Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

[awy]

yea he said he only really started to play basketball in 9th grade, and he really got himself on the map in 10th grade. he was just running around dunking on people in high school.

[Marty McFly]

I’m just blown away by the athletes today. How did this even happen? We’re seeing 7 footers that run like guards. Jump out of the gym. Can handle the ball and shoot with range. Mega wing spans. It’s like there’s been a genetic phenomenon. Wtf is going on?


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[Knicks Byke]

maybe he can be a young camby lite.

[Jmpasq]

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=22617189

Another pre-draft interview with Mitchell where he's a bit more articulate.

I usually care about that stuff, but in this case I really don't. He wasn't the 9th pick, he was a 2nd rounder. I don't expect him to be the leader of the franchise or anything close to it. He's got potential to really outproduce his draft slot, that's all you can really expect from a 2nd round pick.

What I am excited about from that clip is his shooting. I have been trying to find videos of him making a damn shot and all I see is dunks. That's great. We know he can dunk. I needed to see him knock down a shot and that video shows him doing it (all the way out to the 3pt line too). He's also been working on his handle too, which is another plus.

We know he's gonna bring shot blocking, some rebounding, running the floor and dunking. What we need to see him do is at least be a threat to hit a jumper or take his man off the dribble as well as learn to stay out of foul trouble. If he can add those things to the ones he already does well, then we got a steal.

You say you realize he was a 2nd rounder than you say you expect him to finish near the rim, protect the rim, shoot from the outside, finish on the break, and take his man off the dribble.
How many 6'11" NBA players do that? 10? Maybe.
How about we temper our expectations some based on precedence for 2nd round picks. If he is a rotation player on a very good team its a great pick.
Your describing an All Star maybe an All NBA player

[DowNY]

I personally think that overly extroverts for thr knicks are not a good thing. NY eats up extroverts. Think about the atheletes that last in NYC; Jeter, Ewing, ect... They are reserved people. Guys like KP are perfect for NY. reserved, doesnt seek additional attention knowing they will have plenty of it coming their way.

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Yes Colin Cowherd

[kane2021]

I’m just blown away by the athletes today. How did this even happen? We’re seeing 7 footers that run like guards. Jump out of the gym. Can handle the ball and shoot with range. Mega wing spans. It’s like there’s been a genetic phenomenon. Wtf is going on?


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[Nazrmohamed]

I don't really have a problem with the pick but he's gonna need allot of work. I don't see any nba skills just raw athleticism

No NBA skills? Care to elaborate? Like what? I've seen shot blocking, shooting touch, taking correct angle when rolling to the basket, not to mention the agility.

So keep in mind, the videos you've been watching are against vastly inferior amateurs in a rec gym for the most part.

Shot blocking- when you're tall and athletic in that environment you'll block anything so you really haven't seen him against elite quickness at guard or against guys who will first bump him out of position
Shooting touch- it's ok. I got not too many complaints about that but ya know, you put Kyle Oquinn in a workout and he'll hit 8 of 10 jumpshots. No real game evidence so it's hard to know
Angles- I just don't see what you're watching

Agility- well this is why he was drafted. Why I'm willing to wait and see. Why he has potential. Why it could be a great pickup if he gets the SKILLS to go along with it. And that was my point. He's raw. Raw= run/jump/agility/speed.....no moves, footwork. So yes, my assessment was very accurate. Needs allot of work. There was even talk of G-League so I don't get what's the problem with what I'm saying. He's raw.

[knicks94]

I don't like this kid's attitude. He seems dumber than a bag of rocks. He makes Kevin Knox look like Stephen Hawking with his one word answers and his social awkwardness. Maybe he should hire Paul Heyman to be his mouth piece during interviews.

[thebuzzardman]

I don't really have a problem with the pick but he's gonna need allot of work. I don't see any nba skills just raw athleticism

No NBA skills? Care to elaborate? Like what? I've seen shot blocking, shooting touch, taking correct angle when rolling to the basket, not to mention the agility.

So keep in mind, the videos you've been watching are against vastly inferior amateurs in a rec gym for the most part.

Shot blocking- when you're tall and athletic in that environment you'll block anything so you really haven't seen him against elite quickness at guard or against guys who will first bump him out of position
Shooting touch- it's ok. I got not too many complaints about that but ya know, you put Kyle Oquinn in a workout and he'll hit 8 of 10 jumpshots. No real game evidence so it's hard to know
Angles- I just don't see what you're watching

Agility- well this is why he was drafted. Why I'm willing to wait and see. Why he has potential. Why it could be a great pickup if he gets the SKILLS to go along with it. And that was my point. He's raw. Raw= run/jump/agility/speed.....no moves, footwork. So yes, my assessment was very accurate. Needs allot of work. There was even talk of G-League so I don't get what's the problem with what I'm saying. He's raw.

There are clips against HS all stars, the kind of kids that get drafted into the NBA 1 or 2 years later.

Watch on YouTube

;t=151s
@1:13

[blanko]

I personally think that overly extroverts for thr knicks are not a good thing. NY eats up extroverts. Think about the atheletes that last in NYC; Jeter, Ewing, ect... They are reserved people. Guys like KP are perfect for NY. reserved, doesnt seek additional attention knowing they will have plenty of it coming their way.

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Yes Colin Cowherd

You think I'm wrong? Look at Eli Manning, Patrick Ewing, and Derek Jeter. Nyc is not a place for who always seek attention. The best type athlete for NYC is not guys who always seek attention but rather those who naturally dont care for attention. That is Why I think KP will be fine in NYC.

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[Nazrmohamed]

I don't really have a problem with the pick but he's gonna need allot of work. I don't see any nba skills just raw athleticism

Yeah he's a big time project. Last night I was hoping he wasn't the next Whiteside but today I'm hoping he can at least be better than the next Lucas Noguiera

Sure this kid has nice size and athletic ability but there is something about him that just has me reserved. If he wasn't in the NBA in a few years I really wouldn't be shocked about it. Gonna hope he pans out though but like you said he needs a lot of work.

He was the number 9 prospect coming out last year (according to video above), which is ironic.
He migh not be that much more a project, depending on what he‘s done since the. What has he done?

Well in the press conference he was asked what he's been doing to stay competitive, pick up games and such. He replied "no, just working out 9-5" to which Perry scrambles to clean up his statement, saying that there was a former nba player present.

Again, I'm not gonna totally bash the pick. He's young, he once had a top 15 national ranking, the physical aspects are intriguing and it's a second round pick. But
-he needs to be coached in terms of verbally getting his story straight cuz that press conference was hard to watch
- he needs to be coached on basic fundamentals cuz he looks like a project. A project I'm fine taking on but still a project.

Idk why some fans are getting defensive.

[Juco24]

To me no NBA skills makes me think of Jerome Jordan. A big who's sluggish, slow, uncoordinated & apathetic. This Kid Definitely needs a lot of work but same can be said for every rookie. Kid most definitely has NBA level skill - but he has to REFINE THOSE SKILLS but it's up to him to reach the potential he has.

[Nazrmohamed]

No NBA skills? Care to elaborate? Like what? I've seen shot blocking, shooting touch, taking correct angle when rolling to the basket, not to mention the agility.

So keep in mind, the videos you've been watching are against vastly inferior amateurs in a rec gym for the most part.

Shot blocking- when you're tall and athletic in that environment you'll block anything so you really haven't seen him against elite quickness at guard or against guys who will first bump him out of position
Shooting touch- it's ok. I got not too many complaints about that but ya know, you put Kyle Oquinn in a workout and he'll hit 8 of 10 jumpshots. No real game evidence so it's hard to know
Angles- I just don't see what you're watching

Agility- well this is why he was drafted. Why I'm willing to wait and see. Why he has potential. Why it could be a great pickup if he gets the SKILLS to go along with it. And that was my point. He's raw. Raw= run/jump/agility/speed.....no moves, footwork. So yes, my assessment was very accurate. Needs allot of work. There was even talk of G-League so I don't get what's the problem with what I'm saying. He's raw.

There are clips against HS all stars, the kind of kids that get drafted into the NBA 1 or 2 years later.

Watch on YouTube

;t=151s
@1:13

Ok that's fine but again, I don't see how that rebuffs my statements. He's raw. You guys seem more sensitive about me saying HE is raw than experts saying certain lottery picks are raw. Am I missing something here? He'll, even Knox has been called raw in certain areas.
It didn't help that this kid didn't play a kick of organized basketball since HS, it shows and it put him in position to get drafted 36th. Good job Knicks taking calculated risks but I had other options in mind. He's on my team now, he's got a lot of work to do.

Why must I defend this?

[thebuzzardman]

You don't have to defend him. BTW, other HS players have been drafted w/o playing college.

He's a project but I wouldn't say he lacks NBA skills - some. Clearly he'll need a lot of work.

[newyorker4ever]

I really like the C.Capela comparison. Lets not forget that Capela has grown into what he is now. He was playing like 7 minutes a game his first year and his minutes slowly went up every year along with his numbers and he's now become a legit center in the league especially on defense but his offense is coming around especially with the lob passes from CP and Harden and Mitchell looks great in all his clips with the lobs as well. Capela was drafted at #25 of the 1st round and Mitchell at 11 picks later in the 2nd round.

If the Knicks were in position to spend money this off season there's two bigs that would of been in my top players i'd want this off season in C.Capela or J.Randle cause both would be great next to KP. The kid has a ton of work to do to get to Capela level but i think he's the perfect comp for Mitchell.

[Juco24]

It's a difference in being raw vs no NBA skills. IJS

[BadNewsBarnes]

Tall and can shoot a 3. If Fiz is doing 5 out schemes, KP and Mitchell causes all sorts of defending problems outside the arc.

[fatalogic]

Another raw but physical freak was Rudy Gobert and he had a short stint in the g-league before coming to the big club. I hope the organization is looking at the Jazz as a model development organization because they have done incredible stuff when you look at where their players were drafted vs their impact in the nba.

[Phish Tank]

He hasn't played anything more than friendly non-competitive scrimmages in over a year. However, he's the perfect guinea pig for our developmental team in NY, which I think is actually pretty damn good anyways (here and Westchester).

First step is just being able to compete in Summer League. The practices in NY will be the first test where he's gonna face off against a lot of the players that played in extended garbage time last year. That'll include Hicks, Kornet, and others to name a few. It'll also include hungrier undrafted signees to the summer league squad to push for a training camp invite. He's gonna have to work hard enough in Vegas.

From there, I'd plan for him to spend the entire summer working out at the facility in Westchester with Fiz and the squad. He's gonna have to add weight and needs to get on a proper workout/diet plan here. I'd then have him work with Brickley as much as possible and have him play as many pickup games as Frank and Knox will be.

From there, he's gonna be in Westchester more often than not to start the season. The G-League will help reinforce some things he missed out on while not in college

[Jeff Van Gully]

let fiz cook with these stem cells