Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

[SuperflyKnick]

As much as I want Felton gone I'm glad the kicks didn't overpay for him... We need to keep our assets going forward... They should start with getting rid of woody and his staff, then then making some minor deals to at least salvage the season and not give Denver the chance of a top 3 pk

[ca1]

What do you guys think about SHump for Waiters? At the very least we can get some scoreing from the backcourt (and he is young) bc JR is wayy too up or down... SHump's shot is nonexistent... Felton sucks

It gives us a boost in the two guard spot and if its a straight up deal we arent trading away any picks...it also gives us a player who can beat someone off the dribble.. if the Raptors are asking for the moon in lowry (Felton+Pick+mwp+ shump or th jr) I would rather get waiters.

[moocow007]

What do you guys think about SHump for Waiters? At the very least we can get some scoreing from the backcourt (and he is young) bc JR is wayy too up or down... SHump's shot is nonexistent... Felton sucks

It gives us a boost in the two guard spot and if its a straight up deal we arent trading away any picks...it also gives us a player who can beat someone off the dribble.. if the Raptors are asking for the moon in lowry (Felton+Pick+mwp+ shump or th jr) I would rather get waiters.

Would make more sense to move Hardaway for Waiters.

[ca1]

What do you guys think about SHump for Waiters? At the very least we can get some scoreing from the backcourt (and he is young) bc JR is wayy too up or down... SHump's shot is nonexistent... Felton sucks

It gives us a boost in the two guard spot and if its a straight up deal we arent trading away any picks...it also gives us a player who can beat someone off the dribble.. if the Raptors are asking for the moon in lowry (Felton+Pick+mwp+ shump or th jr) I would rather get waiters.

Would make more sense to move Hardaway for Waiters.

I wouldnt bc I like THjr potential more than Shumps at this point

Shump has had 2 knee surguries and in 2015 is going to want a contract... Keep Th JR .. he is athletic can score and dosnt look like a head case which equal a ton of potential.

[Mars_Blackmon]

trade Felton/MWP/C.Smith/2018 1st for Evan Turner

Prigioni/Murry
Shumpert/Hardaway
Turner/Smith
Anthony/Martin
Chandler/Bargnani

[moocow007]

If there was only a way to get Andre Miller? He's making $5 million this year and then partially guaranteed at $4.625 million next season. He's the perfect type of floor general (that the Knicks could realistically get) for this team and his contract keeps them in line with 2015 while not leaving them in a situation to have to resign him and impact 2015 plans.

[fabio]

at this point, I think the only reasonable path to get rid of these constant **** ups is to bite the bullet, sell anything for first round picks and tank like mofos, even if it takes this and next year, this process is pretty much over and is time to rebuild from scratch, I don't think any cosmetic change will do any good

[ORANGEandBLUE]

If there was only a way to get Andre Miller? He's making $5 million this year and then partially guaranteed at $4.625 million next season. He's the perfect type of floor general (that the Knicks could realistically get) for this team and his contract keeps them in line with 2015 while not leaving them in a situation to have to resign him and impact 2015 plans.

We'd have to give them JR or Felton, who at this point are both albatross contracts, meaning we'd have to throw in THJ. Might be worth it though, cause let's face it we will have to give up assets at some point to clear those terrible contracts in time for 2015.

[pcbothwel]

Knicks out: Carmelo Anthony
Knicks in: Beal, Porter Jr. Webster, Vesely + 1st

Then you have a couple of trade chips in Shump and TH Jr. that you can use to try to get a point guard.

Fire Woody, hire Byron Scott.

Tank next year and then try to sign a max free agent in 2015.

PG?
Beal
Porter
Love
Chandler

2015 - 2016 Knicks

Wiz fan here... If this is what you think the Melo's trade value is than your going to be sadly disappointed. I wouldnt make that trade even without Beal, but its mostly because Melo's iso game is a horrible fit for the Wiz (and most teams which is the problem).
The fact is, I really only see one way the Knicks can become contendars in the next 3-5 years. The good news is you really only have to deal with rest of this year and next of being bad. The key is trading melo. If you can take on a contract through next year I think you can get some valuable pieces in a quick rebuild. This combined with allowing STAT and Barniani to expire would create a lot of flexability. Anything you can get for Chandler would be a bonus too.
The issue is, I am not sure what team would trade for Melo for half a season(Everyone knows he wants to test FA). Maybe the Suns? Detroit?

[SuperflyKnick]

Knicks out: Carmelo Anthony
Knicks in: Beal, Porter Jr. Webster, Vesely + 1st

Then you have a couple of trade chips in Shump and TH Jr. that you can use to try to get a point guard.

Fire Woody, hire Byron Scott.

Tank next year and then try to sign a max free agent in 2015.

PG?
Beal
Porter
Love
Chandler

2015 - 2016 Knicks

Wiz fan here... If this is what you think the Melo's trade value is than your going to be sadly disappointed. I wouldnt make that trade even without Beal, but its mostly because Melo's iso game is a horrible fit for the Wiz (and most teams which is the problem).
The fact is, I really only see one way the Knicks can become contendars in the next 3-5 years. The good news is you really only have to deal with rest of this year and next of being bad. The key is trading melo. If you can take on a contract through next year I think you can get some valuable pieces in a quick rebuild. This combined with allowing STAT and Barniani to expire would create a lot of flexability. Anything you can get for Chandler would be a bonus too.
The issue is, I am not sure what team would trade for Melo for half a season(Everyone knows he wants to test FA). Maybe the Suns? Detroit?

You noe the coach runs those ISo plays for Carmelo right and wen u have a team as bad as his where else are you goin to get PTs... Stop the hate with Carmelo

[SuperflyKnick]

On side note wud me Memphis do bargnani/jr 4 randolf ..... They are looking for a stretch 4 and a scoring guard off the bench ... We get rebounding and inside scoring

[moocow007]

If there was only a way to get Andre Miller? He's making $5 million this year and then partially guaranteed at $4.625 million next season. He's the perfect type of floor general (that the Knicks could realistically get) for this team and his contract keeps them in line with 2015 while not leaving them in a situation to have to resign him and impact 2015 plans.

We'd have to give them JR or Felton, who at this point are both albatross contracts, meaning we'd have to throw in THJ. Might be worth it though, cause let's face it we will have to give up assets at some point to clear those terrible contracts in time for 2015.

Yep. Maybe Lil Nate has worn out his welcome and we can get both Miller and Robinson in that package?

[moocow007]

Knicks out: Carmelo Anthony
Knicks in: Beal, Porter Jr. Webster, Vesely + 1st

Then you have a couple of trade chips in Shump and TH Jr. that you can use to try to get a point guard.

Fire Woody, hire Byron Scott.

Tank next year and then try to sign a max free agent in 2015.

PG?
Beal
Porter
Love
Chandler

2015 - 2016 Knicks

Wiz fan here... If this is what you think the Melo's trade value is than your going to be sadly disappointed. I wouldnt make that trade even without Beal, but its mostly because Melo's iso game is a horrible fit for the Wiz (and most teams which is the problem).
The fact is, I really only see one way the Knicks can become contendars in the next 3-5 years. The good news is you really only have to deal with rest of this year and next of being bad. The key is trading melo. If you can take on a contract through next year I think you can get some valuable pieces in a quick rebuild. This combined with allowing STAT and Barniani to expire would create a lot of flexability. Anything you can get for Chandler would be a bonus too.
The issue is, I am not sure what team would trade for Melo for half a season(Everyone knows he wants to test FA). Maybe the Suns? Detroit?

Or a team that he actually would be interested in resigning with that otherwise don't have the capspace to sign him outright or that he insists trade for him (see Denver to NY) so he can get as much as possible from that team acquiring the Bird Rights? You know...

[DowNY]

On side note wud me Memphis do bargnani/jr 4 randolf ..... They are looking for a stretch 4 and a scoring guard off the bench ... We get rebounding and inside scoring

Grizzlies get - Pau Gasol, JR Smith, Shawne Williams, Steve Blake & 2018 1st rd pick (NYK)

Lakers get - Raymond Felton, Zach Randolph & Tyson Chandler

Knicks get - Mike Conley & Steve Nash

[R-DAWG]

Trying to get creative here. As we know word is out that the Celtics would be willing to offer Kris Humphries expiring contract and Gerald Wallace for Amare Stoudemire. Stoudemire's contract is one year shorter than Wallaces. I think the Knicks should look at opportunities where they send Humphries to a 3rd team in order to bring back guard help. If you include Shumpert in this deal you can take just north of $18 million in salaries.

Would a team like Pheonix be willing to trade Dragic for Shumpert if no other players were involved?
What would the Thunder be willing to give up to get out of the final year of Kendrick Perkins contract? What about for Shumpert?
Could we get into the mix for Aaron Afflalo, we would be able to take on Glen Davis contract.

The point is that we can't count on Amare Stoudemire to give us consistent minutes anymore. It's sad but it's reality. Wallace, although not the player he was still plays. And he does things the right way, can be a glue guy and a leader. Something this team lacks. He's not a great shooter but doesn't need the ball to make an impact. And remember, he was the only Brooklyn Net that showed up to game 7 last year.

This might be something to think about. For the right player it might be worth it.

Is there a way to get both Dragic and Afflalo?

[Rasho Brezec]

No. You keep Humphries and send Shumpert along with Wallace to Bobcats for Ben Gordon.

[br7knicks]

Trying to get creative here. As we know word is out that the Celtics would be willing to offer Kris Humphries expiring contract and Gerald Wallace for Amare Stoudemire. Stoudemire's contract is one year shorter than Wallaces. I think the Knicks should look at opportunities where they send Humphries to a 3rd team in order to bring back guard help. If you include Shumpert in this deal you can take just north of $18 million in salaries.

Would a team like Pheonix be willing to trade Dragic for Shumpert if no other players were involved?
What would the Thunder be willing to give up to get out of the final year of Kendrick Perkins contract? What about for Shumpert?
Could we get into the mix for Aaron Afflalo, we would be able to take on Glen Davis contract.

The point is that we can't count on Amare Stoudemire to give us consistent minutes anymore. It's sad but it's reality. Wallace, although not the player he was still plays. And he does things the right way, can be a glue guy and a leader. Something this team lacks. He's not a great shooter but doesn't need the ball to make an impact. And remember, he was the only Brooklyn Net that showed up to game 7 last year.

This might be something to think about. For the right player it might be worth it.

Is there a way to get both Dragic and Afflalo?

before it got locked, i was going to write how that wouldn't be a bad idea.


but what team would want humphries.

what about a team like the spurs? they don't have blair, their dirty work, rebounder guy. splitter is still hurt, right?

[R-DAWG]

No. You keep Humphries and send Shumpert along with Wallace to Bobcats for Ben Gordon.

what does that accomplish? Unless you have a follow up deal to clear Bargnani and Chandler.

[R-DAWG]

Trying to get creative here. As we know word is out that the Celtics would be willing to offer Kris Humphries expiring contract and Gerald Wallace for Amare Stoudemire. Stoudemire's contract is one year shorter than Wallaces. I think the Knicks should look at opportunities where they send Humphries to a 3rd team in order to bring back guard help. If you include Shumpert in this deal you can take just north of $18 million in salaries.

Would a team like Pheonix be willing to trade Dragic for Shumpert if no other players were involved?
What would the Thunder be willing to give up to get out of the final year of Kendrick Perkins contract? What about for Shumpert?
Could we get into the mix for Aaron Afflalo, we would be able to take on Glen Davis contract.

The point is that we can't count on Amare Stoudemire to give us consistent minutes anymore. It's sad but it's reality. Wallace, although not the player he was still plays. And he does things the right way, can be a glue guy and a leader. Something this team lacks. He's not a great shooter but doesn't need the ball to make an impact. And remember, he was the only Brooklyn Net that showed up to game 7 last year.

This might be something to think about. For the right player it might be worth it.

Is there a way to get both Dragic and Afflalo?

before it got locked, i was going to write how that wouldn't be a bad idea.


but what team would want humphries.

what about a team like the spurs? they don't have blair, their dirty work, rebounder guy. splitter is still hurt, right?

he's an expiring contract. The team that gets him could buy him out and another team, potentially the Knicks, can sign him for the minimum.

[br7knicks]

Trying to get creative here. As we know word is out that the Celtics would be willing to offer Kris Humphries expiring contract and Gerald Wallace for Amare Stoudemire. Stoudemire's contract is one year shorter than Wallaces. I think the Knicks should look at opportunities where they send Humphries to a 3rd team in order to bring back guard help. If you include Shumpert in this deal you can take just north of $18 million in salaries.

Would a team like Pheonix be willing to trade Dragic for Shumpert if no other players were involved?
What would the Thunder be willing to give up to get out of the final year of Kendrick Perkins contract? What about for Shumpert?
Could we get into the mix for Aaron Afflalo, we would be able to take on Glen Davis contract.

The point is that we can't count on Amare Stoudemire to give us consistent minutes anymore. It's sad but it's reality. Wallace, although not the player he was still plays. And he does things the right way, can be a glue guy and a leader. Something this team lacks. He's not a great shooter but doesn't need the ball to make an impact. And remember, he was the only Brooklyn Net that showed up to game 7 last year.

This might be something to think about. For the right player it might be worth it.

Is there a way to get both Dragic and Afflalo?

before it got locked, i was going to write how that wouldn't be a bad idea.


but what team would want humphries.

what about a team like the spurs? they don't have blair, their dirty work, rebounder guy. splitter is still hurt, right?

he's an expiring contract. The team that gets him could buy him out and another team, potentially the Knicks, can sign him for the minimum.

well, if he's expiring, just send him to the grizzlies. they're always trying to shed contracts.


bring back conley


grizz in: humphries
grizz out: prince, conley

knicks in: prince, conley, wallace
knicks out: STAT

celtics in: STAT
celtics out: wallace, humphries


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