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Re: PG: Brunson is MVP candidate 

Post#361 » by Iron Mantis » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:42 pm

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cgmw wrote:That’s great sh*t, DOT.

I mean let’s call it what it is — Leon and Thibs are intentionally running their players into the ground to see what happens.

And don’t mistake my tone for criticism. Hell, it might work. Hartenstein leading the league in miles run at 7 feet tall is reckless AF and absolutely ridiculous, but the man might end up making generational wealth while helping the Knicks contend for ECF.

The brass at MSG is going for it, and the odds don’t seem great that these players will stay healthy. But hey, it’s a business and each playoff home game generates staggeringly astronomical amounts of revenue. So here we are.

Formula: 4 guys stand in a circle and watch the 5th guy cook on offense. Randle and Brunson get a pass on defense while the other 3 guys work twice as hard. This is the formula for 50 wins and a puncher’s chance in the first and second round.


You all really believe Thibs playing some guys 3-5 minutes less is going to prevent injuries?

It's about wearing them down over the course of many games. That rest adds up. You don't want to go into the playoffs fatigued, while other teams who were properly rested come out with crackhead playoff energy and outwork us.

This is not baseball. For every second on the court, basketball is non-stop running, jumping, shifting weight, bumping, pushing, falling, etc. (unless you're Julius Randle).

Over the course of 82 games, things can wear out from overuse without sufficient time for the body to repair itself... injuries can happen.
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Re: PG: Brunson is MVP candidate 

Post#362 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:03 pm

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2010 wrote:
You’re not factoring in how he’s chasing around the best offensive player on the other side of the ball. He’s working more on defense than he is on offense. So it’s still problematic for the amount of minutes he’s logging.

They actually track this stuff:

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/speed-distance?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*nyk&dir=D&sort=DIST_MILES

So that's overall, meaning including his Toronto games, OG is averaging 2.51 miles per game (1.28 on offense 1.22 on defense), 2nd only to Brunson at 2.72 miles per game (1.58 on offense 1.14 on defense)

If we just look at since the trade, OG is up to 2.72 miles per game (1.46 on offense 1.26 on defense) which is 3rd to Hartenstein's 2.79 miles per game and Brunson's 2.81 miles per game

For reference, 2.72 miles per game (Brunson's total average and OG's since the trade) is 4th in the league, with Rozier (2.78), Miles Bridges (2.79) and Maxey (2.91) being the most

I know that isn't the complete picture on how much energy is expended, but it gives you a good idea. To be fair too, this is largely just a "who plays the most minutes" thing, as it's roughly in that order. So I went and averaged the feet per minute they moved since the trade, it comes out to this for the top 8:

DDV: 415.4 feet/minute
Deuce: 413.8 feet/minute
Hartenstein: 411.5 feet/minute
Brunson: 404.9 feet/minute
OG: 391.0 feet/minute
Grimes: 391 feet/minute
Hart: 390.0 feet/minute
Randle: 364.4 feet/minute

For fun, I did Mitch: 379.3 feet/minute

Frankly, I don't know what this says, I was just bored, and it might not be completely accurate, but I figure it gives a bit of a picture as to effort. Also, cause it gives statistical evidence that Randle doesn't give effort.


This is excellent insight. Great stuff man!


STATISTICAL EVIDENCE OF RANDLE'S LAZINESS!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: PG: Brunson is MVP candidate 

Post#363 » by cgmw » Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:25 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
2010 wrote:
DOT wrote:They actually track this stuff:

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/speed-distance?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*nyk&dir=D&sort=DIST_MILES

So that's overall, meaning including his Toronto games, OG is averaging 2.51 miles per game (1.28 on offense 1.22 on defense), 2nd only to Brunson at 2.72 miles per game (1.58 on offense 1.14 on defense)

If we just look at since the trade, OG is up to 2.72 miles per game (1.46 on offense 1.26 on defense) which is 3rd to Hartenstein's 2.79 miles per game and Brunson's 2.81 miles per game

For reference, 2.72 miles per game (Brunson's total average and OG's since the trade) is 4th in the league, with Rozier (2.78), Miles Bridges (2.79) and Maxey (2.91) being the most

I know that isn't the complete picture on how much energy is expended, but it gives you a good idea. To be fair too, this is largely just a "who plays the most minutes" thing, as it's roughly in that order. So I went and averaged the feet per minute they moved since the trade, it comes out to this for the top 8:

DDV: 415.4 feet/minute
Deuce: 413.8 feet/minute
Hartenstein: 411.5 feet/minute
Brunson: 404.9 feet/minute
OG: 391.0 feet/minute
Grimes: 391 feet/minute
Hart: 390.0 feet/minute
Randle: 364.4 feet/minute

For fun, I did Mitch: 379.3 feet/minute

Frankly, I don't know what this says, I was just bored, and it might not be completely accurate, but I figure it gives a bit of a picture as to effort. Also, cause it gives statistical evidence that Randle doesn't give effort.


This is excellent insight. Great stuff man!


STATISTICAL EVIDENCE OF RANDLE'S LAZINESS!!!!!!!!!!

You’re trolling but it’s actually true.
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Re: PG: Brunson is MVP candidate 

Post#364 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:27 pm

cgmw wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
2010 wrote:
This is excellent insight. Great stuff man!


STATISTICAL EVIDENCE OF RANDLE'S LAZINESS!!!!!!!!!!

You’re trolling but it’s actually true.


More I'm joking, but it's true.
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