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Post#341 » by LookToShoot » Sat May 24, 2025 5:16 am

Who said they didn’t want to trade for Giannis again? Some of you get carried away with the moment instead of looking at the glaring flaws with this team.

OG and the Nova bromance needs to be broken up.
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Post#342 » by spree2kawhi » Sat May 24, 2025 8:17 am

LookToShoot wrote:Who said they didn’t want to trade for Giannis again? Some of you get carried away with the moment instead of looking at the glaring flaws with this team.

OG and the Nova bromance needs to be broken up.

I want Giannis, he’d instantly be our best player (in history) and he’s also one of the most likable guys in the league. It’s just… I would prefer getting him for free :lol: I love the team we have.
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Post#343 » by WargamesX » Sat May 24, 2025 11:01 am

Unless Giannis makes a gigantic stink he isn’t going to NY. Also people are completely missing the problem of the roster. As nice as KAT is, the Knicks need depth. If the plan is to keep Thibs it has to be a trade for Depth players Thibs would play. They also need to add a potential secondary scorer Thibs would play.
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Post#344 » by Handledatruth » Sat May 24, 2025 11:15 am

R-DAWG wrote:This would take some creativity from Cleveland getting below the 2nd apron by moving off DeAndre Hunter as well as including Isaac Okoro to a 3rd team to make the trade legal -

OG Anunoby for Jarrett Allen and Max Strus.

Cleveland breaks up the Mobley/Allen thing and adds an elite wing defender who can also spade the floor.

NY turns Anunoby into a rim protector to play next to KAT and a shooter next to Brunson

Brunson-Strus-Bridges-Towns-Allen
McBride-Hart-Robinson
Taxpayer MLE to round out a 9 man rotation


I know OG is kind of folding against Indy, but you want to trade him for two guys who folded against Indy?
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Post#345 » by R-DAWG » Sat May 24, 2025 11:21 am

Handledatruth wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:This would take some creativity from Cleveland getting below the 2nd apron by moving off DeAndre Hunter as well as including Isaac Okoro to a 3rd team to make the trade legal -

OG Anunoby for Jarrett Allen and Max Strus.

Cleveland breaks up the Mobley/Allen thing and adds an elite wing defender who can also spade the floor.

NY turns Anunoby into a rim protector to play next to KAT and a shooter next to Brunson

Brunson-Strus-Bridges-Towns-Allen
McBride-Hart-Robinson
Taxpayer MLE to round out a 9 man rotation


I know OG is kind of folding against Indy, but you want to trade him for two guys who folded against Indy?


It’s trading OG for depth that fills other needs on the roster. Would I prefer to trade Josh for a starting C and traditional SG - sure. I just don’t see a path to doing so.
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Post#346 » by Handledatruth » Sat May 24, 2025 11:32 am

R-DAWG wrote:
Handledatruth wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:This would take some creativity from Cleveland getting below the 2nd apron by moving off DeAndre Hunter as well as including Isaac Okoro to a 3rd team to make the trade legal -

OG Anunoby for Jarrett Allen and Max Strus.

Cleveland breaks up the Mobley/Allen thing and adds an elite wing defender who can also spade the floor.

NY turns Anunoby into a rim protector to play next to KAT and a shooter next to Brunson

Brunson-Strus-Bridges-Towns-Allen
McBride-Hart-Robinson
Taxpayer MLE to round out a 9 man rotation


I know OG is kind of folding against Indy, but you want to trade him for two guys who folded against Indy?


It’s trading OG for depth that fills other needs on the roster. Would I prefer to trade Josh for a starting C and traditional SG - sure. I just don’t see a path to doing so.


I understand, but I wouldn’t trade to compliment a KAT and Brunson duo. I would trade to compliment a Brunson and OG duo. I would be looking around to see who could use a floor spacer like KAT to fill that depth.
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Post#347 » by WargamesX » Sat May 24, 2025 11:34 am

Handledatruth wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
Handledatruth wrote:
I know OG is kind of folding against Indy, but you want to trade him for two guys who folded against Indy?


It’s trading OG for depth that fills other needs on the roster. Would I prefer to trade Josh for a starting C and traditional SG - sure. I just don’t see a path to doing so.


I understand, but I wouldn’t trade to compliment a KAT and Brunson duo. I would trade to compliment a Brunson and OG duo. I would be looking around to see who could use a floor spacer like KAT to fill that depth.

I don’t think OG can fill that second option role.
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Post#348 » by Handledatruth » Sat May 24, 2025 12:18 pm

WargamesX wrote:
Handledatruth wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
It’s trading OG for depth that fills other needs on the roster. Would I prefer to trade Josh for a starting C and traditional SG - sure. I just don’t see a path to doing so.


I understand, but I wouldn’t trade to compliment a KAT and Brunson duo. I would trade to compliment a Brunson and OG duo. I would be looking around to see who could use a floor spacer like KAT to fill that depth.

I don’t think OG can fill that second option role.


Hali is doing it with Siakam. Shai is doing it with Williams? Chet? Time to rethink what it means to be an option. Put guys around Brunson that compliment him offensively and defensively. Bridges and OG are fine but KAT makes Brunson lineups less effective.
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Post#349 » by R-DAWG » Sat May 24, 2025 12:28 pm

Handledatruth wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
Handledatruth wrote:
I understand, but I wouldn’t trade to compliment a KAT and Brunson duo. I would trade to compliment a Brunson and OG duo. I would be looking around to see who could use a floor spacer like KAT to fill that depth.

I don’t think OG can fill that second option role.


Hali is doing it with Siakam. Shai is doing it with Williams? Chet? Time to rethink what it means to be an option. Put guys around Brunson that compliment him offensively and defensively. Bridges and OG are fine but KAT makes Brunson lineups less effective.


Both guys you mentioned are better offensive options than Bridges and Anunoby.
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Post#350 » by Handledatruth » Sat May 24, 2025 1:09 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
Handledatruth wrote:
WargamesX wrote:I don’t think OG can fill that second option role.


Hali is doing it with Siakam. Shai is doing it with Williams? Chet? Time to rethink what it means to be an option. Put guys around Brunson that compliment him offensively and defensively. Bridges and OG are fine but KAT makes Brunson lineups less effective.


Both guys you mentioned are better offensive options than Bridges and Anunoby.


I think OG has proven he can score being used as more than a catch and shoot guy. But the point is that he needs to be complimentary to what Brunson brings to the team. OG is complimentary on both the offense and defensive end. KAT is not.
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Post#351 » by LookToShoot » Sat May 24, 2025 1:14 pm

WargamesX wrote:Unless Giannis makes a gigantic stink he isn’t going to NY. Also people are completely missing the problem of the roster. As nice as KAT is, the Knicks need depth. If the plan is to keep Thibs it has to be a trade for Depth players Thibs would play. They also need to add a potential secondary scorer Thibs would play.


Everybody on the Knicks is touchable, you’re thinking that they’re not. I don’t care about the starting 5, they can be traded for depth.
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Post#352 » by WargamesX » Sat May 24, 2025 1:27 pm

I hate to post it, but the math adds up, and it’s the type of deal I think they would have to get for KAT if trading KAT is the decision they make because they don’t turn it around this series. Ideally they turn it around and they don’t have to trade him…. But

Knicks trade: KAT, Huk
Knicks get: Herb Jones, RJ Barrett, Yvissi Missi, Bos 2027 2nd rounder

Pelicans trade: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, Yvissi Missi, 2026 Indy draft pick
Pelicans get: KAT, HUk,

Raptors trade: RJ Barrett,
Raptors get: KCP, Wendell Carter, Cory Joseph, Indiana 2026 first rounder (owned by Pelicans)

Magic trade: KCP, Wendell Carter, Cory Joseph, Bos 2027 2nd rounder
Magic get: CJ McCollum

Knicks do it for depth, RJ replaces Hart in the starting lineup and takes on KATs role as second option, Missi becomes Mitch’s back up, Herb jones adds another great player to the bench, they also get a 2nd rounder, and due to the cut salary get the non tax payer MLE.

Raptors do it to maximize on RJ value, they get better fitting piece around Barnes/Ingram/IQ in KCP, Carter is a good back up center, and a late first rounder.

Magic do it because they get the shooter they are rumored to want in CJ and streamline the roster.

Pelicans do it for a center who fits around Zion AND for a player who is talented enough Zion is no longer their best player and now tradeable

After this trade none of the teams are in the 1 st apron, and outside of the Magic none of the team are in the tax either meaning the Knicks can use the Non taxpayer MLE. Knicks use that money on Tyus Jones

Knicks roster:
Brunson/Tyus Jones
RJ/Mcbride
Bridges/Hart
OG/Herb Jones
Mitch/Missi

Knicks fix the bench, RJ isn’t KAT on scoring but he could be a legit second scorer, Missi behind Mitch means we have 48 minutes of defensive centers in at all times. A bench of McBride, Hart, and Jones give the Knicks plus defenders that can be slotted in with the starters. Tyus is a lesser Brunson but he can run an offense.
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Post#353 » by R-DAWG » Sat May 24, 2025 1:28 pm

Handledatruth wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
Handledatruth wrote:
Hali is doing it with Siakam. Shai is doing it with Williams? Chet? Time to rethink what it means to be an option. Put guys around Brunson that compliment him offensively and defensively. Bridges and OG are fine but KAT makes Brunson lineups less effective.


Both guys you mentioned are better offensive options than Bridges and Anunoby.


I think OG has proven he can score being used as more than a catch and shoot guy. But the point is that he needs to be complimentary to what Brunson brings to the team. OG is complimentary on both the offense and defensive end. KAT is not.


Are we watching the same playoff games? OG hasn’t been consistent offensively since game 1 against Boston.
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Post#354 » by WargamesX » Sat May 24, 2025 1:28 pm

LookToShoot wrote:
WargamesX wrote:Unless Giannis makes a gigantic stink he isn’t going to NY. Also people are completely missing the problem of the roster. As nice as KAT is, the Knicks need depth. If the plan is to keep Thibs it has to be a trade for Depth players Thibs would play. They also need to add a potential secondary scorer Thibs would play.


Everybody on the Knicks is touchable, you’re thinking that they’re not. I don’t care about the starting 5, they can be traded for depth.

As you can see in my prior post I don’t think that, I just think it’s a tough trade. I just posted a 4 team trade that moves KAT. Lowkey I think it would have to be a multi team trade to move him.
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Post#355 » by LookToShoot » Sat May 24, 2025 1:53 pm

WargamesX wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:
WargamesX wrote:Unless Giannis makes a gigantic stink he isn’t going to NY. Also people are completely missing the problem of the roster. As nice as KAT is, the Knicks need depth. If the plan is to keep Thibs it has to be a trade for Depth players Thibs would play. They also need to add a potential secondary scorer Thibs would play.


Everybody on the Knicks is touchable, you’re thinking that they’re not. I don’t care about the starting 5, they can be traded for depth.

As you can see in my prior post I don’t think that, I just think it’s a tough trade. I just posted a 4 team trade that moves KAT. Lowkey I think it would have to be a multi team trade to move him.


I’d keep KAT if meant playing him next to Giannis. I’d get rid of the “Nova Bros”.

It’s not a surprise that the Pacers and Thunder are up 2-0. Their teams are just as balanced as their payroll. They’re not spending $100 million on three role players/false stars.
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Post#356 » by WargamesX » Sat May 24, 2025 2:03 pm

LookToShoot wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:
Everybody on the Knicks is touchable, you’re thinking that they’re not. I don’t care about the starting 5, they can be traded for depth.

As you can see in my prior post I don’t think that, I just think it’s a tough trade. I just posted a 4 team trade that moves KAT. Lowkey I think it would have to be a multi team trade to move him.


I’d keep KAT if meant playing him next to Giannis. I’d get rid of the “Nova Bros”.

It’s not a surprise that the Pacers and Thunder are up 2-0. Their teams are just as balanced as their payroll. They’re not spending $100 million on three role players/false stars.

That to me isn’t realistic. Mitch low-key has looked like the best defensive center in the league these playoffs and he can hide KAT. I don’t think Giannis can either.
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Post#357 » by R-DAWG » Sat May 24, 2025 3:06 pm

LookToShoot wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:
Everybody on the Knicks is touchable, you’re thinking that they’re not. I don’t care about the starting 5, they can be traded for depth.

As you can see in my prior post I don’t think that, I just think it’s a tough trade. I just posted a 4 team trade that moves KAT. Lowkey I think it would have to be a multi team trade to move him.


I’d keep KAT if meant playing him next to Giannis. I’d get rid of the “Nova Bros”.

It’s not a surprise that the Pacers and Thunder are up 2-0. Their teams are just as balanced as their payroll. They’re not spending $100 million on three role players/false stars.


Overpaying role players is always risky. It can work, but you need efficiencies in other places on the roster. The Knicks really don’t have that since KAT’s deal offsets Brunson’s discount and Hart/OG offset Bridges being slightly below market value.

We should appreciate the season that we are having, but looking forward we have a flawed roster with a bloated payroll and no draft capital.
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Post#358 » by KnixinSix » Sat May 24, 2025 3:28 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:Who said they didn’t want to trade for Giannis again? Some of you get carried away with the moment instead of looking at the glaring flaws with this team.

OG and the Nova bromance needs to be broken up.

I want Giannis, he’d instantly be our best player (in history) and he’s also one of the most likable guys in the league. It’s just… I would prefer getting him for free :lol: I love the team we have.


i would 100% trade KAT and McBride for him but I feel for that kind of offer it would have to be something where Giannis specifically asks to come to play here.
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Post#359 » by Richard4444 » Sat May 24, 2025 3:52 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:Who said they didn’t want to trade for Giannis again? Some of you get carried away with the moment instead of looking at the glaring flaws with this team.

OG and the Nova bromance needs to be broken up.

I want Giannis, he’d instantly be our best player (in history) and he’s also one of the most likable guys in the league. It’s just… I would prefer getting him for free :lol: I love the team we have.


i would 100% trade KAT and McBride for him but I feel for that kind of offer it would have to be something where Giannis specifically asks to come to play here.


Giannis is locked for 2 years. The Bucks will not accept a much lower offer to make him happy.
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Post#360 » by LookToShoot » Sat May 24, 2025 4:18 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:
WargamesX wrote:As you can see in my prior post I don’t think that, I just think it’s a tough trade. I just posted a 4 team trade that moves KAT. Lowkey I think it would have to be a multi team trade to move him.


I’d keep KAT if meant playing him next to Giannis. I’d get rid of the “Nova Bros”.

It’s not a surprise that the Pacers and Thunder are up 2-0. Their teams are just as balanced as their payroll. They’re not spending $100 million on three role players/false stars.


Overpaying role players is always risky. It can work, but you need efficiencies in other places on the roster. The Knicks really don’t have that since KAT’s deal offsets Brunson’s discount and Hart/OG offset Bridges being slightly below market value.

We should appreciate the season that we are having, but looking forward we have a flawed roster with a bloated payroll and no draft capital.


Pacers’ best perimeter defenders, Nembhard and Nesmith, are making a combined $29 million next season. And they’re on their second contracts. OG and Bridges are making $65 million combined for similar duties and production.

I think what Brunson is getting paid is his value, I don’t consider it a discount. He was smart to take the money because he has limitations.

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