All Lin talk here

[Thugger HBC]

Similar to the other thread why Durant is better than Melo?

Only this time the older player wins for right now.

Dragic even has playoff success under his belt, and please don't let me touch that 85%.

I don't really care about the Melo v. Durant thread.

HBC you spent hours defending Lin with little video snippets and such after he got hurt and now you go out of your way (because I assume you have better things to do) to talk badly about him. You just can't let it ride?

I don't get it... And if I'm Lin I'm still not playing in the Miami series with millions of dollars at stake especially knowing now that Dolan wanted Lin to take less money. That series was a lost cause... surely the little d-leaguer couldn't have done anything about it.

Get out... get some sun.. go shoot some jumpers... grab some coconut juice when you're done to rehydrate.

How am I talking about Lin? By saying Dragic is better?

And feel free to hunt my posts down, I absolutely had an issue to Lin not playing, go look.. feel free.

But I've also supported the kid and absolutely loved Linsanity.

So here's the difference...

You think Lin is immune to criticism, I get on everyone when warranted.

[Tron Carter]

What are you even rambling on about? I'm sorry Goran Dragic is better then Lin there's nothing I can do about it.

The fact that you're comparing a little no name D-leaguer to Dragic speaks much more for Lin than it does for Dragic.. you get that right? Or is that too complicated for you to understand?

So because Lin was in the D-League and not much was known about him he doesn't deserve to be compared to other second tier guards?

Your argument makes no sense. Goran Dragic isn't this first round projected allstar that had all the spotlight on himself he fought through the ranks from the bench just like Lin did.

This all stems from the fact that you're frustrated I put up factual evidence on how Goran Dragic is better, yet you're trying to prove a point by diminishing Lin. He's not a little no name D-leaguer anymore the comparison is fair.

[ibraheim718]

Similar to the other thread why Durant is better than Melo?

Only this time the older player wins for right now.

Dragic even has playoff success under his belt, and please don't let me touch that 85%.

I don't really care about the Melo v. Durant thread.

HBC you spent hours defending Lin with little video snippets and such after he got hurt and now you go out of your way (because I assume you have better things to do) to talk badly about him. You just can't let it ride?

I don't get it... And if I'm Lin I'm still not playing in the Miami series with millions of dollars at stake especially knowing now that Dolan wanted Lin to take less money. That series was a lost cause... surely the little d-leaguer couldn't have done anything about it.

Get out... get some sun.. go shoot some jumpers... grab some coconut juice when you're done to rehydrate.

How am I talking about Lin? By saying Dragic is better?

And feel free to hunt my posts down, I absolutely had an issue to Lin not playing, go look.. feel free.

But I've also supported the kid and absolutely loved Linsanity.

So here's the difference...

You think Lin is immune to criticism, I get on everyone when warranted.

How is he immune to criticism when I've criticized him myself?

The 85% thingy wasn't a pretext for a cheap shot about some idea that came straight off of a NYC radio station or one of NYC's fine scholarly periodicals?

Do you want me to go find the 85% thread and we can visit what each of us said about the situation when it was actually going down.. before it hit the tabloids? If what you said then is consistent with what you were about to say today then all is good. I know what I said.. what did you say.. play or don't' play?

[ibraheim718]

What are you even rambling on about? I'm sorry Goran Dragic is better then Lin there's nothing I can do about it.

The fact that you're comparing a little no name D-leaguer to Dragic speaks much more for Lin than it does for Dragic.. you get that right? Or is that too complicated for you to understand?

So because Lin was in the D-League and not much was known about him he doesn't deserve to be compared to other second tier guards?

Your argument makes no sense. Goran Dragic isn't this first round projected allstar that had all the spotlight on himself he fought through the ranks from the bench just like Lin did.

This all stems from the fact that you're frustrated I put up factual evidence on how Goran Dragic is better, yet you're trying to prove a point by diminishing Lin. He's not a little no name D-leaguer anymore the comparison is fair.

No... I think I specifically said it's not quite fair to compare a guy who is going into his 7th year to a guy who is going to his 2nd year.

[NBA Fan 1234]

No... I think I specifically said it's not quite fair to compare a guy who is going into his 7th year to a guy who is going to his 2nd year.

I don't get what's so hard to understand about this lol.

NBA experience means A LOT...5 years of experience does a lot for a player's development.

[Tron Carter]

What are you talking about? Goran was drafted in '08 and didn't even become a starter until this past year.

[ibraheim718]

Re: Rushing back Lin

Unread postby Thugger HBC on Wed May 02, 2012 12:37 pm
No, not worth it, for the fifth time.

[NBA Fan 1234]

What are you talking about? Goran was drafted in '08 and didn't even become a starter until this pass year.

That doesn't mean he is not more experienced than Lin is. You still get the same player development coaches, strength training coaches, practices, etc. Dragic also spent a few years learning from Nash...do you know how helpful that would be to ANY point guard?

Even though he just became a starter this year, he has A LOT more experience than Lin does.

[ibraheim718]

Re: Possible Jeremy Lin Return

Unread postby Thugger HBC on Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:33 pm
Don't do this to yourself, Lin won't be on the court this season.

Even in the second round, I would not risk it.

[ibraheim718]

You want to touch that 85% thing now HBC?

[ibraheim718]

Paco I miss the old screen name... I'm going to the golf course.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Paco I miss the old screen name... I'm going to the golf course.

lol sorry, dude. Had to change it...it's not even my real name .

[Thugger HBC]

You want to touch that 85% thing now HBC?

sure will bud, since that thread was BEFORE the 85% one, which is what i said in my post....



Re: ESPN: Lin is unwilling to play with knee at 85%

Unread postby Thugger HBC on Wed May 09, 2012 4:47 pm
I'm actually surprised so many are with Lin not playing.


Notice the response right behind......



Re: ESPN: Lin is unwilling to play with knee at 85%

Unread postby djkinetic on Wed May 09, 2012 4:50 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:I'm actually surprised so many are with Lin not playing.

Down 3-1 why would you risk further more severe injury...which could hamper the team next season and beyond...I guess those knee injuries to Shumpert, Davis, or Rose didnt happen...SMH

no need to quote the rest but there was a flurry in there.

[Manitoba]

What's silly about it? Right now Dragic is better.

Dragic was only slightly better than Lin last season, despite having much more NBA experience. Since Lin is younger and has been improving at an exponential rate, I expect him to pass Dragic very quickly, possibly by the middle of next season.

[Thugger HBC]

What's silly about it? Right now Dragic is better.

Dragic was only slightly better than Lin last season, despite having much more NBA experience. Since Lin is younger and has been improving at an exponential rate, I expect him to pass Dragic very quickly, possibly by the middle of next season.

He may, but we're talking about right now.

[ibraheim718]

You want to touch that 85% thing now HBC?

sure will bud, since that thread was BEFORE the 85% one, which is what i said in my post....



Re: ESPN: Lin is unwilling to play with knee at 85%

Unread postby Thugger HBC on Wed May 09, 2012 4:47 pm
I'm actually surprised so many are with Lin not playing.


Notice the response right behind......



Re: ESPN: Lin is unwilling to play with knee at 85%

Unread postby djkinetic on Wed May 09, 2012 4:50 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:I'm actually surprised so many are with Lin not playing.

Down 3-1 why would you risk further more severe injury...which could hamper the team next season and beyond...I guess those knee injuries to Shumpert, Davis, or Rose didnt happen...SMH

no need to quote the rest but there was a flurry in there.

So 85% healthy (which is a totally subjective number.. how does someone come to the conclusion they're 85% healthy?) after knee surgery is where you draw the line and think a guy should play?

[Thugger HBC]

Here's another 85% slew of nuggets......

Re: Lin clarifies 85% comment

Unread postby Thugger HBC on Sat May 12, 2012 9:47 pm
Actually it sounds like Lin is trying to spin that shyt.

He can cut some but can't jump yet is 85%?

I didn't think he'd help and wanted him to get 100%, but that clear up sounds pretty much like back pedalling.

Re: Lin clarifies 85% comment

Unread postby Thugger HBC on Sun May 13, 2012 5:22 am

noto12ious wrote:so lin is still missing 1-2 feet of his jumping ability due to injury, and all these clowns still wanted him to play in game 5?


Nope. Most didn't want him to play even if he were cleared to do so, because most likely it would not have changed the outcome of the series.

Once he threw out a number on his health, and that's when perception changed.

Even he recognized he should not have said it, which prompted him to clarify.

A simple "I'm still on schedule" would have been sufficient.

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Re: Lin clarifies 85% comment

Unread postby biglove44 on Sat May 12, 2012 10:15 pm

Pharmcat wrote:

Thugger HBC wrote:

Sky_Knicks wrote:His clarification should have been : "STFU to all the people doubting me"


Or he could have remained silent himself, and not mentioned the 85%.



exactly



Yep, similar to the media asking Stat about Nash.


Yeah I hated that 85% comment, and the clarification really made me look at Lin differently.

But Istill supported the kid, but did not like the comment at all.

[postcall]

Why are you guys wasting so much time arguing about 2 marginal point guards?

[Thugger HBC]

So 85% healthy (which is a totally subjective number.. how does someone come to the conclusion they're 85% healthy?) after knee surgery is where you draw the line and think a guy should play?

Hey I'm going by what he said, and I'm showing you of such.

If he was done, then don't say a word and be done.

I had no issue to him sitting out before the playoffs began, but once Lin threw the number out the perception changed.

Now that that's established, next topic.

[ibraheim718]

Here's another 85% slew of nuggets......

Re: Lin clarifies 85% comment

Unread postby Thugger HBC on Sat May 12, 2012 9:47 pm
Actually it sounds like Lin is trying to spin that shyt.

He can cut some but can't jump yet is 85%?

I didn't think he'd help and wanted him to get 100%, but that clear up sounds pretty much like back pedalling.

Re: Lin clarifies 85% comment

Unread postby Thugger HBC on Sun May 13, 2012 5:22 am

noto12ious wrote:so lin is still missing 1-2 feet of his jumping ability due to injury, and all these clowns still wanted him to play in game 5?


Nope. Most didn't want him to play even if he were cleared to do so, because most likely it would not have changed the outcome of the series.

Once he threw out a number on his health, and that's when perception changed.

Even he recognized he should not have said it, which prompted him to clarify.

A simple "I'm still on schedule" would have been sufficient.

Sent from my Asus Transformer Prime TF-201



Re: Lin clarifies 85% comment

Unread postby biglove44 on Sat May 12, 2012 10:15 pm

Pharmcat wrote:

Thugger HBC wrote:

Sky_Knicks wrote:His clarification should have been : "STFU to all the people doubting me"


Or he could have remained silent himself, and not mentioned the 85%.



exactly



Yep, similar to the media asking Stat about Nash.


Yeah I hated that 85% comment, and the clarification really made me look at Lin differently.

But Istill supported the kid, but did not like the comment at all.

Your perception of a guy you don't know changed when he tried to put a number on how healthy he was when asked? What if he would've said 75%... would that have changed your mind?