Reign23 wrote:damn we did reject KD. nice. good decision.
Dolan still has hard feelings over being rejected by KD and Kyrie.

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Reign23 wrote:damn we did reject KD. nice. good decision.
god shammgod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Fury wrote:?s=46&t=H2ki0687ILNfmIp5nctWVg
Think the suns were asking for too much and the Knicks walked away. It is what it is
it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it
but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.
spree2kawhi wrote:god shammgod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Think the suns were asking for too much and the Knicks walked away. It is what it is
it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it
but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.
We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.
god shammgod wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:god shammgod wrote:
it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it
but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.
We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.
i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.
as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.
if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.
i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.
as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.
if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.
I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.
You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too
KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.
If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?
KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.
i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.
as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.
if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.
I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.
You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too
KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.
If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?
KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.
spree2kawhi wrote:mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:
i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.
as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.
if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.
I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.
You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too
KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.
If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?
KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.
Most importantly, we were relying too much on 1-on-1 offense. They can be a lot better. I think this team deserves another shot at it, especially given the lack of (any real) alternatives.
spree2kawhi wrote:god shammgod wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Think the suns were asking for too much and the Knicks walked away. It is what it is
it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it
but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.
We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.
spree2kawhi wrote:sol537 wrote:KnicksinSix has the biggest hard on for JJJ and... I'm here for it.
3-way with OG/Hart going out and then JJJ and other pieces coming in would be most welcomed.
Is he better than OG? I don’t really think so. He is good, he’d be perfect next to Towns here, but he, too, is inconsistent.
Jalen Bluntson wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.
You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too
KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.
If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?
KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.
Most importantly, we were relying too much on 1-on-1 offense. They can be a lot better. I think this team deserves another shot at it, especially given the lack of (any real) alternatives.
Yeah. Let's see what the next HC can do with this roster. We all know there was zero game plan on offense for this team and the defense was one dimensional as well. A new HC may play to the strengths of the roster instead of forcing square pegs into round holes all year.
RHODEY wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:sol537 wrote:KnicksinSix has the biggest hard on for JJJ and... I'm here for it.
3-way with OG/Hart going out and then JJJ and other pieces coming in would be most welcomed.
Is he better than OG? I don’t really think so. He is good, he’d be perfect next to Towns here, but he, too, is inconsistent.
He's an Allstar, former DPOY, shoots 48%FG. 37+ 3pt, dropped over 22 ppg last season, only 25, best player on a near 50 win western playoff team...in what context is he inconsistent?
KnixinSix wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Most importantly, we were relying too much on 1-on-1 offense. They can be a lot better. I think this team deserves another shot at it, especially given the lack of (any real) alternatives.
Yeah. Let's see what the next HC can do with this roster. We all know there was zero game plan on offense for this team and the defense was one dimensional as well. A new HC may play to the strengths of the roster instead of forcing square pegs into round holes all year.
The KAT and Mouse game with KAT and Jaren would be really fun to watch under a better offensive coach.
Brunson and Divo doing the Nova Knick thing in the back court like its 2024.
OG the glue holding it all together with timely 3s , steals and back cuts to the hoop.
Deeeez Knicks wrote:KDs age and contract just make him a tough sell over KAT. Chances are that trade would have left us in a really bad spot if we don't win it all
Juco24 wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:KDs age and contract just make him a tough sell over KAT. Chances are that trade would have left us in a really bad spot if we don't win it all
Left us with a crippled future and probably no championship