Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

[navyblue]

which team(s) would benefit from having both tyson and bargnani on their roster?

rockets: i don't think tyson would complain if he were to come off the bench behind dwight; bargnani wouldn't get in dwight's way, since he's able to shoot from the perimeter.

Houston has 2 players making close to 20 mil (howard/harden) then have lin and asik making 8 per. rest of their roster is minimum/rookie contract players, no one else makes more than 1.5. its going to be pretty hard to make salaries work with them.

[iAdoreeKnicks]

@ESPNSteinLine: Knicks owner James Dolan told his players Thursday no trades or changes to coaching staff are forthcoming.

[MKCATL]

Say we continue down the same path, wouldn't it'd be wise to try and move Chandler and Bargs at the deadline for 2015 draft picks, Which would gives us assets to move over the offseason along with our own 2015 pick?

[Marty McFly]

Say we continue down the same path, wouldn't it'd be wise to try and move Chandler and Bargs at the deadline for 2015 draft picks, Which would gives us assets to move over the offseason along with our own 2015 pick?

there's nothing wise about moving draft picks. nothing.

[Marty McFly]

@ESPNSteinLine: Knicks owner James Dolan told his players Thursday no trades or changes to coaching staff are forthcoming.

as far as i'm concerned, what this entails is this team needs to show significant improvement by the trade deadline. he's giving them a chance. i fully expect the key pieces to be gone by the trade deadline if this team hasn't improved.

[jdm_dc_fan]

@ESPNSteinLine: Knicks owner James Dolan told his players Thursday no trades or changes to coaching staff are forthcoming.

as far as i'm concerned, what this entails is this team needs to show significant improvement by the trade deadline. he's giving them a chance. i fully expect the key pieces to be gone by the trade deadline if this team hasn't improved.

Who's gonna want amarie's contract? bargnani's? You have to throw in incentive to get rid of their contracts. NYK FO messed up bad.

[Marty McFly]

@ESPNSteinLine: Knicks owner James Dolan told his players Thursday no trades or changes to coaching staff are forthcoming.

as far as i'm concerned, what this entails is this team needs to show significant improvement by the trade deadline. he's giving them a chance. i fully expect the key pieces to be gone by the trade deadline if this team hasn't improved.

Who's gonna want amarie's contract? bargnani's? You have to throw in incentive to get rid of their contracts. NYK FO messed up bad.

who said amare or bargs are key pieces? I'm talking melo, shumpert, j.r. (even as the dog **** those two have been playing at been playing at) felton and tyson.

amare nor bargs are going to land us anything significant at this point, and the only players worth trading that would land you anything significant at that point if this team hasn't righted the ship by then are those i just mentioned.

[jdm_dc_fan]

as far as i'm concerned, what this entails is this team needs to show significant improvement by the trade deadline. he's giving them a chance. i fully expect the key pieces to be gone by the trade deadline if this team hasn't improved.

Who's gonna want amarie's contract? bargnani's? You have to throw in incentive to get rid of their contracts. NYK FO messed up bad.

who said amare or bargs are key pieces? I'm talking melo, shumpert, j.r. (even as the dog **** those two have been playing at been playing at) felton and tyson.

amare nor bargs are going to land us anything significant at this point, and the only players worth trading that would land you anything significant at that point if this team hasn't righted the ship by then are those i just mentioned.

The only players worth anything is melo, jr, chandler and shump to an extent. Melo if traded means rebuild with little assets unless danny throws his picks our way, which he wont. Tim looks like a good developing player but like I said still developing. his value is mostly educated speculation. Chandler is only valuable to teams on the brink of a top playoff team. It's a shame he's getting paid too much or calls would be coming in for him every day. Chandler on miami would lock them in for championships for years to come. On okc, spurs etc. Now shumpert his stock is at an all time low. He had a better rookie season then this years season after an injury? And the secretiveness of his knee? all signs show that shumpert has something going on.

[jdm_dc_fan]

Who's gonna want amarie's contract? bargnani's? You have to throw in incentive to get rid of their contracts. NYK FO messed up bad.

who said amare or bargs are key pieces? I'm talking melo, shumpert, j.r. (even as the dog **** those two have been playing at been playing at) felton and tyson.

amare nor bargs are going to land us anything significant at this point, and the only players worth trading that would land you anything significant at that point if this team hasn't righted the ship by then are those i just mentioned.

The only players worth anything is melo, Hjr, chandler and shump to an extent. Melo if traded means rebuild with little assets unless danny throws his picks our way, which he wont. Tim looks like a good developing player but like I said still developing. his value is mostly educated speculation. Chandler is only valuable to teams on the brink of a top playoff team. It's a shame he's getting paid too much or calls would be coming in for him every day. Chandler on miami would lock them in for championships for years to come. On okc, spurs etc. Now shumpert his stock is at an all time low. He had a better rookie season then this years season after an injury? And the secretiveness of his knee? all signs show that shumpert has something going on.

[Marty McFly]

The only players worth anything is melo, jr, chandler and shump to an extent. Melo if traded means rebuild with little assets unless danny throws his picks our way, which he wont. Tim looks like a good developing player but like I said still developing. his value is mostly educated speculation. Chandler is only valuable to teams on the brink of a top playoff team. It's a shame he's getting paid too much or calls would be coming in for him every day. Chandler on miami would lock them in for championships for years to come. On okc, spurs etc. Now shumpert his stock is at an all time low. He had a better rookie season then this years season after an injury? And the secretiveness of his knee? all signs show that shumpert has something going on.

1. I'm not interested in trading tim jr at all. he's young, cheap has some upside.

2. you don't need alot of assets to rebuild. not to start anyway. I'm in favor of doing everything we can to get our pick(s) back from the nuggets by moving whatever assets we get from whatever team(s) we trade melo and chandler to the nuggets. if that's not a possibility, then you try to make it work with some other team (the hawks just lost horford, maybe they'd take melo for those net picks) that might have a pick projected in the lottery worth trade melo and chandler for. if that's not possible then you look to some team that wants to be put over the hump in the pla offs and has good young player(s) the knicks may want to piece together their team with.

we'll have our pick in 2015 (so we tank) and capsace (you gun for kyrie) in 2015.

the rest maybe key playoff teams would be interested in those other ones. i don't care much for them either way.


rebuilding wouldn't be that difficult if it's done right.

[jdm_dc_fan]

The only players worth anything is melo, jr, chandler and shump to an extent. Melo if traded means rebuild with little assets unless danny throws his picks our way, which he wont. Tim looks like a good developing player but like I said still developing. his value is mostly educated speculation. Chandler is only valuable to teams on the brink of a top playoff team. It's a shame he's getting paid too much or calls would be coming in for him every day. Chandler on miami would lock them in for championships for years to come. On okc, spurs etc. Now shumpert his stock is at an all time low. He had a better rookie season then this years season after an injury? And the secretiveness of his knee? all signs show that shumpert has something going on.

1. I'm not interested in trading tim jr at all. he's young, cheap has some upside.

2. you don't need alot of assets to rebuild. not to start anyway. I'm in favor of doing everything we can to get our pick(s) back from the nuggets by moving whatever assets we get from whatever team(s) we trade melo and chandler to the nuggets. if that's not a possibility, then you try to make it work with some other team (the hawks just lost horford, maybe they'd take melo for those net picks) that might have a pick projected in the lottery worth trade melo and chandler for. if that's not possible then you look to some team that wants to be put over the hump in the pla offs and has good young player(s) the knicks may want to piece together their team with.

we'll have our pick in 2015 (so we tank) and capsace (you gun for kyrie) in 2015.

the rest maybe key playoff teams would be interested in those other ones. i don't care much for them either way.


rebuilding wouldn't be that difficult if it's done right.

Your plan is too reliant on other teams doing things that would be considered highly unlikely.

[Marty McFly]

The only players worth anything is melo, jr, chandler and shump to an extent. Melo if traded means rebuild with little assets unless danny throws his picks our way, which he wont. Tim looks like a good developing player but like I said still developing. his value is mostly educated speculation. Chandler is only valuable to teams on the brink of a top playoff team. It's a shame he's getting paid too much or calls would be coming in for him every day. Chandler on miami would lock them in for championships for years to come. On okc, spurs etc. Now shumpert his stock is at an all time low. He had a better rookie season then this years season after an injury? And the secretiveness of his knee? all signs show that shumpert has something going on.

1. I'm not interested in trading tim jr at all. he's young, cheap has some upside.

2. you don't need alot of assets to rebuild. not to start anyway. I'm in favor of doing everything we can to get our pick(s) back from the nuggets by moving whatever assets we get from whatever team(s) we trade melo and chandler to the nuggets. if that's not a possibility, then you try to make it work with some other team (the hawks just lost horford, maybe they'd take melo for those net picks) that might have a pick projected in the lottery worth trade melo and chandler for. if that's not possible then you look to some team that wants to be put over the hump in the pla offs and has good young player(s) the knicks may want to piece together their team with.

we'll have our pick in 2015 (so we tank) and capsace (you gun for kyrie) in 2015.

the rest maybe key playoff teams would be interested in those other ones. i don't care much for them either way.


rebuilding wouldn't be that difficult if it's done right.

Your plan is too reliant on other teams doing things that would be considered highly unlikely.

as if anything we talk about in this thread are anymore likely. point is, there are options.

[NOOB77]

Call up Portland and offer them Tyson for Robin Lopez, Thomas Robinson and CJ McCollum....

Do you think Portland says yes?

[ibraheim718]

Call up Portland and offer them Tyson for Robin Lopez, Thomas Robinson and CJ McCollum....

Do you think Portland says yes?

They say hell no. Lopez is having a good year and he's younger and more durable and McCollum was their lottery pick.

[Mars_Blackmon]

Trade Tyson to a team trying to win now, get back a young guy and a pick
Trade Melo to LAC for Blake, flip Blake for picks/youth
Trade JR to a team in need of scoring
Trade Felton to a team needing a back up PG get back a 2nd rounder
Flip Shumpert for a young guy struggling who needs a change of scenery(Shump for Kidd-Gilchrist maybe)

Let everyone else expire

I'm gonna put something together now

[navyblue]

Trade Tyson to a team trying to win now, get back a young guy and a pick
Trade Melo to LAC for Blake, flip Blake for picks/youth
Trade JR to a team in need of scoring
Trade Felton to a team needing a back up PG get back a 2nd rounder
Flip Shumpert for a young guy struggling who needs a change of scenery(Shump for Kidd-Gilchrist maybe)

Let everyone else expire

I'm gonna put something together now

everything except the shump trade is unlikely.

what winning team would be willing to mess up thier roster for tyson? thats what they will have to do to match up his 14 mil salary. very few good teams have dead salary on thier roster.
i have said this before and will say it again, melo for blake is a pipe dream, blake is a Need for them, melo is a nice to have.
the headcase, ball hog jr smith, shooting 35% with 2 years left after this, and a trade kicker to boot.
felton sucks, feltons contracts sucks more.
shump trade for another rebuild project is likely.

not saying that chandler, jr smith, felton are untradeable. instead saying not to expect much. more along the lines of one garbage for another.

[Mars_Blackmon]

Trade Tyson to a team trying to win now, get back a young guy and a pick
Trade Melo to LAC for Blake, flip Blake for picks/youth
Trade JR to a team in need of scoring
Trade Felton to a team needing a back up PG get back a 2nd rounder
Flip Shumpert for a young guy struggling who needs a change of scenery(Shump for Kidd-Gilchrist maybe)

Let everyone else expire

I'm gonna put something together now

everything except the shump trade is unlikely.

what winning team would be willing to mess up thier roster for tyson? thats what they will have to do to match up his 14 mil salary. very few good teams have dead salary on thier roster.
i have said this before and will say it again, melo for blake is a pipe dream, blake is a Need for them, melo is a nice to have.
the headcase, ball hog jr smith, shooting 35% with 2 years left after this, and a trade kicker to boot.
felton sucks, feltons contracts sucks more.
shump trade for another rebuild project is likely.

not saying that chandler, jr smith, felton are untradeable. instead saying not to expect much. more along the lines of one garbage for another.

You would trade Tyson to a team who needs a Center if they are trying to win now
Felton would be a good back up, think GSW
Blake is good but Melo makes more sense for LAC, last nights game down the stretch is was all Paul and they lost because Blake is too limited offensively
JR has a bad rep around here but a strong head coach will keep him in check and make sure he plays better
Shumpert needs a change of scenery bad

[jdm_dc_fan]

Call up Portland and offer them Tyson for Robin Lopez, Thomas Robinson and CJ McCollum....

Do you think Portland says yes?

Throw in hardaway and they would entertain it for sure. CJ can be a better player than tim.

[Rasho Brezec]

Tyson to OKC for Perkins and Adams is the only trade that makes sense.

[NOOB77]

STAT for Bynum. How much did they sign him for??