FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[Nyce_1]

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA
Magic tried to move him to New York, but his $2.8 million owed this season hit their cap too hard. Steve Kyler added,
JPM @Jopatmc1967
@stevekylerNBA What is Mo Harkless' trade value?

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA
Shane Larkin in one scenario -- Quincy Acy in another -- Knicks wouldn't take the salary. Steve Kyler added,
JPM @Jopatmc1967
@stevekylerNBA What were they wanting from the Knicks?

really surprised you guys wouldn't take Moe for Acy or Larkin.

[bigfnjoe96]

really surprised you guys wouldn't take Moe for Acy or Larkin.

We didn't need any more SF's.... We needed BIGS

[Rasho Brezec]

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA
Magic tried to move him to New York, but his $2.8 million owed this season hit their cap too hard. Steve Kyler added,
JPM @Jopatmc1967
@stevekylerNBA What is Mo Harkless' trade value?

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA
Shane Larkin in one scenario -- Quincy Acy in another -- Knicks wouldn't take the salary. Steve Kyler added,
JPM @Jopatmc1967
@stevekylerNBA What were they wanting from the Knicks?

really surprised you guys wouldn't take Moe for Acy or Larkin.

We're idiots, we'd rather have Calderon's worthless ass take up 7M in capspace than a player with potential and a team option take up 3M.

And before mpharris comes, yes, Harkless has more potential than Larkin and clown Acy combined.

[swisscheeseD]

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA
Magic tried to move him to New York, but his $2.8 million owed this season hit their cap too hard. Steve Kyler added,
JPM @Jopatmc1967
@stevekylerNBA What is Mo Harkless' trade value?

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA
Shane Larkin in one scenario -- Quincy Acy in another -- Knicks wouldn't take the salary. Steve Kyler added,
JPM @Jopatmc1967
@stevekylerNBA What were they wanting from the Knicks?

really surprised you guys wouldn't take Moe for Acy or Larkin.

We're idiots, we'd rather have Calderon's worthless ass take up 7M in capspace than a player with potential and a team option take up 3M.

And before mpharris comes, yes, Harkless has more potential than Larkin and clown Acy combined.

If mpharris comes in to say anything, he's going to be talking up Cleanthony Early and Thanasis Antetokounmpo, so there wouldn't be a need for Harkless.

Me personally, I liked Harkless coming out..but he just plays uninspired basketball. Then again, he looks to be more of a system player, and Orlando was a lot of freelancing on the court.

[mpharris36]

^^^ that is exactly what I am going to come in and say. We have two young SF's with solid role player potential just like Harkless has.

It has nothing to do with Acy and Larkin. They both suck, harkless of course has more potential. But now we are going to pay 3 unknown SF's. Harkless 3 million eats into the cap space we have. No point in getting a redundant player that has yet to show anything in the NBA.

the fact the magic were basically willing to give him up for free shows how much the just wanted him gone with his contract. I would rather have the 3 million this offseason to distribute on better players.

[92Knicksfan93]

Yeah you guys are bugging if you want a 33yr broken Wade, Lebron left because he knew wade was done, we need guys in their prime to help Melo not guys on their way out.

Seem like you guys want what old Knicks used to do waste big money on washed up names, I thought we got passed that way of thinking?

Since when did Dwayne Wade become an option this summer? I haven't heard Wade linked to the Knicks since summer 2010.

Any Knicks fan who wants Wade or suggests him at this point in his career shouldn't be taken seriously.

[92Knicksfan93]

Pau isn't only bad at defending 4s, he's a bad defender in general. He's lost a huge amount of quickness since his Lakers days. We would need an athletic 4 to play next to him whenever he's on the court basically (except when he's with Marc because we can't play 6 on 5).

Yeah, we'd be a good scoring team...but I still think the defense is a huge question mark

I said we would be top 4, but going further than that with the lineup you suggested is going to be difficult.

While I understand where you are coming from and it is a fair concern. I still think we can be a solid defense because Marc is a pretty elite defender and from the small sample size of Galloway and the scouting report of Mudiay we should have some really good perimeter defense.

Now I know the bulls had Butler and Rose but if the bulls can have a really good defense with a frontline of Dunleavy, Gasol, and Noah I think the knicks can play at least decent defense with Melo, Gasol, and Gasol.

They honestly would really just have to play decent defense because the offense would be something beautiful to watch.

And like you said you could also bring in a moble 4. Someone like Brandon Bass maybe as a vet you could bring off the bench and provide better defense at the 4 position if you really needed it.

You don't win in this league unless your bigs can rim protect and rebound. Pau Gasol is not a rim protector, and Marc Gasol is not a big time rebounder. Melo is an adequate rebounder on a good day at the 3. So basically with this Spanish Melo front line we'll get killed on the glass and we'll get meh rim protection, but hey we would have an offense that would make D'Antoni and Nelson wet their pants. I also wouldn't trust the small sample size of Langston Galloway to make any conclusions about him being a viable starter when we're trying to be a playoff team.

[92Knicksfan93]

Knicks need a guy like Koufos or RoLo at Center to play alongside Monroe who needs to play his natural position at Power Forward.

MONROE IS NOT A RIM PROTECTING CENTER.

Phish is most likely going to keep Melo at the 3 position. Melo injury and age isn't that serious and he will still be able to stay with most of these small forwards. All that rhetoric about him not being able to defend and keep up with these wings is hyperbole.

MONROE IS NOT A POWER FOWARD

MONROE ISNOT a rim protector.

[ORANGEandBLUE]

We should get Fournier from Orlando if they want to trade.

[Rasho Brezec]

I'd rather have 7M to spend on better players and not have bad trades limit my future moves. Or older players with less potential playing the same position as the player offered in the trade.

[riter]

Yeah you guys are bugging if you want a 33yr broken Wade, Lebron left because he knew wade was done, we need guys in their prime to help Melo not guys on their way out.

Seem like you guys want what old Knicks used to do waste big money on washed up names, I thought we got passed that way of thinking?

Since when did Dwayne Wade become an option this summer? I haven't heard Wade linked to the Knicks since summer 2010.

Any Knicks fan who wants Wade or suggests him at this point in his career shouldn't be taken seriously.

I think you're wrong.

Anyhoo...
We have to start off with a ECF team. LMA/Melo I believe is a reasonable core. Name me a player that we have a shot at other than Wade that has the talent and production to help a core of LMA/Melo beat Lebron.
...Exactly.
Wade is a has been if you expect him to play 82 games /35min and carry this team. But don't you think that a healthy,rested Wade...say 60 games...can be the #1 option during the playoffs for a championship team? I do.

Now , if you think winning a chip with Melo in the next 3 years has a 0% chance of happening, and you want to sign Middleton so we can be a really good playoff team with a younger, rising player---I get it--and I will support Phil in this regard.

But if you want to go after a chip with Melo in the next 2 to 3 years...give me another guard in free agency that you think can do it and I'll be on board...especially if he's younger and cheaper.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Melo and Wade with a bare bones roster isn't going anywhere in the East. That would be such a wasted use of our cap space. Wade could completely break down any minute now, but some of y'all still want the next Tmac

[Governor Dudley]

Bad Ideas ranked by badness

1. Signing Wades corpse
2. Trading the pick in order to build around Melo
3. Picking a player based on their ability to play with Melo, rather than their overall potential.
4. Ty Lawson

[Nyce_1]

We should get Fournier from Orlando if they want to trade.

we don't want to trade him.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Well damn

I've played a lot of FIFA football manager... formations and strategies are my passion... same for the bball... Sorry for the lack of modesty, but I have knowledge about the playcalls, strategies and playbooks more than Shammgod has posts in his life ... The bad thing is, in a forum where only 10 posters at best know what schemes are out there, it's useless to talk about more detailed talks and in depth analysis... Even in game threads, instead of analytics we see anal-tits most of the time ("lucky charms")

PS: I follow this forum just to read and learn new things from those max 10 high IQ guys... not from the haters and nor from the homeless depressive loners to whom forums and idle talks are their virtual drugs to get away from their miserable lives

Whose the max 10? I only have 9

God shamgod

Harthrone wingo

Greenhughes

Moocow

Rasho

Me

Mr perfect

Iberham

Offense(without the tank)

Pau isn't only bad at defending 4s, he's a bad defender in general. He's lost a huge amount of quickness since his Lakers days. We would need an athletic 4 to play next to him whenever he's on the court basically (except when he's with Marc because we can't play 6 on 5).

Yeah, we'd be a good scoring team...but I still think the defense is a huge question mark

I said we would be top 4, but going further than that with the lineup you suggested is going to be difficult.

While I understand where you are coming from and it is a fair concern. I still think we can be a solid defense because Marc is a pretty elite defender and from the small sample size of Galloway and the scouting report of Mudiay we should have some really good perimeter defense.

Now I know the bulls had Butler and Rose but if the bulls can have a really good defense with a frontline of Dunleavy, Gasol, and Noah I think the knicks can play at least decent defense with Melo, Gasol, and Gasol.

They honestly would really just have to play decent defense because the offense would be something beautiful to watch.

And like you said you could also bring in a moble 4. Someone like Brandon Bass maybe as a vet you could bring off the bench and provide better defense at the 4 position if you really needed it.

You don't win in this league unless your bigs can rim protect and rebound. Pau Gasol is not a rim protector, and Marc Gasol is not a big time rebounder. Melo is an adequate rebounder on a good day at the 3. So basically with this Spanish Melo front line we'll get killed on the glass and we'll get meh rim protection, but hey we would have an offense that would make D'Antoni and Nelson wet their pants. I also wouldn't trust the small sample size of Langston Galloway to make any conclusions about him being a viable starter when we're trying to be a playoff team.

That offense wouldn't be what D'Antoni/Nelson wanted at all. Any team with Pau as a starting 4 and Marc as a 5 is not going to be an uptempo outside-in team (what Nelson/D'Antoni played). They'd be a half court team. *Don't want Pau*

Melo and Wade with a bare bones roster isn't going anywhere in the East. That would be such a wasted use of our cap space. Wade could completely break down any minute now, but some of y'all still want the next Tmac

This makes me sad because T-Mac was one of my favorite players growing up. **** Wade and his flops, no floor stretching ability / declining ability off ball due to declining athleticism (hurting his slashing), and his walking back on defense ass.

I do wonder, though...

[newyorker4ever]

Yeah you guys are bugging if you want a 33yr broken Wade, Lebron left because he knew wade was done, we need guys in their prime to help Melo not guys on their way out.

Seem like you guys want what old Knicks used to do waste big money on washed up names, I thought we got passed that way of thinking?

Since when did Dwayne Wade become an option this summer? I haven't heard Wade linked to the Knicks since summer 2010.

Any Knicks fan who wants Wade or suggests him at this point in his career shouldn't be taken seriously.

I think you're wrong.

Anyhoo...
We have to start off with a ECF team. LMA/Melo I believe is a reasonable core. Name me a player that we have a shot at other than [/b[b]]Wade that has the talent and production to help a core of LMA/Melo [/b[b]]beat Lebron.
...Exactly.
Wade is a has been if you expect him to play 82 games /35min and carry this team. But don't you think that a healthy,rested Wade...say 60 games...can be the #1 option during the playoffs for a championship team? I do.

Now , if you think winning a chip with Melo in the next 3 years has a 0% chance of happening, and you want to sign Middleton so we can be a really good playoff team with a younger, rising player---I get it--and I will support Phil in this regard.

But if you want to go after a chip with Melo in the next 2 to 3 years...give me another guard in free agency that you think can do it and I'll be on board...especially if he's younger and cheaper.

Who said we have a shot at Wade?? Rumors from a writer?? LOL

[Besart19]

You think Andrew Buynum could stay healthy and play for us next year?!

That would fix many other holes with the remaining free cap space... And Ray Allen could be back, too!!

[riter]

Who said we have a shot at Wade?? Rumors from a writer?? LOL

If Wade really wants 3yrs/20mil--there are not alot of teams that will do it.

But, yeah, it's a big if.

[riter]

You think Andrew Buynum could stay healthy and play for us next year?!

That would fix many other holes with the remaining free cap space... And Ray Allen could be back, too!!

I can't find any updates on Bynum. Either he's through, which is the likely case---
or Phil told him to shut up and hide.

[Jstarks3]

besart has somr of the worst ideas ive ever seen on this board.