Amare Has Bulging Disc, Out 2-4 Weeks, Taking Epidural

[Starksfor3]

lets wait for the specialist to talk b4 making judgments

as for a depth replacement, is ike diogu still a FA? take a flyer on him

You have been shockingly reasonable and level-headed the last few weeks. What happened?

WOODSANITY

[K_ick_God]

Sky is failing, sky is failing.

This little to no room to maneuver is a classic overstatement. People said the same exact thing after the Melo trade and then we added Lin, Novak, Smith, Shumpert, Harrellson, Jeffries less than a year later.

We haven't lost all control of all our picks, Amar'e has not been given a course of treatment yet, nobody here has examined Amar'e, he's just 29 and this is not a severe structural problem with his back.

The panic is definitely premature and overstated.

I think more than a little of this 'Amare is done' talk is wishful thinking on the part of people who just don't like him as a player for some reason and want him to be finished as a player.

If it were simply concern over losing a starter, we wouldn't be hearing about how stupid the front office was for using the amnesty on Billups and how the Knicks are now 'saddled' with a bad contract for the foreseeable future.

A lot of people seem less concerned with not having an important part of the lineup and more concerned with letting everyone know how right they were all along.

And all on pretty much zero hard information. I'll wait for the medical staff to report before drawing any conclusions, personally.

I agree fully.

And it makes no sense to be pining for the right to use amnesty on Amar'e. All that means is we a) lose Amar'e and b) don't gain much if any cap space. It's pretty useless.

I'll take my chances with Amar'e until the very ripe old age of 33 or whatever he'll be at the end of his contract.

I told people he could get his game back soon and he was certainly starting to do that. Don't count this man out. He is a very hard worker and still not 30.

[Pharmcat]

lets wait for the specialist to talk b4 making judgments

as for a depth replacement, is ike diogu still a FA? take a flyer on him

You have been shockingly reasonable and level-headed the last few weeks. What happened?

glen grunwald proved me wrong

[Knicks80_20]

Amar'e has been back to his old self the last few weeks. Players who are finished don't go in and out from good to bad. He had taken time to work his way back and shed weight. He was getting there. He is a hard worker and he will get there again. Amar'e has always had a kind of stiff up straight and up and down body but his explosion has made him special and his explosion was back ... his explosion comes mostly from his legs which are not affected.

Amar'e will be back.

A bad lower back will definitely kill explosion -- and alot of other things. We'll just have to pray that this doesn't affect Amare's game too much afterwards, but the probabilities are very much against us.

[K_ick_God]

Amar'e has been back to his old self the last few weeks. Players who are finished don't go in and out from good to bad. He had taken time to work his way back and shed weight. He was getting there. He is a hard worker and he will get there again. Amar'e has always had a kind of stiff up straight and up and down body but his explosion has made him special and his explosion was back ... his explosion comes mostly from his legs which are not affected.

Amar'e will be back.

A bad lower back will definitely kill explosion -- and alot of other things. We'll just have to pray that this doesn't affect Amare's game too much afterwards, but the probabilities are very much against us.

Obviously he has to have a pain-free back to play and be explosive but if so, his explosion doesn't come from his back. This is not an injury to his legs at all, and that is where his explosion comes from. That's my point.

The people who all doubted Amar'e, and the supposedly brilliant Suns medical staff, told us that his knees were going to be the problem. So far not true at all.

[Drun53]

My friend texted me saying that he's apparently only out for 4 weeks. Don't know where he got that from, though.

[K_ick_God]

My friend texted me saying that he's apparently only out for 4 weeks. Don't know where he got that from, though.

I haven't heard that but if so then he'll be back for the playoffs.

[Knicks80_20]

Amar'e has been back to his old self the last few weeks. Players who are finished don't go in and out from good to bad. He had taken time to work his way back and shed weight. He was getting there. He is a hard worker and he will get there again. Amar'e has always had a kind of stiff up straight and up and down body but his explosion has made him special and his explosion was back ... his explosion comes mostly from his legs which are not affected.

Amar'e will be back.

A bad lower back will definitely kill explosion -- and alot of other things. We'll just have to pray that this doesn't affect Amare's game too much afterwards, but the probabilities are very much against us.

Obviously he has to have a pain-free back to play and be explosive but if so, his explosion doesn't come from his back. This is not an injury to his legs at all. That's my point.

Ah, I know that man, but have you ever talked to anyone who had a lower back injury? The lower back is heavily utilized in every physical movement involving the body -- without it being in good shape, even walking normally can be difficult.

Here's an example of what can happen to an elite athlete (Don Mattingly) after a bugling disc in the lower back.

Although the injury was not devastating, it did require him to spend five days in traction at NYU hospital. Doctors at the time described the injury as two protruding disks that wouldn't require surgery, but would need a few weeks of rest. While Mattingly was on the shelf, he was replaced by a young up-and-coming left-handed slugger named Dan Pasqua...

I met him in the summer of his decline in 1990, deep in the bowels of the Stadium where the pipes and wires above your head run to be hidden from the beauty of the green grass and looming white facade above. He agreed to an interview after a difficult night at the plate. But as was the tradition of the year, I had to wait until his "post-game workout" was done. "My back," he told me, "will not wait."

After a half hour, Mattingly emerged from a steamy room covered in towels and walking like a man 40 years his elder. He peered out from the one on his head, recognizing me with a nod. "I don't think anyone knows how hard you work," I told him.

It was painful to watch him shuffle down the hall toward the Yankee clubhouse, and this was four seasons ago and a man who is only a year older than me. I saw him play minor league ball, his first game in the bigs, his All-Star rise; now he pained to merely sit in front of his locker and tug a tee shirt over his head.

"Part of my game these days," he whispered.

Long hours after games, between games, between seasons; working harder for lesser results. But the Yankees cannot win a pennant without him. The only losing stretch the team has endured all season occurred when Mattingly was on the disabled list. Since his return the Yankees don't seem to lose.

"This is not as good a team without Donnie in there," manager Buck Showalter said recently. "Not even close."

[moocow007]

lets wait for the specialist to talk b4 making judgments

as for a depth replacement, is ike diogu still a FA? take a flyer on him

You have been shockingly reasonable and level-headed the last few weeks. What happened?

My guesses:

1. He got married.
2. He got divorced.
3. He won lotto.
4. He's getting some.
5. He just found out that he's the long lost heir to an aristocrasy in India.

[bigfnjoe96]

Joe, you said you may be crazy, but you were optimistic. I was fine with that and want you to believe whatever you want. But no more posts telling us to stop freaking out when we are the ones having a calm, measured discussion here. Got me?

It seems some of you want to come in threads and make generalized judgments about the nature of the posters point of view being emotionally imbalanced when it is the shrill posts claiming people are losing their cool that are the emotionally unstable posts.

Maybe if you read the posts and digested them, you'd understand why there are skeptics here who just talk about what they are skeptical about and who don't need little juice cups and rubbed tummies to make their belly aches go away.

Telling people they are panicking about Amare is really weak. We're talking about a player who now has had back issues for close to a year since the playoffs, but in reality probably much earlier. Stat was not the player he was in the second half of last season. And this season, he was mostly bad and obviously physically compromised. And you guys want to tell us this is something new?

How about some of you go play somewhere else then? I don't need to see another juvenile scolding when some of us want to talk about this. Got me?

Nobody is scolding anybody, so i'm not sure where this is coming from. I'm posting how I feel just like everyone else is.

OK, let's switch gears then.

I am no longer asking you. I am telling you to STOP TELLING THE BOARD THEY ARE PANCKING AND TO CALM DOWN WHEN ALL THEY ARE DOING IS DISCUSSING A PLAYER.

You are not just expressing an opinion any longer when you post a graphic of a man on a ledge and say STOP PANICKING! That is not an opinion. That is disrespect of the basic exchange of opinion and I'm surprised you don't understand the difference.

If you were only interested in exchanging opinions, you would say you disagree and tell us why. It is that simple. If you don't know the difference, stay out of people's hair and don't try to shame them because you think you are sane and they are not.

Contribute if you want, but do it without the added baggage please.

I'm not sure where this hostility is coming from, but I'll respect your wishes. Remember I'm not the enemy here.. I'm a passionate Knick Fan just like yourself

[mpharris36]

lets wait for the specialist to talk b4 making judgments

as for a depth replacement, is ike diogu still a FA? take a flyer on him

You have been shockingly reasonable and level-headed the last few weeks. What happened?

My guesses:

1. He got married.
2. He got divorced.
3. He won lotto.
4. He's getting some.5. He just found out that he's the long lost heir to an aristocrasy in India.

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[Fury]

Frank Isola is the guy that mentioned 4 weeks

[Tim Horton]

can he be bought out?

with his physical problems, mgmt should have at least the foresight to get a decent backup like Kmart or JJ Hickson at least this season. Jared Jeffries is just too old and injury-prone.

[mpharris36]

can he be bought out?

with his physical problems, mgmt should have at least the foresight to get a decent backup like Kmart or JJ Hickson at least this season. Jared Jeffries is just too old and injury-prone.

did you loose a bet or something?

why in the world would u have that little douche in ur avatar????

I have to restrain myself from trying to punch ur avatar through my computer screen!

HE HAS SUCH A SMACKABLE FACE!

[K_ick_God]

Frank Isola is the guy that mentioned 4 weeks

Where did he do that?

[makeitstop]

can he be bought out?

Oy vey.

[NoLayupRule]

What a Shame both Hickson and Turiaf just got snatched up.

[bigfnjoe96]

I know talking bout Mattingly as an example though fair Is misleading. We're talking 25 years ago. Treatment is much more advanced now.

[Fury]

Frank Isola is the guy that mentioned 4 weeks

Where did he do that?

On ESPN Radio w/Rucco and Lundberg

[xAIRNESSx]

I heard it's only a bulging dick. That's not too bad.