Melo Thread #????? - Update PG 58 - 4-way scenarios explored (In Georgia?)

captvict · Post #361 » by **captvict** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:35 pm

Really. How bad is Ryan Anderson and his contract?

NOOB77 · Post #362 » by **NOOB77** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:36 pm

captvict wrote:Really. How bad is Ryan Anderson and his contract?

THjr bad

Post #363 » by **duetta** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:36 pm

Billy Goat wrote:If the Knicks goal is to just get rid of him, the buyout is the best choice for the Knicks. Melo isn't going to net you anything of value here.

Not having his stretched salary on our cap for years to come is something of value.

Buying him out is insanity. He wasn't the primary problem with the team last season.

Fury · Post #364 » by **Fury** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:36 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:
captvict wrote:Really. How bad is Ryan Anderson and his contract?

THjr bad

Anderson makes even more than Hardaway!

malik959 · Post #365 » by **malik959** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:38 pm

Would Love this trade:
New York gets - Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard, All-Farouq Aminu, Ed Davis
Houston gets - Carmelo Anthony
Portland gets - Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza, Joakin Noah, Top 10 protected Houston 1st

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6907810

NOOB77 · Post #366 » by **NOOB77** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:38 pm

Fury wrote:
NYKfan77 wrote:
captvict wrote:Really. How bad is Ryan Anderson and his contract?

THjr bad

Anderson makes even more than Hardaway!

In the sense they are both decent players who do some things well on the court and other things not so much. Both are over paid but not so overpaid you go that is a terrible horrible contract. He is a piece that can help people not like lets so Noah which is terrible contract. The Anderson and THjr contracts are just bad not terrible. They are players that can still be productive.

Knicksrule2k4 · Post #367 » by **Knicksrule2k4** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:38 pm

The damage is done. I'd say there is no chance Melo is on this team.

stuporman · Post #368 » by **stuporman** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:38 pm

Greenie wrote:
stuporman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:there were people who actually left this site over lin....it would be kind of like leaving this site over not re-signing langston galloway

To be fair many of those posters came to the site because of Lin, remember the influx of Lin themed handles rolling through for those few weeks? Also Lin is better than Gallow, Lin has been a pretty productive even with the bouncing around from team to team he's done but more to his popularity is he is a one of a kind cultural icon.

Lin is better than LG.
Still, that's low expectations for an icon.

Yes, because Asian-American basketball players who were 4 year college players from Harvard have high expectations on them, right? :lol:

NOOB77 · Post #369 » by **NOOB77** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:39 pm

malik959 wrote:Would Love this trade:
New York gets - Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard, All-Farouq Aminu, Ed Davis
Houston gets - Carmelo Anthony
Portland gets - Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza, Joakin Noah, Top 10 protected Houston 1st

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6907810

That is the single worst trade I have seen for the Knicks congrats.

god shammgod · Post #370 » by **god shammgod** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:39 pm

ryan anderson is a souped up novak and he's owed 60 mill over the next 3

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #371 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:39 pm

Fury wrote:
NYKfan77 wrote:
captvict wrote:Really. How bad is Ryan Anderson and his contract?

THjr bad

Anderson makes even more than Hardaway!

Doesn't play any defense (unlike Hardaway), contributes nothing other than volume scoring (albeit, he's got solid efficiency), is a horribly rebounder, would take minutes away from our young bigs...and his contract doesn't end for a while. Under no circumstance should we be taking back his contract.

I'm part of the camp that THJr will be worth it - good scorer, solid efficiency, he's a good defender, and he's still young who has improved since his last rookie year. Overpaid? Slightly...but it's the going rate...and he's better than guys who got similar contracts.

god shammgod · Post #372 » by **god shammgod** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:40 pm

NYKfan77 wrote:
malik959 wrote:Would Love this trade:
New York gets - Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard, All-Farouq Aminu, Ed Davis
Houston gets - Carmelo Anthony
Portland gets - Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza, Joakin Noah, Top 10 protected Houston 1st

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6907810

That is the single worst trade I have seen for the Knicks congrats.

sh*ts disgusting b

frothbrain · Post #373 » by **frothbrain** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:40 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
frothbrain wrote:Does anyone seriously believe a trade in which the only significant outgoing player for Houston is Ryan Anderson will return the Knicks anything of value? Mills needs to let this stew until Morey is willing to actually include a valued player such as Eric Gordon.

If the Knicks goal is to just get rid of him, the buyout is the best choice for the Knicks. Melo isn't going to net you anything of value here.

The well is already poisoned with Mills back in full command...might as well bring Melo back and embrace full MSG chaos like the mid 2000's.

There's a rumored Cavs offer of Frye,Shump,RJ,Osman.
The cap savings from that alone would be better than a buyout.

Even if that offer is not actually on the table,
the Knicks have nothing to gain from a buyout at this point.

DowNY · Post #374 » by **DowNY** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:40 pm

Fury wrote:
NYKfan77 wrote:
captvict wrote:Really. How bad is Ryan Anderson and his contract?

THjr bad

Anderson makes even more than Hardaway!

Makes more than Timmy, older than Timmy by years & I don't even think he plays at a high level anymore - so his play isn't even as good as Timmy's.

HarthorneWingo · Post #375 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:41 pm

Greenie wrote:
stuporman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:there were people who actually left this site over lin....it would be kind of like leaving this site over not re-signing langston galloway

To be fair many of those posters came to the site because of Lin, remember the influx of Lin themed handles rolling through for those few weeks? Also Lin is better than Gallow, Lin has been a pretty productive even with the bouncing around from team to team he's done but more to his popularity is he is a one of a kind cultural icon.

Lin is better than LG.
Still, that's low expectations for an icon.

You don't say? :lol:

I love LG, but Lin is much better than him. Please.

Billy Goat · Post #376 » by **Billy Goat** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:42 pm

duetta wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:If the Knicks goal is to just get rid of him, the buyout is the best choice for the Knicks. Melo isn't going to net you anything of value here.

Not having his stretched salary on our cap for years to come is something of value.

Buying him out is insanity. He wasn't the primary problem with the team last season.

I'm not advocating it. It's just better than trading him for other bad contacts.

At this point they should just bring him back and embrace being a clown show.

HarthorneWingo · Post #377 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:42 pm

malik959 wrote:Would Love this trade:
New York gets - Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard, All-Farouq Aminu, Ed Davis
Houston gets - Carmelo Anthony
Portland gets - Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza, Joakin Noah, Top 10 protected Houston 1st

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6907810

Malik, wtf?

god shammgod · Post #378 » by **god shammgod** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:42 pm

noah and ryan anderson together would be the worst collection of contracts that any team in the nba has with the exception of portland. who for some reason people think are gonna take ryan anderson. none of this makes sense. welcome to realgm.

HarthorneWingo · Post #379 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:43 pm

frothbrain wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
frothbrain wrote:Does anyone seriously believe a trade in which the only significant outgoing player for Houston is Ryan Anderson will return the Knicks anything of value? Mills needs to let this stew until Morey is willing to actually include a valued player such as Eric Gordon.

If the Knicks goal is to just get rid of him, the buyout is the best choice for the Knicks. Melo isn't going to net you anything of value here.

The well is already poisoned with Mills back in full command...might as well bring Melo back and embrace full MSG chaos like the mid 2000's.

There's a rumored Cavs offer of Frye,Shump,RJ,Osman.
The cap savings from that alone would be better than a buyout.

Even if that offer is not actually on the table,
the Knicks have nothing to gain from a buyout at this point.

I wonder if we could flip any of those pieces

frothbrain · Post #380 » by **frothbrain** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:43 pm

malik959 wrote:Would Love this trade:
New York gets - Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard, All-Farouq Aminu, Ed Davis
Houston gets - Carmelo Anthony
Portland gets - Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza, Joakin Noah, Top 10 protected Houston 1st

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6907810

The Knicks dont need to trade Noah. And they sure as hell don't need to trade him while getting back almost the same amount of dead cap space.
They likely wont be competing in 2018's FA pool. They would be better off stretching his last 2 years than taking back that garbage if they really needed cap space in the summer of 2018.