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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#341 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:26 pm

KnicksGod wrote:It really makes no sense that he's not calling timeouts when you have to just hit FTs to seal the game. He's letting them do stuff because he's just not paying attention to detail. Second time that we made a huge blunder in-boundsing under the basket instead of calling timeout. In the other game, Atlanta at MSG, we also had to get lucky to win it.

It just seems like negligence. Why not use a TO? The halfcourt inbounds is easy.



We were up 2 with the ball, 44 seconds left and he called his last TO, made absolutely no sense and of course came back to bite us in the ass 40 seconds later when we couldn't challenge a play or advance the ball :lol:
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#342 » by mpharris36 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:29 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:It really makes no sense that he's not calling timeouts when you have to just hit FTs to seal the game. He's letting them do stuff because he's just not paying attention to detail. Second time that we made a huge blunder in-boundsing under the basket instead of calling timeout. In the other game, Atlanta at MSG, we also had to get lucky to win it.

It just seems like negligence. Why not use a TO? The halfcourt inbounds is easy.



We were up 2 with the ball, 44 seconds left and he called his last TO, made absolutely no sense and of course came back to bite us in the ass 40 seconds later when we couldn't challenge a play or advance the ball :lol:


44 seconds left...Calls a timeout when the opposition isn't trying to foul and isn't pressing the inbounds (when he only has one left)

7 seconds left...Doesn't call a timeout when the opposition needs to foul and is pressing going for a steal (when he has 2 timeout left)

I'm living in twilight zone :lol:
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#343 » by Guano » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:31 pm

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you can't count on rob. he is only loyal to wins - he would sell his kentucky blueblood if it meant the knicks win. case in point, he is willing to sacrifice kat to defend thibs cause they're winning games right now. he is truly one of the most stoic posters ive seen here - the man has a code and it's not a thibs loyalist - he is a knicks win loyalist.

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You're too far gone to see the truth.

It's already happening. Kat is being misused/underused and rob doesn't gaf cause wins. But eventually it won't be enough and he'll turn on thibs to take the next step. Rob is loyal to one thing - the win column.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#344 » by Gravy » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:31 pm

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Gravy and HEZI are the last diehard Thibs defenders, don't take them seriously.

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I'm not even sure you and HEZI aren't the same person :D

I would never spell my name in all caps, too much work. Spelling KAT all the time is annoying lol
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#345 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:31 pm

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Gravy and HEZI are the last diehard Thibs defenders, don't take them seriously.

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you can't count on rob. he is only loyal to wins - he would sell his kentucky blueblood if it meant the knicks win. case in point, he is willing to sacrifice kat to defend thibs cause they're winning games right now. he is truly one of the most stoic posters ive seen here - the man has a code and it's not a thibs loyalist - he is a knicks win loyalist.



He's one wildcat away from abandoning us, KAT is the last thing holding rob loyal to this team. He's seen IQ, Knox, Jacob and Randle go by the wayside, if KAT is traded and we don't refill the Kentucky cup to balance the loss he's gone. I'm sure he's got his eyes on the Heat or Suns as his refuge, teams with a lot of Wildcats.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#346 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:38 pm

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I said it earlier I absolutely hope this gets blown out of proportion so the clock starts ticking and Thibs seat starts getting warmer. No better person to start the fire than SAS and his loud mouth. Absolutely love it.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#347 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:38 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:It really makes no sense that he's not calling timeouts when you have to just hit FTs to seal the game. He's letting them do stuff because he's just not paying attention to detail. Second time that we made a huge blunder in-boundsing under the basket instead of calling timeout. In the other game, Atlanta at MSG, we also had to get lucky to win it.

It just seems like negligence. Why not use a TO? The halfcourt inbounds is easy.



We were up 2 with the ball, 44 seconds left and he called his last TO, made absolutely no sense and of course came back to bite us in the ass 40 seconds later when we couldn't challenge a play or advance the ball
We couldn't challenge anyway. We won our two challeneges.

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#349 » by Guano » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:46 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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you can't count on rob. he is only loyal to wins - he would sell his kentucky blueblood if it meant the knicks win. case in point, he is willing to sacrifice kat to defend thibs cause they're winning games right now. he is truly one of the most stoic posters ive seen here - the man has a code and it's not a thibs loyalist - he is a knicks win loyalist.



He's one wildcat away from abandoning us, KAT is the last thing holding rob loyal to this team. He's seen IQ, Knox, Jacob and Randle go by the wayside, if KAT is traded and we don't refill the Kentucky cup to balance the loss he's gone. I'm sure he's got his eyes on the Heat or Suns as his refuge, teams with a lot of Wildcats.


nah, that kentucky business is a front. how else can he explain the misuse of kat while being loyal to thibs. it's cause behind it all is wins. that's all he cares about. proven by the fact he was always anti-tank.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#350 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:52 pm

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you can't count on rob. he is only loyal to wins - he would sell his kentucky blueblood if it meant the knicks win. case in point, he is willing to sacrifice kat to defend thibs cause they're winning games right now. he is truly one of the most stoic posters ive seen here - the man has a code and it's not a thibs loyalist - he is a knicks win loyalist.



He's one wildcat away from abandoning us, KAT is the last thing holding rob loyal to this team. He's seen IQ, Knox, Jacob and Randle go by the wayside, if KAT is traded and we don't refill the Kentucky cup to balance the loss he's gone. I'm sure he's got his eyes on the Heat or Suns as his refuge, teams with a lot of Wildcats.


nah, that kentucky business is a front. how else can he explain the misuse of kat while being loyal to thibs. it's cause behind it all is wins. that's all he cares about. proven by the fact he was always anti-tank.




That's easy, he blames Brunson instead of Thibs. You're far too trusting, as a jaded New Yorker I can see a conman a mile away and rob is an excellent one. He's tricked you into believing he's not UK to his core, he will throw everyone and everything under the bus for KAT if it comes down to it, including Thibs. He was only anti-tank because there were no UK players to take in the top 5 after Thibs got here, see how easily you're duped?
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#351 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:55 pm

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It's not terrible but it's a problem. His above the break 3 has tanked this year.
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Are you satisfied with this version of mikal for the investment the knicks gave up and the 4/156? And do you believe with the consistency he has given this year we can be contenders?

I don't dislike mikal but unless he steps up/is used correctly our window is closed. And tbh, I worry that he can't be a true 3rd option on a contender. Though I think maybe that with OG they can split time maybe as the 3rd... idk, I just want more from mikal. Og hoops like a wrestler/football player. So I don't think it's fair to expect him to carry an offensive load.

No and yes. Yes, I firmly believe this team is a contender if upgraded at the center position (that could simply be Mitch back in shape). And no, I’m not really satisfied but would have expected more from Bridges too, but I’m not in here crying, bitching or trading OG on one, Bridges on another and Towns basically every other day. This is a process and I think this team will be twice as good next season if no tweaks are made, and there will be tweaks. So yes, I believe this will be a contending team and that the pieces fit nicely.


i admire your patience and rationality - and hope you're right.

Thanks, I can say the same about you though.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#352 » by Guano » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:57 pm

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He's one wildcat away from abandoning us, KAT is the last thing holding rob loyal to this team. He's seen IQ, Knox, Jacob and Randle go by the wayside, if KAT is traded and we don't refill the Kentucky cup to balance the loss he's gone. I'm sure he's got his eyes on the Heat or Suns as his refuge, teams with a lot of Wildcats.


nah, that kentucky business is a front. how else can he explain the misuse of kat while being loyal to thibs. it's cause behind it all is wins. that's all he cares about. proven by the fact he was always anti-tank.




That's easy, he blames Brunson instead of Thibs. You're far too trusting, as a jaded New Yorker I can see a conman a mile away and rob is an excellent one. He's tricked you into believing he's not UK to his core, he will throw everyone and everything under the bus for KAT if it comes down to it, including Thibs. He was only anti-tank because there were no UK players to take in the top 5 after Thibs got here, see how easily you're duped?

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#353 » by K_ick_God » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:57 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:It really makes no sense that he's not calling timeouts when you have to just hit FTs to seal the game. He's letting them do stuff because he's just not paying attention to detail. Second time that we made a huge blunder in-boundsing under the basket instead of calling timeout. In the other game, Atlanta at MSG, we also had to get lucky to win it.

It just seems like negligence. Why not use a TO? The halfcourt inbounds is easy.



We were up 2 with the ball, 44 seconds left and he called his last TO, made absolutely no sense and of course came back to bite us in the ass 40 seconds later when we couldn't challenge a play or advance the ball :lol:


Oh my mistake then. I didn't realize we had none.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#354 » by HEZI » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:59 pm

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It's mikalkalina or whatever you call him that somehow randomly remembered how to play basketball now that he got actual offense run through him


That’s what a good coach does. He finds a way to get the best out of whoever is available to play. Is Mikalikina now ok playing 41 minutes? Wasn’t tired anymore? Huh, interesting how that works when you have the green light to shoot more. All of a sudden legs are fresh and you can play 48 minutes no problem.



I know you didn't watch the game but it went into overtime. But I'm not here to go back and forth who didn't watch the game because your clearly trolling :lol:


We are all trolling. OT or not the minutes are what they are. It looks more like excuses than anything else
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#355 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:00 pm

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nah, that kentucky business is a front. how else can he explain the misuse of kat while being loyal to thibs. it's cause behind it all is wins. that's all he cares about. proven by the fact he was always anti-tank.




That's easy, he blames Brunson instead of Thibs. You're far too trusting, as a jaded New Yorker I can see a conman a mile away and rob is an excellent one. He's tricked you into believing he's not UK to his core, he will throw everyone and everything under the bus for KAT if it comes down to it, including Thibs. He was only anti-tank because there were no UK players to take in the top 5 after Thibs got here, see how easily you're duped?

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If rob didn't have some morals he'd be a multi-millionaire right now and on the FBI's most wanted list as a scammer/fraudster, he's elite.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#356 » by mpharris36 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:00 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:It really makes no sense that he's not calling timeouts when you have to just hit FTs to seal the game. He's letting them do stuff because he's just not paying attention to detail. Second time that we made a huge blunder in-boundsing under the basket instead of calling timeout. In the other game, Atlanta at MSG, we also had to get lucky to win it.

It just seems like negligence. Why not use a TO? The halfcourt inbounds is easy.



We were up 2 with the ball, 44 seconds left and he called his last TO, made absolutely no sense and of course came back to bite us in the ass 40 seconds later when we couldn't challenge a play or advance the ball :lol:


Oh my mistake then. I didn't realize we had none.



your talking about two different scenarios

He shouldn't have called a TO at the end of regulation with 44 seconds...there were multiple possessions left and we should have held the last timeout.

He should have called a TO in OT to advance the ball with 7 seconds left (he had 2 timeouts left). This is the one your are referring to and are correct.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#357 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:03 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:Is it starting to look like Mikal and JB not a great fit?




They're a fit, but we need better sets to run them together. The Knicks are literally the best PnR team in the NBA (1.02 points per possession) but we don't use the play with any real frequency, or involve the players in it that should be good. Mikal is in the 80th percentile as a PnR ball handler but it takes an injury to Brunson for his play frequency to increase, we go from all Brunson iso in the 4th to last night being all Mikal screens in the 4th. There was a damning stat 2 weeks ago that said KAT only had 10 threes off a screen all season, and just look at last night and remember how few screens were set by KAT for Mikal.


We are where the Cavs were last year when Donovan dominated the ball and they had a clunky offense because the coach couldn't incorporate anyone outside of "your turn, my turn" basketball.

… and their backcourt looked awful to a point that we thought we could snatch Mitchell. They were a middling team and don’t forget that they haven’t made many roster changes before the season.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#358 » by mpharris36 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:03 pm

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That’s what a good coach does. He finds a way to get the best out of whoever is available to play. Is Mikalikina now ok playing 41 minutes? Wasn’t tired anymore? Huh, interesting how that works when you have the green light to shoot more. All of a sudden legs are fresh and you can play 48 minutes no problem.



I know you didn't watch the game but it went into overtime. But I'm not here to go back and forth who didn't watch the game because your clearly trolling :lol:


We are all trolling. OT or not the minutes are what they are. It looks more like excuses than anything else


Hey I'm not the one calling Mikal "mr softie" when he's arguably the iron man in the NBA. When you have guys resting on b2b or managing nagging injuries...mikal never sits. He also has never complained in any stop previously when he played every single game as well.

Glad the national media is picking up on this nonsense.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#359 » by mpharris36 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:04 pm

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It’s the beginning of the end for Thibs Folkssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I said it earlier I absolutely hope this gets blown out of proportion so the clock starts ticking and Thibs seat starts getting warmer. No better person to start the fire than SAS and his loud mouth. Absolutely love it.
And when you get Rick Brunson as head coach I hope you'rr happy never forget how MSG works.

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Portland 

Post#360 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:05 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:Is it starting to look like Mikal and JB not a great fit?




They're a fit, but we need better sets to run them together. The Knicks are literally the best PnR team in the NBA (1.02 points per possession) but we don't use the play with any real frequency, or involve the players in it that should be good. Mikal is in the 80th percentile as a PnR ball handler but it takes an injury to Brunson for his play frequency to increase, we go from all Brunson iso in the 4th to last night being all Mikal screens in the 4th. There was a damning stat 2 weeks ago that said KAT only had 10 threes off a screen all season, and just look at last night and remember how few screens were set by KAT for Mikal.


We are where the Cavs were last year when Donovan dominated the ball and they had a clunky offense because the coach couldn't incorporate anyone outside of "your turn, my turn" basketball.

… and their backcourt looked awful to a point that we thought we could snatch Mitchell. They were a middling team and don’t forget that they haven’t made many roster changes before the season.




They were 18th offensively last season with the same exact starting 5, they're first this year.

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