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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2 

Post#361 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:10 pm

Reign23 wrote:damn we did reject KD. nice. good decision.


Dolan still has hard feelings over being rejected by KD and Kyrie. :lol:
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Post#362 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:11 pm

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Think the suns were asking for too much and the Knicks walked away. It is what it is


it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it

but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.

We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.
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Post#363 » by god shammgod » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:17 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Think the suns were asking for too much and the Knicks walked away. It is what it is


it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it

but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.

We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.


i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.

as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.

if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.
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Post#364 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:22 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it

but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.

We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.


i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.

as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.

if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.


I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.

You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too

KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.

If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?

KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.
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Post#365 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:26 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.


i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.

as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.

if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.


I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.

You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too

KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.

If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?

KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.

Most importantly, we were relying too much on 1-on-1 offense. They can be a lot better. I think this team deserves another shot at it, especially given the lack of (any real) alternatives.
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Post#367 » by god shammgod » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:31 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.


i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.

as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.

if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.


I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.

You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too

KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense
but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.

If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?

KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.


i don't agree with this. I think history has shown that teams where he plays center have a ceiling. i'm hoping they're not gonna start him there next year again. my guess is they won't because playing that failing starting lineup seemed to be a point of contention between thibs and management. they supposedly wanted mitch to start during the boston series. and duece/brunson are just too small to start together in the backcourt.

and yes they should get another big even if they keep kat. but how ? they really have little to no money to spend. they also need more playmaking and shooting in the starting lineup. they can't fix it all with the pieces they have. so i continue to think that there have to be roster changes and one of mikal or kat has to be the guy to go to make that happen. and i don't think mikal can be traded for a similar level player as easily as kat can right now.
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Post#368 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:32 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.

as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.

if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.


I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.

You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too

KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.

If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?

KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.

Most importantly, we were relying too much on 1-on-1 offense. They can be a lot better. I think this team deserves another shot at it, especially given the lack of (any real) alternatives.


Yeah. Let's see what the next HC can do with this roster. We all know there was zero game plan on offense for this team and the defense was one dimensional as well. A new HC may play to the strengths of the roster instead of forcing square pegs into round holes all year.
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Post#369 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:43 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Think the suns were asking for too much and the Knicks walked away. It is what it is


it's possible they didn't want to trade kat. and there really is no other trade to make. at his age it is risky. i'll admit it

but i really don't think kat/brunson works great as a pairing no matter who is the coach. i wouldn't want to waste another year trying to get them to mesh. especially not next year with the east this open. there's no certainty it will last. other teams are gonna get better. look at orlando. they just took a step forward. we can't just pencil ourselves into the conference finals for the next 5 years. it don't work like that.

We all know that, but I doubt Durant would move the needle at all. What’s more, even in theory there simply aren’t many top players you could put next to Brunson instead of KAT and be certain to receive far better results. Giannis certainly is one, Edwards, Wemby, Banchero, I guess, and maybe AD. Who else? Just trying to put in perspective what we have here.


Knicks were never interested. JJJ or Giannis is Plan A. Kidd is Plan A for coach.
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Post#370 » by Enzo954 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:36 pm

Love how cry baby KD wanted the Knicks, but we slammed the door in his face!

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Post#371 » by RHODEY » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:45 pm

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sol537 wrote:KnicksinSix has the biggest hard on for JJJ and... I'm here for it.

3-way with OG/Hart going out and then JJJ and other pieces coming in would be most welcomed.

Is he better than OG? I don’t really think so. He is good, he’d be perfect next to Towns here, but he, too, is inconsistent.

He's an Allstar, former DPOY, shoots 48%FG. 37+ 3pt, dropped over 22 ppg last season, only 25, best player on a near 50 win western playoff team...in what context is he inconsistent?
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Post#372 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:50 pm

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I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.

You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too

KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.

If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?

KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.

Most importantly, we were relying too much on 1-on-1 offense. They can be a lot better. I think this team deserves another shot at it, especially given the lack of (any real) alternatives.


Yeah. Let's see what the next HC can do with this roster. We all know there was zero game plan on offense for this team and the defense was one dimensional as well. A new HC may play to the strengths of the roster instead of forcing square pegs into round holes all year.


The KAT and Mouse game with KAT and Jaren would be really fun to watch under a better offensive coach.

Brunson and Divo doing the Nova Knick thing in the back court like its 2024.

OG the glue holding it all together with timely 3s , steals and back cuts to the hoop.
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Post#373 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:52 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:
sol537 wrote:KnicksinSix has the biggest hard on for JJJ and... I'm here for it.

3-way with OG/Hart going out and then JJJ and other pieces coming in would be most welcomed.

Is he better than OG? I don’t really think so. He is good, he’d be perfect next to Towns here, but he, too, is inconsistent.

He's an Allstar, former DPOY, shoots 48%FG. 37+ 3pt, dropped over 22 ppg last season, only 25, best player on a near 50 win western playoff team...in what context is he inconsistent?


You just highlighted why it's doubtful (I didn't say 100% impossible) they move him in a trade. They only have him and Ja Morant as stars left to build around and sell to their fanbase.
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Post#374 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:58 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:Most importantly, we were relying too much on 1-on-1 offense. They can be a lot better. I think this team deserves another shot at it, especially given the lack of (any real) alternatives.


Yeah. Let's see what the next HC can do with this roster. We all know there was zero game plan on offense for this team and the defense was one dimensional as well. A new HC may play to the strengths of the roster instead of forcing square pegs into round holes all year.


The KAT and Mouse game with KAT and Jaren would be really fun to watch under a better offensive coach.

Brunson and Divo doing the Nova Knick thing in the back court like its 2024.

OG the glue holding it all together with timely 3s , steals and back cuts to the hoop.


:lol: Leon in here telling us his plans the last two seasons!! Now we're getting Divo and JJJ!! Book it!
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Post#375 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:04 pm

KDs age and contract just make him a tough sell over KAT. Chances are that trade would have left us in a really bad spot if we don't win it all
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Post#376 » by Rodimus921 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:10 pm

I think Quentin Grimes is the perfect starting shooting guard to complement Jalen Brunson. He was able to get minutes and develop his game after being traded for a break out season in the 2024-2025 campaign . He could be poors man Devin Booker.

I asked AI if Quentin Grimes is any good and AI said ..,,


Quentin Grimes good?
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Yes, Quentin Grimes has shown significant improvement and potential, particularly since joining the 76ers. While previously considered a solid role player, he's displayed a newfound offensive explosiveness and scoring prowess, leading to discussions about a potential breakout season.

Here's a more detailed look:

Positive Developments:

Improved Scoring:
Grimes has demonstrated a much more aggressive scoring ability, taking more shots, driving to the basket, and hitting pull-up jumpers.

Increased Efficiency:
He's not only scoring more but also doing so at a higher efficiency, hitting a good percentage of his shots overall and from three-point range.

All-Around Offense:
Grimes has shown a more versatile offensive game, including creating his own shot and making plays for others, not just being a spot-up shooter.

Defensive Impact:
Grimes has a strong defensive reputation, with good footwork, active hands, and ability to navigate screens.

Breakout Potential:
His recent performance has sparked conversations about a potential breakout, with some comparing him to players who had late-career ascensions.

Leadership Qualities:
Grimes has also shown leadership qualities, encouraging his teammates and taking on an assertive role.

Areas of Consideration:
Sustainability:
Some wonder if his recent scoring surge is a temporary hot streak or a sustainable part of his game.

Role on a Strong Team:
While he's thrived in a more prominent role with the 76ers, it remains to be seen how he'll fit on a fully healthy and established team, like the Mavericks.

In Conclusion:
Quentin Grimes has undeniably improved his game and shown the potential to be a valuable player. His recent performance has been impressive, and while questions remain about consistency and fit on a championship-level team, he is definitely a player to watch.




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Weight: 210lbs (95kg)
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Post#377 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:15 pm

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Post#378 » by Juco24 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:17 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:KDs age and contract just make him a tough sell over KAT. Chances are that trade would have left us in a really bad spot if we don't win it all


Left us with a crippled future and probably no championship
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Post#379 » by Rodimus921 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:22 pm

I think Quentin Grimes is the perfect starting shooting guard to complement Jalen Brunson. He was able to get minutes and develop his game after being traded for a break out season in the 2024-2025 campaign . He could be poors man Devin Booker.

I asked AI if Quentin Grimes is any good and AI said ..,,


Quentin Grimes good?
AI Overview



+8
Yes, Quentin Grimes has shown significant improvement and potential, particularly since joining the 76ers. While previously considered a solid role player, he's displayed a newfound offensive explosiveness and scoring prowess, leading to discussions about a potential breakout season.

Here's a more detailed look:

Positive Developments:

Improved Scoring:
Grimes has demonstrated a much more aggressive scoring ability, taking more shots, driving to the basket, and hitting pull-up jumpers.

Increased Efficiency:
He's not only scoring more but also doing so at a higher efficiency, hitting a good percentage of his shots overall and from three-point range.

All-Around Offense:
Grimes has shown a more versatile offensive game, including creating his own shot and making plays for others, not just being a spot-up shooter.

Defensive Impact:
Grimes has a strong defensive reputation, with good footwork, active hands, and ability to navigate screens.

Breakout Potential:
His recent performance has sparked conversations about a potential breakout, with some comparing him to players who had late-career ascensions.

Leadership Qualities:
Grimes has also shown leadership qualities, encouraging his teammates and taking on an assertive role.

Areas of Consideration:
Sustainability:
Some wonder if his recent scoring surge is a temporary hot streak or a sustainable part of his game.

Role on a Strong Team:
While he's thrived in a more prominent role with the 76ers, it remains to be seen how he'll fit on a fully healthy and established team, like the Mavericks.

In Conclusion:
Quentin Grimes has undeniably improved his game and shown the potential to be a valuable player. His recent performance has been impressive, and while questions remain about consistency and fit on a championship-level team, he is definitely a player to watch.



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Overall 85

Position: SG / SF
Archetype: 2-Way 3-Level Shot Creator
Height: 6'5" (196cm)
Weight: 210lbs (95kg)
Wingspan: 6'8" (203cm)
Season Salary: $4,296,682
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Post#380 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:22 pm

Juco24 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:KDs age and contract just make him a tough sell over KAT. Chances are that trade would have left us in a really bad spot if we don't win it all


Left us with a crippled future and probably no championship


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