WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension

[Tron Carter]

[whocares1]

No the argument is you look desperate to hate the team you supposedly like.

Not necessarily. It’s like disliking the service at a restaurant but still liking the food. We just have higher expectations, you’re happy as long as the food isn’t burnt.

Let's one up your analogy. You dislike the service at a restaurant but still like the food. You decide the best course of action is taking the bits of pieces of the restaurant that make it whole and burning it to ground. Fate and luck will reward you a magic token that elevates you to a 5-star restaurant. The alternative is starting with a foundation and building a better restaurant.

Think about sucking with Fizdale and expecting "stars" to think he's such a nice guy he'll want to play with our awesome lotto picks (Knox and Frank). It's not the way the league works.

The problem is that you think Bc the Knicks missed on their lottery selections that that isn’t the correct path to take. On the contrary, that’s when we need to look at the off the court process and look deeply into who is scouting talent for the Knicks and who’s developing these players. That’s how we become a well rounded organization. That’s why these guys are getting paid a lot of money. They need to make the right decisions like other organizations did.

[Gravy]

Now the argument is “hey..other teams are making bad decisions, so who cares if we are?” Meanwhile the Heat have three championships in the last 15 years.

So what's your foolproof step by step plan to win a championship since you know more than Pat Riley now?

Theres no foolproof plan. I never claimed to know more than Pat Riley and if that’s what you understood then you should reread where I said that the man has already won a ring for his team before even Bron came. All I can tell you with 100% certainty is that whatever the Knicks are doing is not even close to a path to a championship.

So you have no plan to win a championship either. You have no idea what to do but you seem to already know what the Knicks will do in the next 5 years and all the players they will have on the team in the next 5 years.

[Reign23]

So who we trading Obi for? Thats was a huge blunder.

I'm not sure but the fact is he still needs a lot of work anyway. I don't think he's earned more than 10-15 mins

Im tired of our lottery picks not being able to touch floor.

I think if we get a future first for Obi or IQ (even protected) we should trade them asap. they won't see the floor to increase their value.

[Reign23]

think we are in the second tier of the east right now with chicago, boston, indiana and atlanta, which is crazy good imo. you just can't count on the standings from last season, cause that was so flukey. but a top 8 team is really nice.

[Ursusamericanus]

Solid bro move from Julius. I hope he's even better this season. Clearly he wants to win in NY which would immortalize him if it does happen.

[Kidknick!]

We're locked into a 6th-8th seed with no hope of a high draft pick for 2-3 years. Buckle those seat belts!

Jesus F'n Christ. You a lame...

[Gravy]

Now the argument is “hey..other teams are making bad decisions, so who cares if we are?” Meanwhile the Heat have three championships in the last 15 years.

So what's your foolproof step by step plan to win a championship since you know more than Pat Riley now?

they never have one. Step 1: complain Step 2: profit?

They got a savior fantasy that we draft the next Dame and the best the stars in the league come to play with him and the country chants Dame time as we wins multiple rings....oh wait he still hasn't been to a finals. KD, AD had to go somewhere else to win a ring, Embiid CP3 Harden are still waiting. I guess that's no foolproof plan either

[thisiskoz]

Another fine off-season move by the front office. Clearly now was the optimal time for this extension in terms of risk/reward.

It seems to me that a lot of the negative sentiment in this thread stems from the same line of thinking that causes people go to the convenient store every week and buy lotto tickets instead of saving the money and working with a financial planner. Much easier to convince yourself that the lotto ticket is gonna hit and everything is going to be alright as opposed to doing the hard work to put yourself in a position to take advantage of a game changing opportunity if one presents itself. Nice to see business people in charge of this franchise. Feel the odds of seeing a championship in my lifetime have gone up. I'm all in on Aller as the strategist.

[Appleshampoo]

The Heat committed $180 million over 5 years on Danny Devito and Napoleon Dynamite in addition to $180 million to Rachel Nichols Disney bubble F buddy. Oh they're so fantastic. The Bucks should have never signed Middletown and Jrue Holiday to help Giannis because it wasn't Chris Paul and Kevin Durant!!!! Treadmill!!!!!! STFU

Now the argument is “hey..other teams are making bad decisions, so who cares if we are?” Meanwhile the Heat have three championships in the last 15 years.

So what's your foolproof step by step plan to win a championship since you know more than Pat Riley now?

Pat Riley tried to put together a competitive team in time between Dwayne Wade and Jimmy Butler. Some of you would've acted like Pat Riley chopped his leg off when they signed Goran Dragic.

[Butch718]

I can’t wait until Randle has another good season and the same fans criticizing this extension will continue to secretly root against him just because their lame asses want to be proven right.

Some of y’all really do deserve to relive the Isiah and PJ era’s on a non-stop continuous time loop for being such close minded bitter pricks.

[Butch718]

So what's your foolproof step by step plan to win a championship since you know more than Pat Riley now?

Theres no foolproof plan. I never claimed to know more than Pat Riley and if that’s what you understood then you should reread where I said that the man has already won a ring for his team before even Bron came. All I can tell you with 100% certainty is that whatever the Knicks are doing is not even close to a path to a championship.

So you have no plan to win a championship either. You have no idea what to do but you seem to already know what the Knicks will do in the next 5 years and all the players they will have on the team in the next 5 years.

lol fans like him love to criticize but couldn’t put together a real coherent plan on how they would hypothetically build a team. Typical lame bs. The Dipset of the Knick fan base.

[whocares1]

So what's your foolproof step by step plan to win a championship since you know more than Pat Riley now?

Theres no foolproof plan. I never claimed to know more than Pat Riley and if that’s what you understood then you should reread where I said that the man has already won a ring for his team before even Bron came. All I can tell you with 100% certainty is that whatever the Knicks are doing is not even close to a path to a championship.

So you have no plan to win a championship either. You have no idea what to do but you seem to already know what the Knicks will do in the next 5 years and all the players they will have on the team in the next 5 years.

Hit on draft picks, prioritize on their development. Keep cap space to acquire additional draft stock via trades. Sign mercenary vets to short term deals to help young players. Play in a modern NBA offense. Not crazy. Doesn’t guarantee a championship but it’s the only way.

[moocow007]

Not necessarily. It’s like disliking the service at a restaurant but still liking the food. We just have higher expectations, you’re happy as long as the food isn’t burnt.

Let's one up your analogy. You dislike the service at a restaurant but still like the food. You decide the best course of action is taking the bits of pieces of the restaurant that make it whole and burning it to ground. Fate and luck will reward you a magic token that elevates you to a 5-star restaurant. The alternative is starting with a foundation and building a better restaurant.

Think about sucking with Fizdale and expecting "stars" to think he's such a nice guy he'll want to play with our awesome lotto picks (Knox and Frank). It's not the way the league works.

The problem is that you think Bc the Knicks missed on their lottery selections that that isn’t the correct path to take. On the contrary, that’s when we need to look at the off the court process and look deeply into who is scouting talent for the Knicks and who’s developing these players. That’s how we become a well rounded organization. That’s why these guys are getting paid a lot of money. They need to make the right decisions like other organizations did.

So you want the Knicks to tank. That's what you believe to be the right "organizational approach" to building a well rounded franchise?

[Appleshampoo]

Theres no foolproof plan. I never claimed to know more than Pat Riley and if that’s what you understood then you should reread where I said that the man has already won a ring for his team before even Bron came. All I can tell you with 100% certainty is that whatever the Knicks are doing is not even close to a path to a championship.

So you have no plan to win a championship either. You have no idea what to do but you seem to already know what the Knicks will do in the next 5 years and all the players they will have on the team in the next 5 years.

Hit on draft picks, prioritize on their development. Keep cap space to acquire additional draft stock via trades. Sign mercenary vets to short term deals to help young players. Play in a modern NBA offense. Not crazy. Doesn’t guarantee a championship but it’s the only way.

Yeah let's hire Fizdale, too. The stars will align i'm telling you, bro. Trust me.

[thisiskoz]

Theres no foolproof plan. I never claimed to know more than Pat Riley and if that’s what you understood then you should reread where I said that the man has already won a ring for his team before even Bron came. All I can tell you with 100% certainty is that whatever the Knicks are doing is not even close to a path to a championship.

So you have no plan to win a championship either. You have no idea what to do but you seem to already know what the Knicks will do in the next 5 years and all the players they will have on the team in the next 5 years.

Hit on draft picks, prioritize on their development. Keep cap space to acquire additional draft stock via trades. Sign mercenary vets to short term deals to help young players. Play in a modern NBA offense. Not crazy. Doesn’t guarantee a championship but it’s the only way.

[Butch718]

Sign mercenary vets? Which ones? The mercenary vets were all signed to awful deals.

Hit on draft picks? You can’t play armchair GM after the fact. I will say however that our scouts are awful in this department.

Your plan requires this team to continue to be bad until they hit on a pick. It’s like you haven’t learned anything about NBA players wanting to go to teams with winning cultures. No one wants to go to a team that’s constantly losing.

This team made moves to put a competitive team out there while remaining flexible to make future moves and trades. We still have all our picks too.

[Tron Carter]

everybody knows a revolving door of mercenary vets and no roster continuity is the sure fire way to developing young talent and acquiring superstars

[sol537]

Each player and draft pick is an asset. Some players are negative assets. On our roster, I think this is the first time in a long time that I don't see any real negative assets which, in and of itself, is AMAZING. That's means we're doing a great job evaluating talent and paying them market or below market value. That also means trades will be much easier to get done since we're not carrying albatross deals on the books.

I think Noel is one guy people were talking about being overpaid, but if you really analyze his value, you'll realize that he was the backbone of our top defense last year like Gobert is for Utah. Noel's defense is really, really good. I put him at top 10 in the NBA and I watch plenty of games around the league. At worst, his contract is "fair". At best, it's a bargain for what he brings.

[Gravy]

Theres no foolproof plan. I never claimed to know more than Pat Riley and if that’s what you understood then you should reread where I said that the man has already won a ring for his team before even Bron came. All I can tell you with 100% certainty is that whatever the Knicks are doing is not even close to a path to a championship.

So you have no plan to win a championship either. You have no idea what to do but you seem to already know what the Knicks will do in the next 5 years and all the players they will have on the team in the next 5 years.

Hit on draft picks, prioritize on their development. Keep cap space to acquire additional draft stock via trades. Sign mercenary vets to short term deals to help young players. Play in a modern NBA offense. Not crazy. Doesn’t guarantee a championship but it’s the only way.

I'm all for hitting on draft picks. Didnt we hit on RJ? KP? Mitch, IQ. How many superstars are you realistically going to draft in a 5 year time period, maybe 1 if you're lucky and 1 superstar just guarantees a 1st round exit

Mercenary vets lol. People here b1tch and moan when any vet wins a game or plays too many minutes

Modern NBA offense with what players? Kerr needs Curry and Klay, Nick Nurse needs Kawhi, Brad stevens gave up etc