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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#362 » by stuporman » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:07 pm

Sheesh...OG shot 3-9 from 3 last night and I literally didn't notice it until I looked over the box score this afternoon to catch a few things that I didn't see during the game. Between the Knicks 'big 3' they went a 5-16 combined from 3, yet the team still shot nearly 40% for the game.

It just goes to show the impact OG has on defense so much so that the team can overcome a tough shooting night from deep from the top players and still comfortably handle a very good team. Having a top tier wing defender which pushes down all the other defenders one spot has transformed the Knicks defense.
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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#363 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:12 pm

Holy ****! :lol: I peeked at the DEN board to see what they had to say about last night's game. They had FOUR posts in the entire game thread! 3 from the same guy! :rofl:

Who cares about this game anyway was the last post! :lol: :lol: Apparently NO ONE! :rofl:
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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#364 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:19 pm

stuporman wrote:Sheesh...OG shot 3-9 from 3 last night and I literally didn't notice it until I looked over the box score this afternoon to catch a few things that I didn't see during the game. Between the Knicks 'big 3' they went a 5-16 combined from 3, yet the team still shot nearly 40% for the game.

It just goes to show the impact OG has on defense so much so that the team can overcome a tough shooting night from deep from the top players and still comfortably handle a very good team. Having a top tier wing defender which pushes down all the other defenders one spot has transformed the Knicks defense.


Take out Brunson because he was 1-2 which is good. Arci GT 0-1 should be ignored. Then it was 4-14 from Randle/OG and the rest of the team shot great. 13-23
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Post#365 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:20 pm

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That Dallas game is Silver/refs having us re-pay Dallas for stealing Brunson. I have never seen such a poorly officiated game.
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Post#366 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:25 pm

stuporman wrote:Sheesh...OG shot 3-9 from 3 last night and I literally didn't notice it until I looked over the box score this afternoon to catch a few things that I didn't see during the game. Between the Knicks 'big 3' they went a 5-16 combined from 3, yet the team still shot nearly 40% for the game.

It just goes to show the impact OG has on defense so much so that the team can overcome a tough shooting night from deep from the top players and still comfortably handle a very good team. Having a top tier wing defender which pushes down all the other defenders one spot has transformed the Knicks defense.


The underrated thing is that Deuce is actually a good shooter. he is shooting 46% from deep right now. He can't penetrate and devastate like IQ for 2 (and1), but those 3's have been huge.
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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#367 » by Ursusamericanus » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:26 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:Holy ****! :lol: I peeked at the DEN board to see what they had to say about last night's game. They had FOUR posts in the entire game thread! 3 from the same guy! :rofl:

Who cares about this game anyway was the last post! :lol: :lol: Apparently NO ONE! :rofl:


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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#368 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:28 pm

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stuporman wrote:Sheesh...OG shot 3-9 from 3 last night and I literally didn't notice it until I looked over the box score this afternoon to catch a few things that I didn't see during the game. Between the Knicks 'big 3' they went a 5-16 combined from 3, yet the team still shot nearly 40% for the game.

It just goes to show the impact OG has on defense so much so that the team can overcome a tough shooting night from deep from the top players and still comfortably handle a very good team. Having a top tier wing defender which pushes down all the other defenders one spot has transformed the Knicks defense.


The underrated thing is that Deuce is actually a good shooter. he is shooting 46% from deep right now. He can't penetrate and devastate like IQ for 2 (and1), but those 3's have been huge.


IQ was not a penetrating guard though. His floater was his escape valve more often than not. He would get going but usually hit a wall and had to bring it back out.
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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#369 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:31 pm

Ursusamericanus wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:Holy ****! :lol: I peeked at the DEN board to see what they had to say about last night's game. They had FOUR posts in the entire game thread! 3 from the same guy! :rofl:

Who cares about this game anyway was the last post! :lol: :lol: Apparently NO ONE! :rofl:


The Nuggets subreddit is much, much more active than their RealGM community.


I don't do sub reddit. Just thought it was funny.
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Post#370 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:31 pm

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stuporman wrote:Sheesh...OG shot 3-9 from 3 last night and I literally didn't notice it until I looked over the box score this afternoon to catch a few things that I didn't see during the game. Between the Knicks 'big 3' they went a 5-16 combined from 3, yet the team still shot nearly 40% for the game.

It just goes to show the impact OG has on defense so much so that the team can overcome a tough shooting night from deep from the top players and still comfortably handle a very good team. Having a top tier wing defender which pushes down all the other defenders one spot has transformed the Knicks defense.


The underrated thing is that Deuce is actually a good shooter. he is shooting 46% from deep right now. He can't penetrate and devastate like IQ for 2 (and1), but those 3's have been huge.


IQ was not a penetrating guard though. His floater was his escape valve more often than not. He would get going but usually hit a wall and had to bring it back out.

He had the floater and he had those herky-jerky draw the foul moves. If Deuce doesn't have an easy dunk, he has a hard time finishing for two. Also the way he shoots ... slow release ... isn't great for any sort of midrange.
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Post#371 » by stuporman » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:35 pm

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stuporman wrote:Sheesh...OG shot 3-9 from 3 last night and I literally didn't notice it until I looked over the box score this afternoon to catch a few things that I didn't see during the game. Between the Knicks 'big 3' they went a 5-16 combined from 3, yet the team still shot nearly 40% for the game.

It just goes to show the impact OG has on defense so much so that the team can overcome a tough shooting night from deep from the top players and still comfortably handle a very good team. Having a top tier wing defender which pushes down all the other defenders one spot has transformed the Knicks defense.


Take out Brunson because he was 1-2 which is good. Arci GT 0-1 should be ignored. Then it was 4-14 from Randle/OG and the rest of the team shot great. 13-23


No, I'm going to keep Brunson in there because even though I know that 50% is good but he didn't shoot it much from 3 combined with the poor shooting from deep of the other two makes it like I said. Not a great night shooting the 3ball from the Knicks 'big 3' and they still smoked the Nugs...because the defense was so good. Yea, the ball movement has been amazing, too, can't dismiss that either.

The Knicks can win many different ways, from bully ball to penetrating PG play to bombing from deep to suffocating defense, it's not as simple as shutting down one aspect of the game with them because they do it in so many different ways.

Knicks fans often whine about the limited role the centers play in Thibs system and pine for one of the modern stretch bigs. Yet it's so interesting how he can get effective play out of the old school bigs style of play. We're even seeing Precious figure out that he doesn't need to do too much, just those things Thibs wants from him and he's starting to show out a little even if he was an afterthought in the trade.
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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#372 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:38 pm

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The underrated thing is that Deuce is actually a good shooter. he is shooting 46% from deep right now. He can't penetrate and devastate like IQ for 2 (and1), but those 3's have been huge.


IQ was not a penetrating guard though. His floater was his escape valve more often than not. He would get going but usually hit a wall and had to bring it back out.

He had the floater and he had those herky-jerky draw the foul moves. If Deuce doesn't have an easy dunk, he has a hard time finishing for two. Also the way he shoots ... slow release ... isn't great for any sort of midrange.


I agree on all points but, IQ was not a devastating penetrating guard. He struggled with it a lot. He was all about spacing/range from the three more than anything else he did. He was pretty good at drawing fouls too though because you had to respect the three and he would get that step on the defense. Not saying he was bad at it but, he was not devastating IMO.

Deuce is small. You see him implementing the footwork of Brunson ambit though and he does use it to get off the occasional middy. He is definitely improving and his defense is great for such a small player.
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Post#373 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:50 pm

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stuporman wrote:Sheesh...OG shot 3-9 from 3 last night and I literally didn't notice it until I looked over the box score this afternoon to catch a few things that I didn't see during the game. Between the Knicks 'big 3' they went a 5-16 combined from 3, yet the team still shot nearly 40% for the game.

It just goes to show the impact OG has on defense so much so that the team can overcome a tough shooting night from deep from the top players and still comfortably handle a very good team. Having a top tier wing defender which pushes down all the other defenders one spot has transformed the Knicks defense.


Take out Brunson because he was 1-2 which is good. Arci GT 0-1 should be ignored. Then it was 4-14 from Randle/OG and the rest of the team shot great. 13-23


No, I'm going to keep Brunson in there because even though I know that 50% is good but he didn't shoot it much from 3 combined with the poor shooting from deep of the other two makes it like I said. Not a great night shooting the 3ball from the Knicks 'big 3' and they still smoked the Nugs...because the defense was so good. Yea, the ball movement has been amazing, too, can't dismiss that either.

The Knicks can win many different ways, from bully ball to penetrating PG play to bombing from deep to suffocating defense, it's not as simple as shutting down one aspect of the game with them because they do it in so many different ways.

Knicks fans often whine about the limited role the centers play in Thibs system and pine for one of the modern stretch bigs. Yet it's so interesting how he can get effective play out of the old school bigs style of play. We're even seeing Precious figure out that he doesn't need to do too much, just those things Thibs wants from him and he's starting to show out a little even if he was an afterthought in the trade.


I only said that because 1-2 is not poor shooting. 3-9 is not great but the only poor shooting was Randle 1-5.

Agree with the rest. Thibs is a maniac but, every once in a blue it looks like he actually made good coaching decisions. :lol: It's ugly but we get results. The big concern is running the players into the ground.
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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#374 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:53 pm

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That Dallas game is Silver/refs having us re-pay Dallas for stealing Brunson. I have never seen such a poorly officiated game.


The Dallas game was poor coaching. Waiting until the final 2-3 minutes to double/trap Kyrie was ridiculous. Had Thibs thought of the most obvious issue earlier we win that game.
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Post#375 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:07 am

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Besart19 wrote:OG on defense is a mix of Pippen, Sprewell, Bowen, Marion and Kawhi... with elements of Rodman, George, Prince, Christie and Johnson

Brunson on offense is a mix of Hakeem, Ginobili, Iverson, Sprewell and Billups... also elements of Kobe, Dirk, Doncic, Melo and Pierce


Brunson's paint footwork reminds me somewhat of Penny Hardaway. That move he torched Denver with last night was disgusting

He had that one drive on Aaron Gordon that fooled Gordon but didn't finish. That would've been a highlight for sure.


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Post#376 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:16 am

I was just thinking about how much of a coup it will be if Precious can continue to be a positive contributor. The trade continues to tilt in the Knicks' favor.

I didn't want to say it at the time, because i know folks have love for IQ, but OG's impact is damn near historic, and it was worth cashing in on IQ and RJ as assets. I can't remember the last time a non all star level player joined a team via trade that changed a team dynamic so drastically. This feels like an entirely different team now. Very high level basketball, and let's not discount Randle's leadership either. He was out there trying to cave in Aaron Gordon's chest last night instead of settling. Gotta just hope that the bigs can return sooner than later.
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Post#377 » by F N 11 » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:18 am

stuporman wrote:Sheesh...OG shot 3-9 from 3 last night and I literally didn't notice it until I looked over the box score this afternoon to catch a few things that I didn't see during the game. Between the Knicks 'big 3' they went a 5-16 combined from 3, yet the team still shot nearly 40% for the game.

It just goes to show the impact OG has on defense so much so that the team can overcome a tough shooting night from deep from the top players and still comfortably handle a very good team. Having a top tier wing defender which pushes down all the other defenders one spot has transformed the Knicks defense.

Missed some easy looks. Like very easy but made tough shots and stayed aggressive. Very encouraging..
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Post#378 » by Iron Mantis » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:22 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I was just thinking about how much of a coup it will be if Precious can continue to be a positive contributor. The trade continues to tilt in the Knicks' favor.

I didn't want to say it at the time, because i know folks have love for IQ, but OG's impact is damn near historic, and it was worth cashing in on IQ and RJ as assets. I can't remember the last time a non all star level player joined a team via trade that changed a team dynamic so drastically. This feels like an entirely different team now. Very high level basketball, and let's not discount Randle's leadership either. He was out there trying to cave in Aaron Gordon's chest last night instead of settling. Gotta just hope that the bigs can return sooner than later.

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Post#379 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:23 am

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pointing out simple facts is defensive now ok then

Let me put it another way

If you take the 15 attempts by the 30 played minutes that he had and calculate the per 36 stat it’s 18 attempts per 36. On the season he averages 18.5 attempts per 36. So nothing really changed about what he did other than your perception of it. I’m known to be a Randle fan so you can discard what I’m saying on that basis but it doesn’t change reality


You're still prowling to make rebuttals about Randle even when someone says he was great and it was one of his best games as a Knick

just want to jump in and say, from my pov, it's not about him attempting less, it's about him playing within the flow. randle really thrives on flow, which is ironic given his tendency to turn the faucet down. his journey this season has been learning that he can be a leader and top scorer on this team without doing that. last night was a shining example. gives me greater hopes for his playoff performance this year


Agreed

It was very encouraging as this is his path to success in the playoffs IMO
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Re: pg: we fleeced masai 

Post#380 » by Besart19 » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:25 am

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Besart19 wrote:OG on defense is a mix of Pippen, Sprewell, Bowen, Marion and Kawhi... with elements of Rodman, George, Prince, Christie and Johnson

Brunson on offense is a mix of Hakeem, Ginobili, Iverson, Sprewell and Billups... also elements of Kobe, Dirk, Doncic, Melo and Pierce


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