellison, who is Muslim and Black and has pushed for criminal justice reforms, as a terrorist, according to a lawsuit filed by now–Police Chief Medaria Arradondo alleging racism within the police department. The lawsuit accused Kroll of wearing a motorcycle jacket with a white-power patch sewed into the fabric, and said he had “a history of discriminatory attitudes and conduct.”


As head of the union, Kroll has pushed for aggressive policing. Last year, Mayor Jacob Frey banned a “warrior-style” training for officers that has been linked with other officer-involved killings, including of Philando Castile in 2016 in Minnesota. As Mother Jones revealed in an investigation, the training promoted a “killology” view of law enforcement that urged officers to be prepared to use more force, not less. Kroll described the mayor’s ban as illegal and vowed to continue making the training free through the union for any officers who were interested. “It’s not about killing, it’s about surviving,” Kroll said of the training at the time.


Yes but keep claiming racism and white supremacy has nothing to do with it.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#342 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun May 31, 2020 6:23 pm

Pointgod wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
Synciere wrote:


I agree with you. Why don't cops go to jail in obvious cases where evidence merits an arrest warrant like Floyds murder?

Cops don't get immediately arrested for murder in broad daylight like Floyd because they are protected by police unions, which are all Democrat, in Democrat run cities, with Democrat mayors, Democrat chief of police, Democrat judges and Democrat councils. Start by voting out the turds who are in bed together. Ranting about white supremacy might get everyone excited but it is has dick to do with why a murder in broad daylight, on film doesn't result in a swift arrest. It's the same democrat cronies that have been re-elected in these cities for 30+ years. Vote them out.


Yes the Democratic head of the Minnesota police union who *checks notes* spoke at a Trump rally.

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2020/05/minneapolis-police-union-president-kroll-george-floyd-racism/

In 2007, Kroll also referred to former US Rep. Keith Ellison, who is Muslim and Black and has pushed for criminal justice reforms, as a terrorist, according to a lawsuit filed by now–Police Chief Medaria Arradondo alleging racism within the police department. The lawsuit accused Kroll of wearing a motorcycle jacket with a white-power patch sewed into the fabric, and said he had “a history of discriminatory attitudes and conduct.”


As head of the union, Kroll has pushed for aggressive policing. Last year, Mayor Jacob Frey banned a “warrior-style” training for officers that has been linked with other officer-involved killings, including of Philando Castile in 2016 in Minnesota. As Mother Jones revealed in an investigation, the training promoted a “killology” view of law enforcement that urged officers to be prepared to use more force, not less. Kroll described the mayor’s ban as illegal and vowed to continue making the training free through the union for any officers who were interested. “It’s not about killing, it’s about surviving,” Kroll said of the training at the time.


Yes but keep claiming racism and white supremacy has nothing to do with it.



1. The police unions

2. The local district attorney's office which works with those cops daily. They work too closely for the DA's office to be objective. They've proven time and time against that the are incapable of doing their job when it comes to their police force.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#343 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun May 31, 2020 6:30 pm

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#344 » by Retired_Doc » Sun May 31, 2020 6:32 pm

Somehow, some way, yes it's possible that this cop beats a murder rap.

But frankly I can't see how that could happen. First of all, weren't there 3 other cops standing right next to the scene? Then why didn't they put Mr. Floyd in the back seat of a police car? What was the point of pinning him down for what appears to be 8 min?

I would be shocked if the DA can answer that one with a straight face.

IF the DA has some info that we obviously don't have, I still cannot see how pinning someone down for 8 min is required/necessary.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#345 » by prolific96 » Sun May 31, 2020 6:35 pm

Retired_Doc wrote:Somehow, some way, yes it's possible that this cop beats a murder rap.

But frankly I can't see how that could happen. First of all, weren't there 3 other cops standing right next to the scene? Then why didn't they put Mr. Floyd in the back seat of a police car? What was the point of pinning him down for what appears to be 8 min?

I would be shocked if the DA can answer that one with a straight face.

IF the DA has some info that we obviously don't have, I still cannot see how pinning someone down for 8 min is required/necessary.



As an ex-New Yorker, you should recall the acquittal of the four officers who shot the unarmed Amado Diallo 40 odd times
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#346 » by Retired_Doc » Sun May 31, 2020 6:37 pm

prolific96 wrote:
Retired_Doc wrote:Somehow, some way, yes it's possible that this cop beats a murder rap.

But frankly I can't see how that could happen. First of all, weren't there 3 other cops standing right next to the scene? Then why didn't they put Mr. Floyd in the back seat of a police car? What was the point of pinning him down for what appears to be 8 min?

I would be shocked if the DA can answer that one with a straight face.

IF the DA has some info that we obviously don't have, I still cannot see how pinning someone down for 8 min is required/necessary.



As an ex-New Yorker, you should recall the acquittal of the four officers who shot the unarmed Amado Diallo 40 odd times


Yes I do recall the story but I can't say I remember all the details.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#347 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun May 31, 2020 6:38 pm

Retired_Doc wrote:Somehow, some way, yes it's possible that this cop beats a murder rap.

But frankly I can't see how that could happen. First of all, weren't there 3 other cops standing right next to the scene? Then why didn't they put Mr. Floyd in the back seat of a police car? What was the point of pinning him down for what appears to be 8 min?

I would be shocked if the DA can answer that one with a straight face.

IF the DA has some info that we obviously don't have, I still cannot see how pinning someone down for 8 min is required/necessary.


If a capable and invested assistant district attorney who believes in the significance of this case is assigned to it, then it's as close to a slam dunk as you're going to get in a criminal trial. If the DA tries to somehow "throw the case," there are just too many legal analysts out there who will pull his card and call him out. That said, nothing surprises me anymore.

I still prefer that a special prosecutor with no connections to that police department be brought in with their own team of lawyers and investigators so that there is even an appearance of any impropriety. That's the smart thing to do. But keep the case where it belongs in the community where all those black folks live. They better not move it to some white, conservative cop land county.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#348 » by Rich Rane » Sun May 31, 2020 6:40 pm

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#349 » by ITGM » Sun May 31, 2020 6:45 pm



Policemen throwing up White Power gang signs.

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#350 » by prolific96 » Sun May 31, 2020 7:01 pm

Retired_Doc wrote:
prolific96 wrote:
Retired_Doc wrote:Somehow, some way, yes it's possible that this cop beats a murder rap.

But frankly I can't see how that could happen. First of all, weren't there 3 other cops standing right next to the scene? Then why didn't they put Mr. Floyd in the back seat of a police car? What was the point of pinning him down for what appears to be 8 min?

I would be shocked if the DA can answer that one with a straight face.

IF the DA has some info that we obviously don't have, I still cannot see how pinning someone down for 8 min is required/necessary.



As an ex-New Yorker, you should recall the acquittal of the four officers who shot the unarmed Amado Diallo 40 odd times


Yes I do recall the story but I can't say I remember all the details.


It's interesting that I recall the facts of a case that occurred when I was 15 years old and not a POC. A little refresher...Early 20s African immigrant with no criminal history retuning home was shot at 41 times (and hit 19 times) in front of his apartment door. The four officers supposedly confused his wallet or keys as a gun and unloaded on him.

The fours officers claimed they couldn't get a fair trial in NYC so asked for it to be located upstate where they were all acquitted with I believe at least some retuning to work.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#351 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun May 31, 2020 7:09 pm

On the Bucks board we can’t even post tweets from Giannis & the Bucks themselves regarding the murder without them being instantly deleted. Embarrassing.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

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Post#357 » by Rich Rane » Sun May 31, 2020 8:42 pm

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#358 » by movingon » Sun May 31, 2020 9:26 pm

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robillionaire wrote:the attempt to blame "outside agitators" and "antifa" and "soros" is a tried and true method to delegitimize the righteous organic anger of the people as well as to divide us up, similar tactics used since the civil rights movement. Also I see some liberals are now trying to blame "Russia" for the protests. As if Russia is responsible for a 400 year racist history finally reaching a boiling point as if we need some kind of foreign interference to be upset. They just cannot allow the narrative that people truly are fed up with a failed system and have an authentic reason to be this angry. The outside agitators are undercover cops or cops provoking and escalating violence

also when is the media going to refer to our people as "freedom fighters" as they would a protester in a country they have a vested interest in destabilizing

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Are you saying you stand with antifa?
Im not trying to bait you or anything but this seems like a weird position to take for somebody who feels a righteous anger... Unless you feel antifa shares that same righteous anger?
I don’t think they feel the same righteous anger, and I feel they do more to delegitimize any movement they introduce themselves into.




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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#359 » by robillionaire » Sun May 31, 2020 9:30 pm

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Blockwatcher wrote:
robillionaire wrote:the attempt to blame "outside agitators" and "antifa" and "soros" is a tried and true method to delegitimize the righteous organic anger of the people as well as to divide us up, similar tactics used since the civil rights movement. Also I see some liberals are now trying to blame "Russia" for the protests. As if Russia is responsible for a 400 year racist history finally reaching a boiling point as if we need some kind of foreign interference to be upset. They just cannot allow the narrative that people truly are fed up with a failed system and have an authentic reason to be this angry. The outside agitators are undercover cops or cops provoking and escalating violence

also when is the media going to refer to our people as "freedom fighters" as they would a protester in a country they have a vested interest in destabilizing

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Are you saying you stand with antifa?
Im not trying to bait you or anything but this seems like a weird position to take for somebody who feels a righteous anger... Unless you feel antifa shares that same righteous anger?
I don’t think they feel the same righteous anger, and I feel they do more to delegitimize any movement they introduce themselves into.




Antifa are just the latest boogeyman.
I'm not buying it.
How do you know who's an anti-fascist?
Any white person wearing black who breaks something?
Watch out for false flags.


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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#360 » by Stannis » Sun May 31, 2020 9:49 pm

I'm in Memphis, I know people who went on protest. It was good up until the very end. Apparently towards the end, police arrived with riot gear and horses, and one said white lives matter more. Then **** hit the fan.

Just rumors of course. So don't take my word for it. But it makes sense considering the protests were fine up until that point.

I'm hearing words that police were looking forward to this (wearing riot gear and use excessive force). Not just here, but in cities all over the US.

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