Frank Thread 3: FIBA Frank Aftermath

Synciere · Post #381 » by **Synciere** » Sat Nov 9, 2019 11:19 pm

Capn'O wrote:Fiz is warming up.

The player he reminds me of is Doug Christie. Long, lengthy. Intense defender. Great role player. Down to having the yips about shooting early in his career.

That’s a pretty great comp...

adjacent2bench · Post #382 » by **adjacent2bench** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:36 am

FreeDawkins with a fantastic highlight video showcasing both Frank’s defense and offense from last night against Dallas.

Watch on YouTube

Fat Kat · Post #383 » by **Fat Kat** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:49 am

Clyde_Style · Post #384 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:52 am

Fat Kat wrote:

Morris be like:

Yes, Grasshopper

X-Man Cometh · Post #385 » by **X-Man Cometh** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:58 am

I always thought of Nate McMillan as a good Frank comparison when we drafted him.

Elite defense, all around impact, sexy stat lines, even if he didn't score much. He even developed a somewhat reliable 3-point shot later in his career:

Watch on YouTube

The first block in this video is very similar to Frank's on THJ last night:

Watch on YouTube

Stannis · Post #386 » by **Stannis** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:55 am

Keep it up Frank.

Mecca · Post #387 » by **Mecca** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:17 am

Frank's defense looks soooo much better than last year. To be honest, I felt like Frank took a step back last year, especially on the defensive end. This year? He looks like an all-nba defender. I've learned that it's very important to be objective when analyzing players. I call it like I see it. Right now, I'm impressed with Frank and rooting for him to keep it up. He's a likable kid.

aq_ua · Post #388 » by **aq_ua** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:25 am

Frank seems healthy this year and in mid-season form due to the FIBA training all summer. If he can make it through the full season at around 30 mpg, it’ll be a pretty powerful indication of what he can be for the rest of his career.

matchman · Post #389 » by **matchman** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:08 pm

We need to thank the French coach to restore the faith and confidence of Frank during the FIBA tourney.

Clyde_Style · Post #390 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:16 pm

matchman wrote:We need to thank the French coach to restore the faith and confidence of Frank during the FIBA tourney.

So true

I wonder if there is some kind of e-card we can all sign and send to him. Seriously, that would be a cool gesture

Knicksfan20 · Post #391 » by **Knicksfan20** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:21 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
Dantares wrote:People are going to hate on the way Fiz handled Frank but remember fiz gave frank more of a chance than Hornacek did. Frank and KP were the best two man duo in the league according to plus minus stats and KP's camp requestd for Frank to start, yet Horny didn't trust Frank.

I hope this narrative that Fiz doesnt care about Frank dies, we dont need that negativity surrounding the team spreading through the media or fans like French Knicks pod. Fiz always talks about how Frank is a great kid and Fiz even got thrown out of a game sticking up for Frank against charlotte last year.
Fiz also played Frank 22 minutes a game and called him his swiss army knife. Frank just sucked and has now had two good games.

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Fizz also compared Lance Thomas to Draymond Green so i would take what comes out of his mouth with a grain of salt. Fizz had a short leash with Frank all last year. You can tell Frank was looking over his shoulder and playing shook all season long.

DickGrayson · Post #392 » by **DickGrayson** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:41 pm

Frank has everything you want in a guard except his finishing ability and his low shooting %. Every PG or SG has insane range and shooting ability so we need Frank to develop into a complete player despite his game changing defense.

Frank to me was the best overall guard in FIBA and the reason why France looked so difficult.

The best way to put it,
Frank complicates things.

He was able to do more around better structure and players.

Knicks are a mess of redundancy and lack of versatility on their roster. Since the ISIAH Thomas era, where we had 5 combo guards and 6 undersized forwards and always atleast 1 injury prone big man. It's the same formula with the current Knicks, except we have Barrett, Robinson and Ntilikina.

These players are the only untouchables on the roster. But usually our untouchables get traded for an all star who leaves us in 2-3 season because we just never win. I see Frank eventually being used as trade bait, not because he sucks but because Knicks love to trade away winning pieces to a championship.

Quote me on this: Frank Ntilikina will win a NBA championship before the Knicks do.

Synciere · Post #393 » by **Synciere** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:57 pm

Fat Kat wrote:

Now that’s the MF Frank we need to see E’ERY GAME!!!

Synciere · Post #394 » by **Synciere** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:00 pm

Mecca wrote:Frank's defense looks soooo much better than last year. To be honest, I felt like Frank took a step back last year, especially on the defensive end. This year? He looks like an all-nba defender. I've learned that it's very important to be objective when analyzing players. I call it like I see it. Right now, I'm impressed with Frank and rooting for him to keep it up. He's a likable kid.

If Frank gets 30 minutes a night, he’ll end up on an All Defensive team.. he’s that good on that end..

Synciere · Post #395 » by **Synciere** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:01 pm

DickGrayson wrote:Frank has everything you want in a guard except his finishing ability and his low shooting %. Every PG or SG has insane range and shooting ability so we need Frank to develop into a complete player despite his game changing defense.

Frank to me was the best overall guard in FIBA and the reason why France looked so difficult.

The best way to put it,
Frank complicates things.

He was able to do more around better structure and players.

Knicks are a mess of redundancy and lack of versatility on their roster. Since the ISIAH Thomas era, where we had 5 combo guards and 6 undersized forwards and always atleast 1 injury prone big man. It's the same formula with the current Knicks, except we have Barrett, Robinson and Ntilikina.

These players are the only untouchables on the roster. But usually our untouchables get traded for an all star who leaves us in 2-3 season because we just never win. I see Frank eventually being used as trade bait, not because he sucks but because Knicks love to trade away winning pieces to a championship.

Quote me on this: Frank Ntilikina will win a NBA championship before the Knicks do.

I mean, we picked up his option, so he could still play into our plans...

Stannis · Post #396 » by **Stannis** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:10 pm

Anyone think there might be a Frank-Mitch conundrum? Im not sure if they can play together unless Frank develops a consistent shot. Or Mitch can hit the 3 lol.

Zenzibar · Post #397 » by **Zenzibar** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:17 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:

Morris be like:

Yes, Grasshopper

How good is Morris' signing now? His fearlessness alone is having a huge impact on Frank. Seems he's taken him under his wing.

Post #398 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:18 pm

Stannis wrote:Anyone think there might be a Frank-Mitch conundrum? Im not sure if they can play together unless Frank develops a consistent shot. Or Mitch can hit the 3 lol.

We don’t have any PG or center who can shoot a lot. I still think it’s an overall net positive and a skillful coach can blend and tweak, including who plays with them. So short answer is shooting is important and lineups and spacing are important but if those guys play their game they will be helpful playing together.

Zenzibar · Post #399 » by **Zenzibar** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:23 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
Stannis wrote:Anyone think there might be a Frank-Mitch conundrum? Im not sure if they can play together unless Frank develops a consistent shot. Or Mitch can hit the 3 lol.

We don’t have any PG or center who can shoot a lot. I still think it’s an overall net positive and a skillful coach can blend and tweak, including who plays with them. So short answer is shooting is important and lineups and spacing are important but if those guys play their game they will be helpful playing together.

Defense, Defense, Defense.

Let Frank continue to develop his confidence on offense. But let's get the team's defensive rating in the top 10 first.

Post #400 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:28 pm

DickGrayson wrote:Frank has everything you want in a guard except his finishing ability and his low shooting %. Every PG or SG has insane range and shooting ability so we need Frank to develop into a complete player despite his game changing defense.

Frank to me was the best overall guard in FIBA and the reason why France looked so difficult.

The best way to put it,
Frank complicates things.

He was able to do more around better structure and players.

Knicks are a mess of redundancy and lack of versatility on their roster. Since the ISIAH Thomas era, where we had 5 combo guards and 6 undersized forwards and always atleast 1 injury prone big man. It's the same formula with the current Knicks, except we have Barrett, Robinson and Ntilikina.

These players are the only untouchables on the roster. But usually our untouchables get traded for an all star who leaves us in 2-3 season because we just never win. I see Frank eventually being used as trade bait, not because he sucks but because Knicks love to trade away winning pieces to a championship.

Quote me on this: Frank Ntilikina will win a NBA championship before the Knicks do.

Nah he’s not going anywhere. Think positive thoughts.