PG: Knicks vs. Thunder: BELT-TO-ASS GAME

[Gravy]

Who? Everyone keeps saying the bench needs to play regardless, because we want to keep the starters fresh. You keep saying over and over again that random Boogeyman posters are saying we have the 2016 Warriors bench, because you need to misrepresent things just to defend your lord and savior. The starters got destroyed in this game, but that is the bench's fault?


Mikal and OG have dead legs, the team as a whole have dead legs which is why we cannot shoot now. Mikal from November 1st to Jan 1st averaged 40mpg, Jimmy Butler literally asked out of the all-star game because he averaged 37mpg and had tired legs playing for Thibs. You no doubt defended the absurd minutes these guys were playing, and now you're trying your hardest to deflect from the results of doing it.

Yep, the starters should be playing less than 30mpg like the new flavor of the month coach Daigneault. Our roster is exactly as talented as theirs right? Evil Thibs is playing them 37 minutes for no reason at all because the bench is awesome. We got people here saying Kolek is better than Brunson . You promised us for years the next coach will be a Steve Kerr and make everything right. Whenever they make that change I'll be waiting for it all to be fixed and win championships

Why would you make up stuff like that Gravy?

Nobody said anything about Kolek being better than Brunson. It is being said Kolek needs minutes and that his more traditional PG skills would be good to have on the floor part of the game. Kolek is already a good player who is far and above the best backup PG on the team. He's a better PG than Payne or Deuce.

People have been telling me nobody thinks the bench is good, but you are saying Kolek is a good player that is far better than Deuce and Payne. Another guy is posting Hukporti clips. Sure man, Thibs is holding these kids back from greatness once again.

[The KnicksFix]

This team has issues that are beyond Thibs

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It will be a moment of clarity when everyone realizes the ego he is talking about is thibs and his ridiculous stubbornness and unwillingness to change and adapt

Insane never thought about it like this.

Yep, I dont think Hart is talking about Brunson here. It’s Thibs

[3toheadmelo]

You all are focusing on thibs when Mikal has been trash on defense and his 3 ball is gone

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[Clyde_Style]

Yep, the starters should be playing less than 30mpg like the new flavor of the month coach Daigneault. Our roster is exactly as talented as theirs right? Evil Thibs is playing them 37 minutes for no reason at all because the bench is awesome. We got people here saying Kolek is better than Brunson . You promised us for years the next coach will be a Steve Kerr and make everything right. Whenever they make that change I'll be waiting for it all to be fixed and win championships

Why would you make up stuff like that Gravy?

Nobody said anything about Kolek being better than Brunson. It is being said Kolek needs minutes and that his more traditional PG skills would be good to have on the floor part of the game. Kolek is already a good player who is far and above the best backup PG on the team. He's a better PG than Payne or Deuce.

People have been telling me nobody thinks the bench is good, but you are saying Kolek is a good player that is far better than Deuce and Payne. Another guy is posting Hukporti clips. Sure man, Thibs is holding these kids back from greatness once again.

Cool story. I don't think you have any actual thoughts to contribute other than your position is Thibs is fine and our bench sucks.

You clearly have not watched as much Knicks ball this season as most of the people posting here, because anyone who has understands how skilled Kolek is as a PG.

Next time, don't lie to make your case

[NoDopeOnSundays]

You all are focusing on thibs when Mikal has been trash on defense and his 3 ball is gone

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Who played Mikal 40.4 mpg for the month of December? There's a cause an effect at play here, who is in charge of his playing time?

[DaGawd]

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to be fair it’s plausible to wonder if the minutes are partly causing him to have short legs on his shots

[3toheadmelo]

You all are focusing on thibs when Mikal has been trash on defense and his 3 ball is gone

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Who played Mikal 40.4 mpg for the month of December? There's a cause an effect at play here, who is in charge of his playing time?

Why cant you just let me trash mikal without involving thibs

[NoDopeOnSundays]

You all are focusing on thibs when Mikal has been trash on defense and his 3 ball is gone

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Who played Mikal 40.4 mpg for the month of December? There's a cause an effect at play here, who is in charge of his playing time?

Why cant you just let me trash mikal without involving thibs

Because Thibs is a terrorist and Mikal is a victim of his.

[Fury]

You all are focusing on thibs when Mikal has been trash on defense and his 3 ball is gone

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He’s been really bad too.

Doesn’t have to be an either or.

[3toheadmelo]

Who played Mikal 40.4 mpg for the month of December? There's a cause an effect at play here, who is in charge of his playing time?

Why cant you just let me trash mikal without involving thibs

Because Thibs is a terrorist and Mikal is a victim of his.

Thibs didn't coach him last year in brooklyn when he was awful there though. This is who mikal is.

[Clyde_Style]

You all are focusing on thibs when Mikal has been trash on defense and his 3 ball is gone

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Who played Mikal 40.4 mpg for the month of December? There's a cause an effect at play here, who is in charge of his playing time?

He was player of the month in December

When there is a drop-off of this magnitude the cause and effect of playing the most minutes in the NBA does correlate

And, again, guys do look checked out, besides being gassed

Thibs is losing the team

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Why cant you just let me trash mikal without involving thibs

Because Thibs is a terrorist and Mikal is a victim of his.

Thibs didn't coach him last year in brooklyn when he was awful there though. This is who mikal is.

He was more efficient on a per minute basis last year, averaged more ppg in less minutes and shot better from three last season. He's at a career high in minutes, career low from three and looks ragged out there. The team can't make threes anymore after playing the entire month of December like it was the NBA finals. This is stage 1 of the Thibs plan to topple ACLs, stage 2 is somebody important gets injured and that will be our 9/11, because it'll be an injury that bleeds into next season.

You need to turn away from the false teachings of Tomsama Bin Thibsden

[3toheadmelo]

Because Thibs is a terrorist and Mikal is a victim of his.

Thibs didn't coach him last year in brooklyn when he was awful there though. This is who mikal is.

He was more efficient on a per minute basis last year, averaged more ppg in less minutes and shot better from three last season. He's at a career high in minutes, career low from three and looks ragged out there. The team can't make threes anymore after playing the entire month of December like it was the NBA finals. This is stage 1 of the Thibs plan to topple ACLs, stage 2 is somebody important gets injured and that will be our 9/11, because it'll be an injury that bleeds into next season.

You need to turn away from the false teachings of Tomsama Bin Thibsden

He played zero defense last season like he is this year

[GettinitDone]

Yep, the starters should be playing less than 30mpg like the new flavor of the month coach Daigneault. Our roster is exactly as talented as theirs right? Evil Thibs is playing them 37 minutes for no reason at all because the bench is awesome. We got people here saying Kolek is better than Brunson . You promised us for years the next coach will be a Steve Kerr and make everything right. Whenever they make that change I'll be waiting for it all to be fixed and win championships

Why would you make up stuff like that Gravy?

Nobody said anything about Kolek being better than Brunson. It is being said Kolek needs minutes and that his more traditional PG skills would be good to have on the floor part of the game. Kolek is already a good player who is far and above the best backup PG on the team. He's a better PG than Payne or Deuce.

People have been telling me nobody thinks the bench is good, but you are saying Kolek is a good player that is far better than Deuce and Payne. Another guy is posting Hukporti clips. Sure man, Thibs is holding these kids back from greatness once again.

Of course Thibs is holding the kids back

Just as he once held Deuce back (I'm sure you're one of the many guys who thought Deuce wasn't an NBA player) and then we traded IQ to Toronto, so all of a sudden Deuce just magically showed the ability to play ball immediately? No he HAD the ability all along but didn't get the mins and TRUST to build confidence needed to play the game.

Just as he held back Divo (before he replaced Grimes in SL with him) and iHart (before Mitch got hurt and he had to start him)

Just as he held back Burks (DNP-CDd him for a month, then when everyone got hurt, he had no choice but to play him, and Burks got loose with a few 20+ pt games)

Look as a head coach you can hold back ANY player, you give a prime Michael Jordan 10 mins combined in 15 games and random consecutive 15 DNP-CDs, he'd look like a **** player too

[Iron Mantis]

Problem is, he just got paid. He's our Aaron Rogers now.

That won't be the issue.

Dolan ate Phil's $50M contract without batting an eyelash

A successful team is worth more to Dolan than the cost of taking a hit on Thibs deal

I agree, I don’t get why some fans think just because he got an extension that he can’t get fired. Larry Brown inked a 40 million dollar extension, and was promptly fired, with arbitration he was eventually paid 18.5 of that 40 mil. Just think about that. He was paid 18.5 million to not coach them.

As was already mentioned, Kings coach was extended this summer, then fired 2 weeks ago.

Since then, the Kings have gone on a 6 game winning streak, beating Golden State, Memphis, Dallas, Boston, Miami, Philly.

When a coach has maxed out his potential with a team, can't be scared to stand on business and move on.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Thibs didn't coach him last year in brooklyn when he was awful there though. This is who mikal is.

He was more efficient on a per minute basis last year, averaged more ppg in less minutes and shot better from three last season. He's at a career high in minutes, career low from three and looks ragged out there. The team can't make threes anymore after playing the entire month of December like it was the NBA finals. This is stage 1 of the Thibs plan to topple ACLs, stage 2 is somebody important gets injured and that will be our 9/11, because it'll be an injury that bleeds into next season.

You need to turn away from the false teachings of Tomsama Bin Thibsden

He played zero defense last season like he is this year

OG been getting cooked lately too, those Thibs miles adding up fast.

[Clyde_Style]

That won't be the issue.

Dolan ate Phil's $50M contract without batting an eyelash

A successful team is worth more to Dolan than the cost of taking a hit on Thibs deal

I agree, I don’t get why some fans think just because he got an extension that he can’t get fired. Larry Brown inked a 40 million dollar extension, and was promptly fired, with arbitration he was eventually paid 18.5 of that 40 mil. Just think about that. He was paid 18.5 million to not coach them.

As was already mentioned, Kings coach was extended this summer, then fired 2 weeks ago.

Since then, the Kings have gone on a 6 game winning streak, beating Golden State, Memphis, Dallas, Boston, Miami, Philly.

When a coach has maxed out his potential with a team, can't be scared to stand on business and move on.

This FO appears more capable than past Knicks FO's of maintaining good relations around the league based on the way they've handled player contracts and done the right thing to stay in the good graces of their agents.

From that POV, I don't think anyone will think the Knicks did Thibs dirty if they remove him which is the reputational fallout I think Rose tends to value most. People will understand the reason why and it won't harm the franchise's improved reputation as a good place to work at or do business with.

If we stumble our way back to a .500 record it can happen during the season. We're too talented to be that mid. I'd say we should be contenders with our existing roster and if the FO thinks so too then Thibs will be at risk if he can't get everyone back on the same page soon. And if Thibs keeps playing the starters 40 minutes the wheels will continue to fall off rapidly and he'll be shown the door.

[3toheadmelo]

He was more efficient on a per minute basis last year, averaged more ppg in less minutes and shot better from three last season. He's at a career high in minutes, career low from three and looks ragged out there. The team can't make threes anymore after playing the entire month of December like it was the NBA finals. This is stage 1 of the Thibs plan to topple ACLs, stage 2 is somebody important gets injured and that will be our 9/11, because it'll be an injury that bleeds into next season.

You need to turn away from the false teachings of Tomsama Bin Thibsden

He played zero defense last season like he is this year

OG been getting cooked lately too, those Thibs miles adding up fast.

But my point is that Mikal has been awful on defense for the past couple of years. That's not thib's fault

We overpaid big time for Mikal. It made way more sense to keep Grimes and let him be our 2 guard for the future. Mikal has done nothing for us besides winning us a christmas game. Im ready to trade him.

[Kampuchea]

Clyde here doing a book signing I just walked by him, wearing some wild suit as usual. Some animal print

Winning and Grinning book, he’s at American Dream in NJ