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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#381 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:34 pm

Worst_to_First wrote:Suns fans were feeling hopeless just a few months ago. Another poor season, firing a coach who was there for just a year, falling in the lottery and looking life having failed big time in the draft.

I don’t like Mills, I prefer a new President, but don’t give in to despair. What I love about this sport is just things can change quickly with a few lucky bounces.

If the Knicks had drafted SGA, like the Suns drafted Booker, I would be far more optimistic. For all their faults, the Suns have a franchise player, or a potential franchise player. We have nothing that resembles that.
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Post#382 » by robillionaire » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:34 pm

I just don’t care anymore. I’m sorry but I don’t. I’ll probably still watch games but I can’t bring myself to get invested in the management drama. I hope it works out.
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Post#383 » by F N 11 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:35 pm

robillionaire wrote:I just don’t care anymore. I’m sorry but I don’t. I’ll probably still watch games but I can’t bring myself to get invested in the management drama. I hope it works out.

I'm just going to wait until it works out to invest myself again.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#384 » by BrOnXKing1 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:37 pm

Stannis wrote:I kinda feel bad for Fiz, if this is true.


Dude Fiz is beyond terrible. He wants to be buddy buddy with all the players. There is no accountability on the team. Randle can have 7 turnovers in a row and he won't be benched.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#385 » by nyknicks09 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:41 pm

I cancelled my NBA League Pass right after the Kings game. I feel bad for Mitch, Frank, Knox, and RJ. The rest can be traded and/or waived as far as I am concerned.

I can’t wait for Fitz to be fired. He’s useless to the young guys in this team. He doesn’t build confidence with the young guys and doesn’t have the b@lls to bench Randle.

Mills and Perry overpaying on short contracts. That was their plan A, B, C, D, E, and Failure
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Post#386 » by RHODEY » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:45 pm

K-DOT wrote:We assembled a bad team, it just so happens to be poorly coached as well

Fiz and Mills should both be gone. I'm on the fence with Perry, on one hand he doesn't seem to understand fit or roster construction, on the other hand, I think his drafting has been at least very good (mostly depending on how Knox turns out, but given our hole at PG and how good SGA is playing, seems like a big miss but otherwise he's been very good), I like the idea of bringing in younger guys to try and see who sticks, and while I disagree with who he signed, he hasn't signed anyone to a long term immovable contract

So, fire Fiz and Mills, hire Masai and actually let him run the team


I really think this is the way to go....but I highly doubt it will happen this way
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#387 » by DaGawd » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:46 pm

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justin12140 wrote:I’m not really a fan of the Mills & Perry media address last night. Doesn’t really accomplish anything and it continues the perception that the Knicks are a circus. They should have pressured Fiz in private

Dolan ordered them to do it apparently... We are indeed still a circus with that guy as our owner


Do you mind showing where you got this info from please? If it's from anyone in the media then don't bother cause anyone who's been around the New York sports media long enough should know by now that only about 10% of everything they say is the actual truth so i'm hoping it's from a actual legit source.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256105/James-Dolan-Disappointed-By-Knicks-Start-Ordered-Front-Office-To-Address-Media

According to Frank Isola if you want to believe him or not
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Post#388 » by robillionaire » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:47 pm

The good news is that being the worst team in the NBA is objectively better than these 1 year deals stringing together 30 something meaningless wins. So despite their best efforts they managed to do the right thing as it pertains to getting us another top 5 pick
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Post#389 » by GONYK » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:49 pm

DaGawd wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Dolan ordered them to do it apparently... We are indeed still a circus with that guy as our owner


Do you mind showing where you got this info from please? If it's from anyone in the media then don't bother cause anyone who's been around the New York sports media long enough should know by now that only about 10% of everything they say is the actual truth so i'm hoping it's from a actual legit source.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256105/James-Dolan-Disappointed-By-Knicks-Start-Ordered-Front-Office-To-Address-Media

According to Frank Isola if you want to believe him or not


What other source is there than NY media?

Unverified Twitter accounts?
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Post#390 » by robillionaire » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:50 pm

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Worst_to_First wrote:Suns fans were feeling hopeless just a few months ago. Another poor season, firing a coach who was there for just a year, falling in the lottery and looking life having failed big time in the draft.

I don’t like Mills, I prefer a new President, but don’t give in to despair. What I love about this sport is just things can change quickly with a few lucky bounces.

If the Knicks had drafted SGA, like the Suns drafted Booker, I would be far more optimistic. For all their faults, the Suns have a franchise player, or a potential franchise player. We have nothing that resembles that.


We have RJ and a top 5 next year, got to hope one of those pans out. The suns could have drafted SGA themselves and they took Mikal bridges
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Post#391 » by Knicksfan1992 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:51 pm

I don't like Dolan at all but I don't see how it is necessarily a bad thing that he had the FO address the media after that horrible start. Would we have rather had them act as if nothing was wrong. It was odd timing for sure but I kind of like that they're getting ahead of this chit. Rip the band-aid off now and address the failures before the media can run with it.
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Post#392 » by DaGawd » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:51 pm

robillionaire wrote:I just don’t care anymore. I’m sorry but I don’t. I’ll probably still watch games but I can’t bring myself to get invested in the management drama. I hope it works out.

Basically how I'm feeling also
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Post#393 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:52 pm

nyknicks09 wrote:I cancelled my NBA League Pass right after the Kings game. I feel bad for Mitch, Frank, Knox, and RJ. The rest can be traded and/or waived as far as I am concerned.

I can’t wait for Fitz to be fired. He’s useless to the young guys in this team. He doesn’t build confidence with the young guys and doesn’t have the b@lls to bench Randle.

Mills and Perry overpaying on short contracts. That was their plan A, B, C, D, E, and Failure


Who knows what it could’ve been with a good coach. To me, this is still a complete mess from Team Prez to GM to Head Coach.

1. Fire Fizdale

2. Trade this garbage for as many draft picks as possible. Take on a bad contract or two to get primo picks.

3. Then fire Mills and Perry after the last game of the season and bring in a respected basketball guy as Team Prez to pick a new GM and then a Head Coach.
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Post#395 » by RHODEY » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:53 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:I wonder where we would be had Mills never re-signed Tim Hardaway Jr and didn't trade KP.


Yes single worst decision in the last 4 years...this alone should have gotten him canned.
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Post#396 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:53 pm

A continued downward spiral might be for the best, as long as we dont make any dumb moves. Get a top pick, move on from Pills and we have a relatively clean slate for the next guy to come in.

If we show some promise, Dolan may keep Mills around.
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Post#397 » by DaGawd » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:53 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:I don't like Dolan at all but I don't see how it is necessarily a bad thing that he had the FO address the media after that horrible start. Would we have rather had them act as if nothing was wrong. It was odd timing for sure but I kind of like that they're getting ahead of this chit. Rip the band-aid off now and address the failures before the media can run with it.

It's only a bad thing cause it might mean he's ready to assert his own will over personnel decisions again soon if he indeed did make them address the media
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Post#398 » by HerSports85 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:54 pm

here’s the thing I think Fiz is a bad coach but before firing him Dolan need to do two things.

1. Fire / Replace Mills
2. Step completely away from anything knicks related.
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Post#399 » by Stannis » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:58 pm

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Stannis wrote:I kinda feel bad for Fiz, if this is true.


Dude Fiz is beyond terrible. He wants to be buddy buddy with all the players. There is no accountability on the team. Randle can have 7 turnovers in a row and he won't be benched.

I get that. But I felt Mills kinda sold Fiz on the idea of having a black trio run the team. And only like a year and a half later, he gives him a crap roster and runs to Dolan about him being a crappy coach.

I honestly don't think the best coach in the NBA can make this a 30 win team.
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Post#400 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:59 pm

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Worst_to_First wrote:Suns fans were feeling hopeless just a few months ago. Another poor season, firing a coach who was there for just a year, falling in the lottery and looking life having failed big time in the draft.

I don’t like Mills, I prefer a new President, but don’t give in to despair. What I love about this sport is just things can change quickly with a few lucky bounces.

If the Knicks had drafted SGA, like the Suns drafted Booker, I would be far more optimistic. For all their faults, the Suns have a franchise player, or a potential franchise player. We have nothing that resembles that.


We have RJ and a top 5 next year, got to hope one of those pans out. The suns could have drafted SGA themselves and they took Mikal bridges

There's no guarantee RJ pans out and becomes that guy. I don't think it's even fair to put those expectations on him. I'm not souring on him, I just don't think he's ready and that means every outcome is possible.

The front office has failed in every aspect. The only thing they cannot be judged on - so far - is the draft. Getting Mitch in the second round was a steal. Jury's still out on RJ, but I love him and I trust he'll put in the work to get better. Knox looks like a bust to me, but that's just me and I would love to be wrong. My point is, I don't know if I can trust them to make the right pick.

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