2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[KnixinSix]

Getting Randle at sub 30M is a steal for a 20+ 10 reb 4 ast player at the PF position. KAT may be the better player but when you factor economics with the looming CBA it changes things drastically

That doesn't change anything. The trade you suggested is never going to happen. KAT has value. Reid has value. The only player you sent out that has value on this level is Randle and I doubt it's that much. One pick is not getting it done.

KAT is really not very good and compared to his contract, he's bad.

He's an upgrade to Randle and a better fit with the current roster. Because of the contract he shouldn't cost much more than Randle.

[HopelessKnick]

That doesn't change anything. The trade you suggested is never going to happen. KAT has value. Reid has value. The only player you sent out that has value on this level is Randle and I doubt it's that much. One pick is not getting it done.

KAT is really not very good and compared to his contract, he's bad.

He's an upgrade to Randle and a better fit with the current roster. Because of the contract he shouldn't cost much more than Randle.

The Wolves started off the season pretty well....if this continues they aren't going to trade him here. I also think he is out of position at the 4.....too slow and imobile.....you would not only have to trade for KAT but also for a strong defensive 4....don't see it happening. The Wolves will be a fringe playoff team for a couple years and try to sell it as a success.....as long as they are on a playoff trajectory they are going to keep him IMO.

[HopelessKnick]

If there was any chance to get OG at a reasonable or even expensive price he'd already be a knick. He is probably the best wing defender in the NBA and could potentially average 20 points on good %. He will cost a kings ransom. I actually doubt Mitchell costing much more than Anunoby.

[HopelessKnick]

What is your guys' take on Zion....since this thread is to throw around names: Given the possibility that New Orleans may start at some point considering to trade Zion...would you guys be willing to put together a serious trade package or is he too much of a risk?

Say NO was willing to trade Zion for Randle + IQ + 3-4 picks.....would you bite?

Either Zion is really unhappy in NO or he really does not give much of a damn about his bball career. 5th season in and he looks still overweight and really hasn't improved his game at all. I'd probably pass on him at this point but he is the only real "potential" game changer.....

[HopelessKnick]

I think Markkanen would be a great fit. Plays off the ball, shoots extremely well and is overall a good team player. Is about to become a FA and Utah may consider cashing in picks etc. instead of giving him a big extension. Fits agewise.

Brunson
Grimes
RJ
Markkannen
Mitch

looks really balanced to me. I believe he has played SF as well so we could even integrate him with Randle around:

Brunson
RJ
Markannen
Randle
Mitch

Only downside to him is injuries....

[KnixinSix]

KAT is really not very good and compared to his contract, he's bad.

He's an upgrade to Randle and a better fit with the current roster. Because of the contract he shouldn't cost much more than Randle.

The Wolves started off the season pretty well....if this continues they aren't going to trade him here. I also think he is out of position at the 4.....too slow and imobile.....you would not only have to trade for KAT but also for a strong defensive 4....don't see it happening. The Wolves will be a fringe playoff team for a couple years and try to sell it as a success.....as long as they are on a playoff trajectory they are going to keep him IMO.

KAT and NAZ. Thats how we roll.

[knicksfan974]

I think Markkanen would be a great fit. Plays off the ball, shoots extremely well and is overall a good team player. Is about to become a FA and Utah may consider cashing in picks etc. instead of giving him a big extension. Fits agewise.

Brunson
Grimes
RJ
Markkannen
Mitch

looks really balanced to me. I believe he has played SF as well so we could even integrate him with Randle around:

Brunson
RJ
Markannen
Randle
Mitch

Only downside to him is injuries....

Interesting, but what I have learned from the Finnish media is that Markkanen seems to be pretty happy in his current situation with the Jazz and life in Salt Lake City in general, and I would assume the Jazz would want to sign him to an extension.

[knicksfan974]

What is your guys' take on Zion....since this thread is to throw around names: Given the possibility that New Orleans may start at some point considering to trade Zion...would you guys be willing to put together a serious trade package or is he too much of a risk?

Say NO was willing to trade Zion for Randle + IQ + 3-4 picks.....would you bite?

Either Zion is really unhappy in NO or he really does not give much of a damn about his bball career. 5th season in and he looks still overweight and really hasn't improved his game at all. I'd probably pass on him at this point but he is the only real "potential" game changer.....

My take is that Zion still has room for improvement, and maybe what he really needs is a change of scenery. Not sure if I would be willing to give up multiple picks along with Randle and IQ for him, but if NO would bite on Randle + IQ + 1st, then done deal!

[HopelessKnick]

I think Markkanen would be a great fit. Plays off the ball, shoots extremely well and is overall a good team player. Is about to become a FA and Utah may consider cashing in picks etc. instead of giving him a big extension. Fits agewise.

Brunson
Grimes
RJ
Markkannen
Mitch

looks really balanced to me. I believe he has played SF as well so we could even integrate him with Randle around:

Brunson
RJ
Markannen
Randle
Mitch

Only downside to him is injuries....

Interesting, but what I have learned from the Finnish media is that Markkanen seems to be pretty happy in his current situation with the Jazz and life in Salt Lake City in general, and I would assume the Jazz would want to sign him to an extension.

Yeah I can definitely believe that. The Jazz, despite Markannen are gonna secure a top 5 pick so there is really no need to trade him. They'll likely extend him and rebuild with him there....just throwing out ideas.

[thebuzzardman]

Fournier/Grimes/2 picks and dropping the lawsuit for OG.

[spree8]

I know no one thinks this team has a ceiling past eastern conference appearance and that we are a true number 1 away from contending but I think if the following are true, all we need is a good big 3&d wing:

RJ continues the output/defense we've seen in the first 6 games,
Randle plays defense like he did in 20-21,
Brunson plays like he did last season,
Mitch continues the output we've seen in the first 8 games,
We keep IQ and the rest of our bench.

IF (and thats a big if) these things are true, I'm giving up 2-3 frps and Grimes for OG type player. OG, Jaden McDaniels, Herb Jones, or someone else like those guys. I think with a really good 3 & D wing to contend with the big wings, we can go toe to toe with anyone.

I think this team kind of reminds me of the 04 Pistons. Mitch is very similar to Ben Wallace. Randle and Sheed are similar (though I think Sheed is better, still can't deny Randle's numbers). Brunson and Chauncey. RJ and Tayshaun.

We have 4 guys who can score the ball in IQ, Brunson, Randle and RJ. The bench can explode. Our center minutes are really good. I don't think we are very far off from being a true contender.

I see what you’re saying in terms of roster construction and play style under Thibs, but this team is nowhere near the elite level of the 04’ Pistons.

Randle couldn’t be further from Sheed’s ability on the defense end. Same with Brunson and Billups. RJ while improving, isn’t the defender Prince was either. And for as good as Mitch is, Ben is an all-time great defender… just not close.

If anything, we’re a Dollar Store knock off version of that team.

[Baseline81]

KAT and NAZ. Thats how we roll.

As Jalen Bluntson posted, good luck if that's the package the Knicks are offering.

[8516knicks]

I think Markkanen would be a great fit. Plays off the ball, shoots extremely well and is overall a good team player. Is about to become a FA and Utah may consider cashing in picks etc. instead of giving him a big extension. Fits agewise.

Brunson
Grimes
RJ
Markkannen
Mitch

looks really balanced to me. I believe he has played SF as well so we could even integrate him with Randle around:

Brunson
RJ
Markannen
Randle
Mitch

Only downside to him is injuries....

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Of all your trade acquisition scenarios I'd like Markkannen the best.

[Fury]

Markkannen would be great but if there was a guy Utah wouldn't let go, it'd probably be him

[nykballa2k4]

If there was any chance to get OG at a reasonable or even expensive price he'd already be a knick. He is probably the best wing defender in the NBA and could potentially average 20 points on good %. He will cost a kings ransom. I actually doubt Mitchell costing much more than Anunoby.

I think as we get closer to February, the price will go down. Ultimately, he will determine where he is traded because no one is trading much for him as a UFA. In an ironic twist, he would likely be traded in a way similar to Kawii dealt to TOR. Probably a reasonable deal would be IQ, Grimes, NY '24 (or DAL'24), and two of the cashe (MIL'25, either WAS or DET). Fournier's contract of course attached.

Mitch/iHart
RAndle
OG/Hart
RJ/DD
Brunson/Deuce

OG would obviously be a max contract. 44M for him

IQ will be demanding 25 and Grimes a year later will be in the 20 range (greater if he makes a leap) so it's not as expensive as it looks, but he'd be the face of the team....

[The Vo Show]

I know no one thinks this team has a ceiling past eastern conference appearance and that we are a true number 1 away from contending but I think if the following are true, all we need is a good big 3&d wing:

RJ continues the output/defense we've seen in the first 6 games,
Randle plays defense like he did in 20-21,
Brunson plays like he did last season,
Mitch continues the output we've seen in the first 8 games,
We keep IQ and the rest of our bench.

IF (and thats a big if) these things are true, I'm giving up 2-3 frps and Grimes for OG type player. OG, Jaden McDaniels, Herb Jones, or someone else like those guys. I think with a really good 3 & D wing to contend with the big wings, we can go toe to toe with anyone.

I think this team kind of reminds me of the 04 Pistons. Mitch is very similar to Ben Wallace. Randle and Sheed are similar (though I think Sheed is better, still can't deny Randle's numbers). Brunson and Chauncey. RJ and Tayshaun.

We have 4 guys who can score the ball in IQ, Brunson, Randle and RJ. The bench can explode. Our center minutes are really good. I don't think we are very far off from being a true contender.

I see what you’re saying in terms of roster construction and play style under Thibs, but this team is nowhere near the elite level of the 04’ Pistons.

Randle couldn’t be further from Sheed’s ability on the defense end. Same with Brunson and Billups. RJ while improving, isn’t the defender Prince was either. And for as good as Mitch is, Ben is an all-time great defender… just not close.

If anything, we’re a Dollar Store knock off version of that team.

Definitely no where near their levels defensively but offensively we are better. And in the modern NBA, defense has been devalued by the rules and by the prevalence of the 3. You can't be as suffocating on D anymore. You need to have good rotations, play pnr defense well and rebound well which I think the knicks are pretty good at (so far this season at least).

[nykballa2k4]

IMO, we have to try to kick the tires on Anthony Davis. Randle is a win-now piece and health is one of his strengths. We also can offer other types of players that Lakers just don't have like IQ, iHart. We also can offer picks so that LeBron can play GM and get more of his friends over with him

[WargamesX]

I know no one thinks this team has a ceiling past eastern conference appearance and that we are a true number 1 away from contending but I think if the following are true, all we need is a good big 3&d wing:

RJ continues the output/defense we've seen in the first 6 games,
Randle plays defense like he did in 20-21,
Brunson plays like he did last season,
Mitch continues the output we've seen in the first 8 games,
We keep IQ and the rest of our bench.

IF (and thats a big if) these things are true, I'm giving up 2-3 frps and Grimes for OG type player. OG, Jaden McDaniels, Herb Jones, or someone else like those guys. I think with a really good 3 & D wing to contend with the big wings, we can go toe to toe with anyone.

I think this team kind of reminds me of the 04 Pistons. Mitch is very similar to Ben Wallace. Randle and Sheed are similar (though I think Sheed is better, still can't deny Randle's numbers). Brunson and Chauncey. RJ and Tayshaun.

We have 4 guys who can score the ball in IQ, Brunson, Randle and RJ. The bench can explode. Our center minutes are really good. I don't think we are very far off from being a true contender.

I see what you’re saying in terms of roster construction and play style under Thibs, but this team is nowhere near the elite level of the 04’ Pistons.

Randle couldn’t be further from Sheed’s ability on the defense end. Same with Brunson and Billups. RJ while improving, isn’t the defender Prince was either. And for as good as Mitch is, Ben is an all-time great defender… just not close.

If anything, we’re a Dollar Store knock off version of that team.

Definitely no where near their levels defensively but offensively we are better. And in the modern NBA, defense has been devalued by the rules and by the prevalence of the 3. You can't be as suffocating on D anymore. You need to have good rotations, play pnr defense well and rebound well which I think the knicks are pretty good at (so far this season at least).

Rip Hamilton Quickley.....

[8516knicks]

If there was any chance to get OG at a reasonable or even expensive price he'd already be a knick. He is probably the best wing defender in the NBA and could potentially average 20 points on good %. He will cost a kings ransom. I actually doubt Mitchell costing much more than Anunoby.

I think as we get closer to February, the price will go down. Ultimately, he will determine where he is traded because no one is trading much for him as a UFA. In an ironic twist, he would likely be traded in a way similar to Kawii dealt to TOR. Probably a reasonable deal would be IQ, Grimes, NY '24 (or DAL'24), and two of the cashe (MIL'25, either WAS or DET). Fournier's contract of course attached.

Mitch/iHart
RAndle
OG/Hart
RJ/DD
Brunson/Deuce

OG would obviously be a max contract. 44M for him

IQ will be demanding 25 and Grimes a year later will be in the 20 range (greater if he makes a leap) so it's not as expensive as it looks, but he'd be the face of the team....[/quotes]

Think I'd rather have Markkanen - we need shooters, especially also a tall one to space things for Randle.

[WargamesX]

If there was any chance to get OG at a reasonable or even expensive price he'd already be a knick. He is probably the best wing defender in the NBA and could potentially average 20 points on good %. He will cost a kings ransom. I actually doubt Mitchell costing much more than Anunoby.

I think as we get closer to February, the price will go down. Ultimately, he will determine where he is traded because no one is trading much for him as a UFA. In an ironic twist, he would likely be traded in a way similar to Kawii dealt to TOR. Probably a reasonable deal would be IQ, Grimes, NY '24 (or DAL'24), and two of the cashe (MIL'25, either WAS or DET). Fournier's contract of course attached.

Mitch/iHart
RAndle
OG/Hart
RJ/DD
Brunson/Deuce

OG would obviously be a max contract. 44M for him

IQ will be demanding 25 and Grimes a year later will be in the 20 range (greater if he makes a leap) so it's not as expensive as it looks, but he'd be the face of the team....[/quotes]

Think I'd rather have Markkanen - we need shooters, especially also a tall one to space things for Randle.

I don't think Grimes asks for 20 and on the low they can let Fournier expire and will have the money they need for IQ even if he wants 25. The only reason to do a trade is if it doesn't cut into the good players they have, which is why I think OG is a pipe dream. The knicks should be shopping Founier and picks only.