OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[HarthorneWingo]

My protocol is pretty basic. I’m fully vaccinated so I’m maskless when I’m outdoors which is usually at one of the local parks or walking my dog in the immediate neighborhood.

If I’m going indoors, then I mask up.

If I was invited to attend an outdoor concert or ballgame, which I haven’t done since this pandemic began, I just probably wouldn’t go. I’m perfectly content to stay at home and ride this thing out. Plus, no shlepping to and from games and no dealing with ignorant fans.

[Clyde_Style]

My protocol is pretty basic. I’m fully vaccinated so I’m maskless when I’m outdoors which is usually one of the local parks or walking my dog in the immediate neighborhood.

If I’m going indoors, then I mask up.

If I was invited to attend an outdoor concert or ballgame, which I haven’t done since this pandemic began, I just probably wouldn’t go. I’m perfectly content to stay at home and ride this thing out. Plus, no shlepping to and from games and no dealing with ignorant fans.

That's pretty much it. I go to the gym to swim which is relatively safe with the distance and chlorine. It was very busy. I was the ONLY masked person in the whole gym. Some guy even had the stones to stare at me.

I do wonder how many of those people will soon get sick. They are working out so they feel like they are strong and won't get sick, but the longer this goes on like this I think we will see the numbers in younger and healthier demographics spike.

My Dad lived to 91. Your pop lived to 100. Those are good ages and I'd like to give it a go too. We have to protect ourselves for now though

[Zenzibar]

Whats the data on the vaccinated being able to spread covid?

Well, old vaccine style is a mutated version of the virus that has been modified enough that won't get people sick while the body produces antibodies to fight that virus. There's a balance between being effective enough for the body to recognize the virus and not be harmed by vaccine.

The new one doesn't have the whole virus, it just has the spike proteins from the virus that is on the edge of the virus where it attached to our cells. So there's no cell to to infect anything, it's just the specific proteins of that virus that the body builds those antibodies to fight it.

So in theory, the new technology should be safer than the old because it doesn't actually contain the virus. The technology has powerful implications with how medicine and vaccines can work because it's a relatively novel tactic but undoubtedly there are some long term effect questions left to be answered.

Whatever it even is the probabilities of the vaccine spreading the virus I think it would be very difficult to get that data considering the lag in contracting it to symptoms while being contagious virtually the whole time. I'm not sure that is something that could be determined considering the circumstances.

I just listened to a podcast and some researchers have discovered a particular protein's 'hack code' to get into the cell. They think this may be a key to understanding how many of the various things that corrupt and mutate our body to make us sick so possibly search for a way to block them.

I don't know all the technical terms for what this scientist on the podcast was talking about this new derivative work on the process as he was commenting on the research he had learned about but I understand the layman's way to understand it so did my best to explain it.

Thanks Bro, I didn't know alot of that.

[Zenzibar]

Whats the data on the vaccinated being able to spread covid?

Google it

Seriously, Google just points to vaccinated folks can spread Covid too.

[Clyde_Style]

Whats the data on the vaccinated being able to spread covid?

Google it

Come on man

[Zenzibar]

Google it

Come on man

It's all good Bro, I'm just asking questions, cause it's what I do.

Question: Do you take your annual flu vaccine?

[HarthorneWingo]

Everything is going to be a complete fcking mess in two months. You watch. I bet by November at the latest, the schools will be closing down again; businesses, restaurants, and bars will be closing down again until we can get the numbers back to some level of reasonableness. And who knows when that'll be, for Christ's sake.

I lost four relatives this year including my dad (100 years old!) and my closest cousin (69 years old) who was my fishing Guru and buddy. We were just talking about our lists of potential destinations to retire at. Neither died from COVID. I can't even watch the news anymore. Everything is out of our control and depressing. Next summer is going to be Hell.

The death cult has done everything in their power to make this world a horrifying experience for most of the planet's population regardless of how many comforts and toys man creates for some.

It’s like they want the world to end for some kind of resurrection crapola. What else could it be? I can’t explain all this stupid coming together at one time in a perfect storm of catastrophic climate calamities, war upon war, and the financial collapse of our economy and maybe the world economy. At least that’s how it feels like to me.

[Fury]

Whats the data on the vaccinated being able to spread covid?

Google it

Seriously, Google just points to vaccinated folks can spread Covid too.

But you're 5 times less likely to get it and then spread it if you're vaccinated.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891 (check the Pfizer rows and compare it to people who are unvaccinated samples)

[Clyde_Style]

well there you go, it's happening now. You work for the Feds you have to vaccinate or take regular tests. You do business with the feds your company has to get on board. You have over 100 employees, same.

There will be some kind of revolt now among anti-mask/vaccine people, but the bottom line is almost every company will get on board as this provides them with the cover to mandate something by telling their employees they have no choice. So Biden takes their heat and 90 something percent of companies get what they want. It takes balls to do this and I'm glad he's doing it

[Fat Kat]

Read on Twitter

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[DaGawd]

I’ll gladly take my regular testing for now

[Clyde_Style]

Politically speaking, any blowback Biden takes for this will be significantly offset by the outcome which is he just saved the American economy from looming disaster. Instead of enduring more shutdowns this Fall the pandemic will lose steam and economic confidence will start to grow. Not everything is about the buck, but it is pretty evident the wheels would have come off the economy if he did not do this. It is the right call. Good on him

One thing this will also do is compartmentalize our society. The predominant remaining infections will be among communities where there are smaller businesses and ongoing pockets of resistance. IOW, rural and smaller town/city MAGA outposts will breed covid among themselves. For example, all of the lawn guys in FL (there's tens of thousands of them) mostly work for themselves. Many of them are MAGA. They mostly contract with homeowners.

Repeat that for every roof washer, handyman, mover, etc. and you'll still probably have millions of people just in FL who fall outside the employ of big business and federal contracts. So they will keep covid going, but more in their own communities. So if you live outside of urban areas and cross paths with this unvaccinated demographic, you may still want to mask up when shopping.

So I can see a fair amount of inoculation to be achieved in the major urban centers and corporate office areas. This initiative will embolden companies to re-open their offices if they were hestitating before and get people out of their remote work situations.

And then there will be a tiny percentage of people who quit their jobs in protest. I'd guess less than one percent of the anti-vaccine/mask people will quit, but a handful will. But most of them will keep their jobs and either vaxx or test.

[Capn'O]

Google it

Seriously, Google just points to vaccinated folks can spread Covid too.

But you're 5 times less likely to get it and then spread it if you're vaccinated.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891 (check the Pfizer rows and compare it to people who are unvaccinated samples)

I met this guy this morning who wants to split $1000000 between zenzibar and me. I figure I'll take $999,999 and he'll get a dollar. Seems fair as we both get money.

[Clyde_Style]

Seriously, Google just points to vaccinated folks can spread Covid too.

But you're 5 times less likely to get it and then spread it if you're vaccinated.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891 (check the Pfizer rows and compare it to people who are unvaccinated samples)

I met this guy this morning who wants to split $1000000 between zenzibar and me. I figure I'll take $999,999 and he'll get a dollar. Seems fair as we both get money.

[stuporman]

Everything is going to be a complete fcking mess in two months. You watch. I bet by November at the latest, the schools will be closing down again; businesses, restaurants, and bars will be closing down again until we can get the numbers back to some level of reasonableness. And who knows when that'll be, for Christ's sake.

I lost four relatives this year including my dad (100 years old!) and my closest cousin (69 years old) who was my fishing Guru and buddy. We were just talking about our lists of potential destinations to retire at. Neither died from COVID. I can't even watch the news anymore. Everything is out of our control and depressing. Next summer is going to be Hell.

The death cult has done everything in their power to make this world a horrifying experience for most of the planet's population regardless of how many comforts and toys man creates for some.

It’s like they want the world to end for some kind of resurrection crapola. What else could it be? I can’t explain all this stupid coming together at one time in a perfect storm of catastrophic climate calamities, war upon war, and the financial collapse of our economy and maybe the world economy. At least that’s how it feels like to me.

They are actively pushing for and creating those conditions for the widespread misery while they view themselves as the good heroes of the story that get saved while everyone else they tortured and abused get punished.

We don't even have to guess their intentions, actions and beliefs about this, they explicitly and openly say this is the way they see it and are why are doing it to make it so.

[Zenzibar]

Google it

Seriously, Google just points to vaccinated folks can spread Covid too.

But you're 5 times less likely to get it and then spread it if you're vaccinated.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891 (check the Pfizer rows and compare it to people who are unvaccinated samples)

Appreciate the knowledge Fury.

[Zenzibar]

Seriously, Google just points to vaccinated folks can spread Covid too.

But you're 5 times less likely to get it and then spread it if you're vaccinated.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2108891 (check the Pfizer rows and compare it to people who are unvaccinated samples)

I met this guy this morning who wants to split $1000000 between zenzibar and me. I figure I'll take $999,999 and he'll get a dollar. Seems fair as we both get money.

Haha ok sure.

But answer my question first. For $999,999.
Do you get your annual recommended flu shot?

[Capn'O]

Do you get your annual recommended flu shot?

Yes. Primarily to protect others who may be compromised.

[Zenzibar]

Do you get your annual recommended flu shot?

Yes. Primarily to protect others who may be compromised.

You deserve the money bag.



Wondering how many of the covid posters take theirs as well.

[dukeknicksirish]

Which vaccine did they get?

and what do mean Again?

from your post it sounds like 2 our 4 vaccinated got Covid AGAIN and the 10 unvaccinated did not get Covid (Again). What does that mean? Did the 4 vaccinated get their vaccine after being infected? Did the other 10 get Covid originally?

I believe Johnson & Johnson

And the 4 that had Covid before all got vaccinated and then got Covid again recently . 10 of us who have not received it , 3 had Covid once prior and all 10 , who haven’t been vaccinated, have not gotten it again.

OK, I'm assuming you're aware that the J&J vaccine is fundamentally different from the mRNA based vaccines provided by Pfizer and Moderna. IOW, the protection levels of the 2 shot mRNA vaccines are superior by a significant margin

Interesting. Now I am going to be forced by a dictator to get one because , in his words , not taken out of context, “it’s not about freedom or personal choice”. So yes, now I 100% am against it, even if the illnesses effects didn’t scare me enough
Cool President this guy is

I think I’ll make my own choices, and he won’t be getting another vote from me