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[Chanel Bomber]

You know it was Thibs who chose Burks over Reggie. Knicks prioritizing iso-heroball over 3-D like Woody is still coach.

Just my opinion, but Reggie Bullock is a Mav right now because Tom refused to trust IQ as a primary ball handler-shot creator.

Thibs lobbied to have Bullock back.

[Reign23]

this GSW thing is beyond unbelievable.
they don't have Durant anymore, Steph, Klay and Draymond are maybe 80% the players they once were .... and they are the most talented team in the league by a pretty wide margin. with lottery talents like Kuminga, Wiseman and Moody in the waiting line.

holy smokes. Guano, Cap its looking good guys !!!!

[KnicksGadfly]

this GSW thing is beyond unbelievable.
they don't have Durant anymore, Steph, Klay and Draymond are maybe 80% the players they once were .... and they are the most talented team in the league by a pretty wide margin. with lottery talents like Kuminga, Wiseman and Moody in the waiting line.

holy smokes. Guano, Cap its looking good guys !!!!

Love it. KD’s chip looking weaker and weaker.

[Reign23]

he is too busy getting cooked and shooting airballs

Warriors fans cooking him too

I thought he improved the last two years. That’s what everyone’s been saying.

what game did you all watch?

[thebuzzardman]

Games like this just point out how far we are away on a skill level from an elite team.

Don't worry 1-2 years from now, Cam Reddish will be our franchise player leading us Knicks in ECF averaging 28ppg, 8rpg, 6apg, 2spg.

That's a mighty big return for the cost of a low first round draft pick!

Scott Perry and James Dolan are geniuses.

[thebuzzardman]

Wiggins, Butler, Lavine before that. Do successes of ex-Minnesota players show Thibs is highly overrated as a coach? Just asking

Shows how good he is at development.

Wasn't Butler good before Minnesota? The f*ckup there was Thibs brought him in at cost of assets only to lose him?

[thebuzzardman]

Where's frankie so far 14 minutes 0 points in this series

He and Bullocks stellar defense is shutting down the Warriors, only allowing them to average 119 points a game so far in this series.

[thebuzzardman]

You know it was Thibs who chose Burks over Reggie. Knicks prioritizing iso-heroball over 3-D like Woody is still coach.

Just my opinion, but Reggie Bullock is a Mav right now because Tom refused to trust IQ as a primary ball handler-shot creator.

Maybe they wanted another player on the roster besides Rose who was capable of driving to the hoop with some degree of success.

Because that sure as sh*t wasn't IQ as a rookie or 3/4's of his 2nd year.

Sigh. Another entry in the everlasting Bullocks vs Burks debate.

You know what? They both kind of suck. They are ordinary players. Actually decent if you keep them in their lane, in their role. I don't think it's an accident the Knicks were decent when they had both. Then again, you hate vets and wins, so not sure why you are carrying on about Bullocks.

Burks looks better if you keep him to 18 mpg as a secondary ballhandler
Bullocks looks good if you just let him spot up and shoot. If a team has a generational talent like Luka, better yet. Knicks don't have one of those and haven't had one for...this is up for debate. Some might say 30 years, it's arguable it's been 45 years. Yeah, Pat was great. Generational? Probably not.

The real issue is that the Knicks knew they needed to get more offensive variety, but wasted the effort on Fournier, who isn't a needle mover enough, though I initially supported the move in concept, it would have been better to just bring back Bullocks AND Burks and not sign anyone. Oh, and of course Walker was a giant disaster of a signing - not addressing PG correctly was a total fail by every member of the FO and coaching staff.

[thebuzzardman]

You know it was Thibs who chose Burks over Reggie. Knicks prioritizing iso-heroball over 3-D like Woody is still coach.

Just my opinion, but Reggie Bullock is a Mav right now because Tom refused to trust IQ as a primary ball handler-shot creator.

noel is a much worse contract than. Burks

Sure but what would a modern NBA team be without multiple rim-protecting centers who can’t shoot?

It's always good to carry 4 centers in the modern NBA!

[thebuzzardman]

It was widely reported that Tom wanted to bring Bullock back. He doesn't get that evil.

Fine ruin my Escape goat fantasies. Happy to see Reggie thrive even if it means pulling my hair out watching MJ Burks run point.

Interestingly, Scott Perry's name doesn't come up on ANY of the players.

We know he was in on Randle with Mills, and that is public.
Not sure he was ever associated with Elf, though that's a Perry move all the way.
We know is MO is 2nd draft scrubs and JAG vets on short deals, but when it comes down to who wanted Fournier or not DeRozan, Burks but not Bullocks, who wanted Noel back (Taj and Rose are pretty obviously Thibs), the trade for Cam, it's all a bit of a black box in terms of accountability, but Perry's name rarely, if ever, surfaces.

Cam was supposed to be more an Aller thing, I THINK with WWW. WWW pushed for IQ in the draft. Obi seems to be all Leon's gift to his son. Grimes? Who knows. Sims? Who knows. All those trades for 2nd rounders are attributed to Aller, but we are mostly guessing.
Thibs gets the blame for Bullocks leaving, Fournier coming in, but again, this is rumor stuff from the NY Post.

Perry either does absolutely nothing or is super slick at deflecting blame. I'm going with the 2nd, since I don't think they extended him for more years just to do paperwork.

I get the FO is "by committee", with the generally stellar results most committees produce, but again, I find it interesting that every time info gets leaked to the press, Perry's name isn't on it. Probably because he's the source for the story.

And Aller leaks to that guy Yaron Weitzman, for sure.

[evevale]

We're totally getting Mo Bamba this summer. And letting Mitch go. And there's a certain irony about that which I wish sham was around for because he knows exactly what I'm talking about.

go on ...

lottery talents like Kuminga, Wiseman and Moody in the waiting line

> lamelo hoisting up finals mvp/nba championship in warriors jersey next to poole & kuminga
> 3peat banner waving gloriously in the cloudless summer sky
> roaring chants of "DY-NAS-TY DY-NAS-TY" shake the earth
> tears of joy & pride stream from every fan's blushed faces

-meanwhile-

> wiseman in a walmart uniform w/ a disappointed look on his face - over the loudspeaker his manager screaming at him to get to aisle 9 for cleanup



**** the warriors

[Jay10]

It was widely reported that Tom wanted to bring Bullock back. He doesn't get that evil.

Fine ruin my Escape goat fantasies. Happy to see Reggie thrive even if it means pulling my hair out watching MJ Burks run point.

Interestingly, Scott Perry's name doesn't come up on ANY of the players.

We know he was in on Randle with Mills, and that is public.
Not sure he was ever associated with Elf, though that's a Perry move all the way.
We know is MO is 2nd draft scrubs and JAG vets on short deals, but when it comes down to who wanted Fournier or not DeRozan, Burks but not Bullocks, who wanted Noel back (Taj and Rose are pretty obviously Thibs), the trade for Cam, it's all a bit of a black box in terms of accountability, but Perry's name rarely, if ever, surfaces.

Cam was supposed to be more an Aller thing, I THINK with WWW. WWW pushed for IQ in the draft. Obi seems to be all Leon's gift to his son. Grimes? Who knows. Sims? Who knows. All those trades for 2nd rounders are attributed to Aller, but we are mostly guessing.
Thibs gets the blame for Bullocks leaving, Fournier coming in, but again, this is rumor stuff from the NY Post.

Perry either does absolutely nothing or is super slick at deflecting blame. I'm going with the 2nd, since I don't think they extended him for more years just to do paperwork.

I get the FO is "by committee", with the generally stellar results most committees produce, but again, I find it interesting that every time info gets leaked to the press, Perry's name isn't on it. Probably because he's the source for the story.

And Aller leaks to that guy Yaron Weitzman, for sure.

the players that at some point played for the Pistons and Magic are all Perry's guys.

Fournier - Scott Perry
Bullock - Scott Perry
Elfrid - Scott Perry

Grimes = Walt Perrin
Burks = Walt Perrin

Obi = Leon Rose

Quickley = WWW

Sims = Brock Aller(will be used as leverage against mitchell in contract talks); new guy(jonathan macri and jeremy cohen said his name on their latest podcast) prefers players like Nerlens, Mitchell, and Sims, who get high percentage shots(dunks), compared to centers that want to live on the perimeter an attempt low percentage 3 pointers.

[Jay10]

noel is a much worse contract than. Burks

Sure but what would a modern NBA team be without multiple rim-protecting centers who can’t shoot?

It's always good to carry 4 centers in the modern NBA!

The Mavs are wishing they had 1, instead of making Looney look like Wilt Chamberlain in the paint.

The Mavs are down 0-2 because they have no center to defend the paint and get rebounds.

[3toheadmelo]

Where's frankie so far 14 minutes 0 points in this series

with the way this forum has talked him up you would think he was having a crazy impact in the post season. his numbers are incredibly bad. averaging 1.3 points per game shooting 25% from the field and 23% from 3. ultimate brick layer folks!

[Jay10]

Where's frankie so far 14 minutes 0 points in this series

with the way this forum has talked him up you would think he was having a crazy impact in the post season. his numbers are incredibly bad. averaging 1.3 points per game shooting 25% from the field and 23% from 3. ultimate brick layer folks!

you know his impact has always been on the defensive end, and in the previous series against the Suns, he literally took Chris Paul and Devin Booker out of the game when he was defending them.

he was taken out of last night's game because he missed 3 shots.

[3toheadmelo]

Where's frankie so far 14 minutes 0 points in this series

with the way this forum has talked him up you would think he was having a crazy impact in the post season. his numbers are incredibly bad. averaging 1.3 points per game shooting 25% from the field and 23% from 3. ultimate brick layer folks!

you know his impact has always been on the defensive end, and in the previous series against the Suns, he literally took Chris Paul and Devin Booker out of the game when he was defending them.

he was taken out of last night's game because he missed 3 shots.

sure he had some good defensive possessions, but they didn't win because of his 10 minutes per game against the suns. come on now.

plus i am not seeing this defensive impact against golden state.

[Jay10]

with the way this forum has talked him up you would think he was having a crazy impact in the post season. his numbers are incredibly bad. averaging 1.3 points per game shooting 25% from the field and 23% from 3. ultimate brick layer folks!

you know his impact has always been on the defensive end, and in the previous series against the Suns, he literally took Chris Paul and Devin Booker out of the game when he was defending them.

he was taken out of last night's game because he missed 3 shots.

sure he had some good defensive possessions, but they didn't win because of his 10 minutes per game against the suns. come on now.

plus i am not seeing this defensive impact against golden state.

Josh Green was getting taken to the woodshed in games 1 and 2 against the Suns because he couldn't stop anyone on the defensive end and he couldn't score. When he took Green's rotation minutes he did his job when it came to slowing down Chris Paul and Devin Booker on the perimeter.

There isn't going to be any defensive impact If he isn't making his 3 pointers in this series. He missed 2 open 3 pointers last night and it was allowing the Warriors to double team Luka and Kidd took him out the game.

[3toheadmelo]

you know his impact has always been on the defensive end, and in the previous series against the Suns, he literally took Chris Paul and Devin Booker out of the game when he was defending them.

he was taken out of last night's game because he missed 3 shots.

sure he had some good defensive possessions, but they didn't win because of his 10 minutes per game against the suns. come on now.

plus i am not seeing this defensive impact against golden state.

There isn't going to be any defensive impact If he isn't making his 3 pointers in this series. He missed 2 open 3 pointers last night and it was allowing the Warriors to double team Luka.

yeah they're leaving him wide open. he has to make them. kinda mind boggling how hes such a poor shooter with a good form. he needs to gain confidence as a shooter

[Guano]

We're totally getting Mo Bamba this summer. And letting Mitch go. And there's a certain irony about that which I wish sham was around for because he knows exactly what I'm talking about.

go on ...

lottery talents like Kuminga, Wiseman and Moody in the waiting line

> lamelo hoisting up finals mvp/nba championship in warriors jersey next to poole & kuminga
> 3peat banner waving gloriously in the cloudless summer sky
> roaring chants of "DY-NAS-TY DY-NAS-TY" shake the earth
> tears of joy & pride stream from every fan's blushed faces

-meanwhile-

wiseman in a walmart uniform w/ a disappointed look on his face - over the loudspeaker his manager screaming at him to get to aisle 9 for cleanup



**** the warriors

@melo, just wanted to make sure you didn't miss the foresight on Wiseman being a bust.


hope your day is going miserably - struggling to cope with your Luka lead mavs being cooked.

[Capn'O]

We're totally getting Mo Bamba this summer. And letting Mitch go. And there's a certain irony about that which I wish sham was around for because he knows exactly what I'm talking about.

go on ...

Sham and I were both big Bamba fans pre-draft. I had scouted Mitch for BAF. Neither of us liked Knox. Sham was pissed that we missed on Bamba and was ragging on the Mitch pick when we made it. I was like whoa wait, this guy could be a pretty damn good consolation prize.

Fast forward, Mitch has been objectively better, he's Sham's favorite, and we might (likely imo) let him walk for Bamba.