Meat wrote:justin12140 wrote:see, this is why people don't like knick fans. yall can just be so stupid, no offense. this kid shot over 40% in 45 games last year and even better during the playoffs. were not talking about Landry Fields who changed his jumper. Were talking about a kid, on a **** team, thats in a **** situation, thats trying to trade him is in a slump. He'll be fine and I'd bet money hell be doing absolutely fine in 5 years
tell me more about how his swag and flat top makes him a untradeable asset
yeah, thats exactly the point I was trying to get across /s. Shump is already as good as gone in my opinion. There is no way he ever resigns with this team again, not after all the **** hes taking. Doesn't mean I don't respect his game though. Knick fans are the biggest "What have you done for me lately" type of people and its annoying af.
darkdrone wrote:Wtf? Don't insult me and then add "no offense"...its pathetic. Either insult me or don't insult me at all, don't try the slick crap with me.
I am a huge Shump fan but the kid had waaaaaay too many all 0 stat lines this season. Shall I remind you that his handles might have even regressed from last season? He often looks lost when in the rotation and his defense is just not good anymore.
Oh right. Just cause he is on a bad teams that excuses his bad play. You want me to name players who are on crappy teams but are having decent seasons? That's a losers excuse as to why he isn't playing well. He is the only player who I seen, on this team take such a massive fall in production that it is disheartening.
He will be fine in 5 years? Right, the other 29 teams are going to be running to get Shump with the way he is playing. Say we traded him for Lowry, you really think the Raptors are going to let Shump have minutes over Derozen and Ross? He would get close to nothing because he is a below average shooting guard. Pick any team and tell me that this isn't the most ideal situation. I will say it again, if he doesn't act right he could be like Fields and be out of the league or bench cheerleader.
Lol I was kind of addressing you and adressing everyone else at once, but your first post was reactionary as hell. First of all, hes been struggling. He hasn't shot the ball well all year I'll admit that, but there is a clear drop is performance after that first Orlando game on 12/6. Its called a slump and in the last 2 years we've seen tons of our players slump. Anthony has had LOOONG stretches (especially last year) of playing like straight ass, Chandler didn't even look like a starting C last year outside of those 3 20+ rebound games, smith is only JUST starting to recover from the crazy slump that started w/ the Jason Terry elbow, Kidd had about 2 or 3 1-month long streches last year where he couldn't hit a 3 (the only thing he did). Jr, Tyson, and Kidd have all played equal to or worse than shumpert right now. He'll recover and be fine. I've never heard of a player shooting so well (40%+) and never regaining his shot.
His handles are not worse than last season. No way. He's just trying to use his handles more to get around his defender which he has struggled to do his entire career. I could probably count on one hand how many times Shump actually drove on his defender all the way to the hole last year instead of taking that pullup long 2. He was almost afraid of it. Now he kind of put in a difficult situation in that defenders would rather him try to drive than take the 3 (even if he is in a slump) which is a much weaker part of his game than his shooting. He will improve, and even if he doesn't there is still a place for him in this league. and IMO he could improve this aspect of his game a lot if we ever put him in P&R situations (but oddly enough him & Hardaway are like the only players we never put in these situations. idk about this year, but last year Danny Green was awful whenever he put the ball on the ground. He was pretty much the stereotypical 3-D player and he's found a place in this league.
And yes, other teams would love to take him. Thats why they were trying to trade for him. First team that comes to my mind that would love to take him is the Miami Heat. They have an aging SG position w/ Allen and Wade. Shump is a strong, athletic player that has a high motor. Hes also shown the ability to shoot well over 40%+ from 3 point range. I'm sure their are others too, but I dont feel like looking at 28 teams rosters to know where he would be welcomed/effective. Trust me though, just because you forgot how well he can play (remember 6 months ago when he was our best playoff performer?) doesn't mean GMs around the league did. Besides, do you really believe that there are 60 better SGs than Shumpert now or there will be in 5 years so that he won't even play in a 2nd string capacity? lol please
