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Re: PG: KNICKS slay The Wolves 

Post#361 » by RHODEY » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:05 pm

Let's talk about OG ...I was told his offensive bag resembled OAK's :D

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Post#362 » by Tomato Sauce » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:11 pm

RHODEY wrote:Let's talk about OG ...I was told his offensive bag resembled OAK's :D

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I hope his athleticism comes back, because his lift/explosion seem to be a fraction of what it was.
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Post#363 » by knicks94 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:17 pm

The Knicks have 4 guys that can carry an offense on any given night. I cannot remember a Knicks team that had that luxury!
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Post#364 » by NYKinMIA » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:29 pm

gawd damnit, I came here to read about how we played.

instead it's days of our lives in this bitch.
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Post#365 » by bballoctober » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:31 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Thibs probably wanted Mikal and once we got him, it forced Donte to the bench. Donte was probably not happy with this as he believed Thibs would have his back after the season he had for him. Then when KAT became available, Thibs chose to keep Mitch and let Donte be included in the trade. Just guessing here.

If Donte was still here, I believe he still be in the starting lineup in Hart’s place.
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Post#366 » by Jay10 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:33 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:The end of that game just ruined the vibe from the win. I don't know what happened to cause that rift but, Donte clearly isn't happy about the trade. Seemed like one of the staff had beef with Randle too. Just an ugly divorce going on here.

It sucks because DDV was a big part of the fun and good vibes last year. Part of the grit and grind makeup we had. Shart really detonated all of that by taking the bag from OKC? I hope he fails miserably over there and I hope Donte has a shyt season/career after this.


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2 years, 60 million is better than 4 years 72 million lol. He goes back into free agency a whole two years earlier, after the new tv money comes in.


I'm referring to him possibly having to move again, if OKC decides Chet is ready to play at the center position full time.
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Post#367 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:33 pm

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Post#368 » by stuporman » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:33 pm

OG and MB are going to be the complementary offensive players with Brunson and KAT leading the way so from game to game the former outputs will vary depending on matchups and game flow.

Yet, I expect fans to be predictably bipolar in their reactions with this game to game output because they have no emotional control or logical understanding of what's going on.
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Post#370 » by mpharris36 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:38 pm

stuporman wrote:OG and MB are going to be the complementary offensive players with Brunson and KAT leading the way so from game to game the former outputs will vary depending on matchups and game flow.

Yet, I expect fans to be predictably bipolar in their reactions with this game to game output because they have no emotional control or logical understanding of what's going on.


yeah there are some wild takes about Mikal not fitting and it was a bad trade. Like Brunson and KAT are going to be option 1 and 2. There will be games OG has it going as the secondary scorer and there will be games that Mikal will be a secondary scorer.

It will also look different because we are trying to build chemistry with the starters but Thibs isn't playing a 10 man rotation when the season starts it will be 9 and likely 8 guys playing a majority of the minutes. This means when Brunson or KAT goes to the bench other guys will get more looks.

Even with all that said Mikal had an efficient 15 pts on 11 shots and was a team high +13.

Bosh went from a guy that scored 22-25 ppg to a guy that was scoring 17-18 ppg. The 3rd option will always have to sacrifice when you have two elite offensive options in front of you. The great thing about guys like Mikal and OG is they dont' have ego's and they also impact and effect the game without scoring as well. Which makes them great complimentary pieces for us.
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Post#371 » by Synciere » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:46 pm

Gravy wrote:All this drama is to distract you from the fact that Sims fouled out of a preseason game off the bench.


And a job well done if you ask me. Someone has to save KAT from himself.
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Post#372 » by stuporman » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:48 pm

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stuporman wrote:OG and MB are going to be the complementary offensive players with Brunson and KAT leading the way so from game to game the former outputs will vary depending on matchups and game flow.

Yet, I expect fans to be predictably bipolar in their reactions with this game to game output because they have no emotional control or logical understanding of what's going on.


yeah there are some wild takes about Mikal not fitting and it was a bad trade. Like Brunson and KAT are going to be option 1 and 2. There will be games OG has it going as the secondary scorer and there will be games that Mikal will be a secondary scorer.

It will also look different because we are trying to build chemistry with the starters but Thibs isn't playing a 10 man rotation when the season starts it will be 9 and likely 8 guys playing a majority of the minutes. This means when Brunson or KAT goes to the bench other guys will get more looks.

Even with all that said Mikal had an efficient 15 pts on 11 shots and was a team high +13.

Bosh went from a guy that scored 22-25 ppg to a guy that was scoring 17-18 ppg. The 3rd option will always have to sacrifice when you have two elite offensive options in front of you. The great thing about guys like Mikal and OG is they dont' have ego's and they also impact and effect the game without scoring as well. Which makes them great complimentary pieces for us.


I'm sure for MB there will be a big shadow of the picks that were given up for him which will be cast onto his offensive numbers for fans to obsess over. There isn't that for OG and it's something that MB will have to endure from a fan perception fair or not.

They will want those numbers to be relative to the 'star' package given up for him without actually recognizing the context of his presence on both ends of the floor and the team wide impact having another elite wing defender next to an already existing one.

Even more important is the important role he will be playing when OG misses his usual games throughout the season. Bridges will be there to take on the top guard/wing option on opposing teams while also being that complementary offensive option.
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Post#373 » by JayTWill » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:48 pm

knicks94 wrote:The Knicks have 4 guys that can carry an offense on any given night. I cannot remember a Knicks team that had that luxury!


2024 - Brunson, KAT, Mikal, OG?
2023 - Brunson, Randle, RJ, IQ, DDV?
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Post#374 » by knicks94 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:53 pm

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knicks94 wrote:The Knicks have 4 guys that can carry an offense on any given night. I cannot remember a Knicks team that had that luxury!


2024 - Brunson, KAT, Mikal, OG?
2023 - Brunson, Randle, RJ, IQ, DDV?

You might be right! I completely forgot about IQ.
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Post#375 » by mpharris36 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 4:54 pm

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stuporman wrote:OG and MB are going to be the complementary offensive players with Brunson and KAT leading the way so from game to game the former outputs will vary depending on matchups and game flow.

Yet, I expect fans to be predictably bipolar in their reactions with this game to game output because they have no emotional control or logical understanding of what's going on.


yeah there are some wild takes about Mikal not fitting and it was a bad trade. Like Brunson and KAT are going to be option 1 and 2. There will be games OG has it going as the secondary scorer and there will be games that Mikal will be a secondary scorer.

It will also look different because we are trying to build chemistry with the starters but Thibs isn't playing a 10 man rotation when the season starts it will be 9 and likely 8 guys playing a majority of the minutes. This means when Brunson or KAT goes to the bench other guys will get more looks.

Even with all that said Mikal had an efficient 15 pts on 11 shots and was a team high +13.

Bosh went from a guy that scored 22-25 ppg to a guy that was scoring 17-18 ppg. The 3rd option will always have to sacrifice when you have two elite offensive options in front of you. The great thing about guys like Mikal and OG is they dont' have ego's and they also impact and effect the game without scoring as well. Which makes them great complimentary pieces for us.


I'm sure for MB there will be a big shadow of the picks that were given up for him which will be cast onto his offensive numbers for fans to obsess over. There isn't that for OG and it's soemthing that MB will have to endure from a fan perception fair or not.

They will want those numbers to be relative to the 'star' package given up for him without actually recognizing the context of his presence on both ends of the floor and the team wide impact having another elite wing defender next to an already existing one.

Even more important is the important role he will be playing when OG misses his usual games throughout the season. Bridges will be there to take on the top guard/wing option on opposing teams while also being that complementary offensive option.


Yeah we also gave zero rotational players in the bridges trade and it was just picks and mostly our own. People see the 5 picks and freak out...I get it. But 40% of the picks will convey this year. With our pick and MIL and there is a very high likelyhood of both pick being in the mid to late 20's.

So now we are basically worrying about 3 future 1st round picks.

2029 and 2031 are really the only potential impact picks in my eyes. But if we win it won't matter.

I keep saying people overrated our picks package because it was a bunch of protected picks and our own picks...and the first 5-6 years of those picks after a trade probably aren't going to be valuable...its the later picks that have a potential to be bigger value.

But this idea we could have landed a top 10-20 type talent with that pick package is crazy to me especially when you are giving up no young players in it as well.

We probably could have acquired a better scoring type player but is that really what you want when Brunson rightfully dominates the ball because he is so good with it. You want guys that excel playing off him.
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Post#376 » by Context » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:12 pm

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Post#377 » by Ma10 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:12 pm

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RHODEY wrote:Let's talk about OG ...I was told his offensive bag resembled OAK's :D

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I hope his athleticism comes back, because his lift/explosion seem to be a fraction of what it was.

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Post#378 » by stuporman » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:15 pm

There's a clear difference between score alot and carry an offense, Brunson can, KAT can, Randle could even if problematic at it. IQ might get there one day but isn't there yet, RJ was kinda close to it but not really, DD can score alot but there's no way you can say they could carry an offense, it takes a special combination of varied scoring and passing ability that few possess.
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Post#380 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:22 pm

knicks94 wrote:
JayTWill wrote:
knicks94 wrote:The Knicks have 4 guys that can carry an offense on any given night. I cannot remember a Knicks team that had that luxury!


2024 - Brunson, KAT, Mikal, OG?
2023 - Brunson, Randle, RJ, IQ, DDV?

You might be right! I completely forgot about IQ.


We have a team of unselfish players that can score and defend. This team has elite players on both sides of the ball. That 2023 team did not.

Also...that team barely played together. Donte was a bench player until the trade. Then a month later Randle was gone. So, not really worth mentioning.
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