Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Commish Update pg. 93

[Context]

yes correct those are subjective opinions. I never said otherwise. But there are deals that could be considered "objectively" bad.

As I said above...it was my opinion you got a good deal for the Kork trade. I never said it was an awful trade from Contexts POV. But if you trying to tell me someone can't make an "objectively" bad trade I'm sure I can find a fake trade that the league would consider objectively bad for the league.

If we agree to a Frank Ntlikina for Jayson Tatum trade straight up...that isn't objectively horrible for you?

if you didn't send "future considerations"

you got some highway robery

I love that you have dragen bender on your team too

thats what you said and it was uninformed too- you didnt even know Melo had bender two days ago
I dont care but im just making a point...you need to get in a gms mind and know all of the facts surrounding a trade before you
give these opinions...

why do I need to get into another GM's mind to give my opinion? I never said context shouldn't of made the trade. IMO I think Melo got a great deal for him. I never said the trade should be vetoed or context is a dope. I was respond to melo specifically that I loved the trade for him. I am not entitled to my opinion?

you contradicted yourself - admitt it...

[mpharris36]

Context is right though. If the GM’s themselves are satisfied with what they doing then its fine. It’s their teams. Again, you trying to bring up hypotheticals to prove your point when nothing like that has ever happened. There’s no deal that has been “objectively bad for the league” so far in BAF and needed to get vetoed by the commish.

Now I am not saying we should stop the commentary and discussions about moves that teams make but I think everyone here will agree that it is all subjective opinions.

I agree with you. I don't think I have called for any trade to be vetoed. So that means I'm just giving my opinion on a trade...like hoffa said if there wasn't opinions on moves then why even have a discussion board? Again if I'm changing someone's mind about something then people are giving me too much credit

There’s nothing wrong with giving your opinions on moves. The commentary is what makes BAF great. But I am just saying you can’t say any move so far has been objectively bad. Everything is subjective.

I would agree with you. I think a few trades have been questionable in the past...but nothing to where the league should step in if that is what you are asking.

[bringbackhoffa]

its all a moot point i have decided to make a fair market value offer to Draymond

[Smash3]

a bozo huh...ok nice touch.

I mean one post, maybe two posts, but you've been spewing your uninformed takes for pages now... Shoving down bad deals down other GM's throats every other page, you really think Phish Tank is going to take on $440? Draymond had the worst contract in the league, it was toxic and you know it. You're just being petty, get creative, think outside of the box and put together a real team instead of worrying about selling your consultancy services to other teams.

are you having an issue with me discussing a move or me potentially ruining a deal you set up? Because if its the latter how am I suppose to know that there was an agreed to give him a 1st round pick to waive a player. That isn't a move typically made.

You are taking the risk that by giving him a 1st round pick to waive him you can then use your FA rating to get him for much cheaper. Its a solid move on your part and never suggested otherwise. Once Wack suggested he received compensation I said it now made sense but how am I suppose to know that, im not in peoples business about what they are trying to do.

Theres nothing in the rules to suggest you can't do what you did.

I don't have an issue with you discussing the move or worried about it being ruined, but what I do have a problem with is you talking trash about the other GM at length without even shooting him a PM to get his reasoning. Obviously it's not a move one typically makes, which is why I put this up first:



You're telling me after all that, and after NewEra and Pooch spelled it out for you, you still didn't know?

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[3toheadmelo]

I agree with you. I don't think I have called for any trade to be vetoed. So that means I'm just giving my opinion on a trade...like hoffa said if there wasn't opinions on moves then why even have a discussion board? Again if I'm changing someone's mind about something then people are giving me too much credit

There’s nothing wrong with giving your opinions on moves. The commentary is what makes BAF great. But I am just saying you can’t say any move so far has been objectively bad. Everything is subjective.

I would agree with you. I think a few trades have been questionable in the past...but nothing to where the league should step in if that is what you are asking.

Questionable in your eyes and maybe a couple others is subjective

[Deeeez Knicks]

[HEZI]

The beauty about this game is that everybody has the right to do whatever they want with their team

[mpharris36]

I mean one post, maybe two posts, but you've been spewing your uninformed takes for pages now... Shoving down bad deals down other GM's throats every other page, you really think Phish Tank is going to take on $440? Draymond had the worst contract in the league, it was toxic and you know it. You're just being petty, get creative, think outside of the box and put together a real team instead of worrying about selling your consultancy services to other teams.

are you having an issue with me discussing a move or me potentially ruining a deal you set up? Because if its the latter how am I suppose to know that there was an agreed to give him a 1st round pick to waive a player. That isn't a move typically made.

You are taking the risk that by giving him a 1st round pick to waive him you can then use your FA rating to get him for much cheaper. Its a solid move on your part and never suggested otherwise. Once Wack suggested he received compensation I said it now made sense but how am I suppose to know that, im not in peoples business about what they are trying to do.

Theres nothing in the rules to suggest you can't do what you did.

I don't have an issue with you discussing the move or worried about it being ruined, but what I do have a problem with is you talking trash about the other GM at length without even shooting him a PM to get his reasoning. Obviously it's not a move one typically makes, which is why I put this up first:



You're telling me after all that, and after NewEra and Pooch spelled it out for you, you still didn't know?

You are asking me to believe Pooch?

everyone puts up stuff about players all the time. Did you also get Jose to waive CP3? Because you put up that picture too?

And first of all I made my suggesting before New Era and Pooch commented. And you took the risk. Obviously there is no guarantee you get him. That is why I don't understand you coming at me. You know the risk you took...why do I have to make an assumption of things your are doing in the background.

To my knowledge Draymond Green at the time was a waiver claim no one had any rights to him. So I commented. Until wack posted today that he was incentivized to do it which then I said mad more sense.

I have my own opinion on paying teams to waive a player...but there is no rule against it so more power to you guys. Hopefully your risk works out for you.

[mpharris36]

The beauty about this game is that everybody has the right to do whatever they want with their team

i don't think anyone has suggested otherwise.

I think the other dynamic is that everyone has the right to comment as well because at the end of the day this community is why we play the game. If we all just made moves and submitted them to bish and never talked about anything what would the fun be?

We are kinda the GM's, Media, and Fan Base all in one. That is what keeps this game thriving.

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[Smash3]

are you having an issue with me discussing a move or me potentially ruining a deal you set up? Because if its the latter how am I suppose to know that there was an agreed to give him a 1st round pick to waive a player. That isn't a move typically made.

You are taking the risk that by giving him a 1st round pick to waive him you can then use your FA rating to get him for much cheaper. Its a solid move on your part and never suggested otherwise. Once Wack suggested he received compensation I said it now made sense but how am I suppose to know that, im not in peoples business about what they are trying to do.

Theres nothing in the rules to suggest you can't do what you did.

I don't have an issue with you discussing the move or worried about it being ruined, but what I do have a problem with is you talking trash about the other GM at length without even shooting him a PM to get his reasoning. Obviously it's not a move one typically makes, which is why I put this up first:



You're telling me after all that, and after NewEra and Pooch spelled it out for you, you still didn't know?

You are asking me to believe Pooch?

everyone puts up stuff about players all the time. Did you also get Jose to waive CP3? Because you put up that picture too?

And first of all I made my suggesting before New Era and Pooch commented. And you took the risk. Obviously there is no guarantee you get him. That is why I don't understand you coming at me. You know the risk you took...why do I have to make an assumption of things your are doing in the background.

To my knowledge Draymond Green at the time was a waiver claim no one had any rights to him. So I commented. Until wack posted today that he was incentivized to do it which then I said mad more sense.

I have my own opinion on paying teams to waive a player...but there is no rule against it so more power to you guys. Hopefully your risk works out for you.

You're already reaching with all the assumptions about why HOU-BOS trade makes sense, you're already presuming that Wackbone could find a better deal but you can't put two and two together that I wouldn't trade for Hutchinson? I mean my dude I asked you ... before the deal was done if you wanted Hutchinson because he fits your timeline ...

[King of Canada]

its all a moot point i have decided to make a fair market value offer to Draymond

[mpharris36]

I don't have an issue with you discussing the move or worried about it being ruined, but what I do have a problem with is you talking trash about the other GM at length without even shooting him a PM to get his reasoning. Obviously it's not a move one typically makes, which is why I put this up first:



You're telling me after all that, and after NewEra and Pooch spelled it out for you, you still didn't know?

You are asking me to believe Pooch?

everyone puts up stuff about players all the time. Did you also get Jose to waive CP3? Because you put up that picture too?

And first of all I made my suggesting before New Era and Pooch commented. And you took the risk. Obviously there is no guarantee you get him. That is why I don't understand you coming at me. You know the risk you took...why do I have to make an assumption of things your are doing in the background.

To my knowledge Draymond Green at the time was a waiver claim no one had any rights to him. So I commented. Until wack posted today that he was incentivized to do it which then I said mad more sense.

I have my own opinion on paying teams to waive a player...but there is no rule against it so more power to you guys. Hopefully your risk works out for you.

You're already reaching with all the assumptions about why HOU-BOS trade makes sense, you're already presuming that Wackbone could find a better deal but you can't put two and two together that I wouldn't trade for Hutchinson? I mean my dude I asked you ... before the deal was done if you wanted Hutchinson because he fits your timeline ...

I think you are giving me way to much credit. I had no idea the two moves were connected. There was even a back and forth today between deeez and hoffa wondering what the motives were I didn't start that convo. So you thinking I can connect the dots on all the deals you are crazy. Especially I owe you deals.

Also I suggested the trade, because draymond wasn't currently on a team. I would never undermine two teams from trying to complete a deal...to my understanding the deals we complete and dray was a FA.

I was told that all deals are subjective so I have to assume you don't value Chandler Hutchinson? To be honest that move just brushed by me...I never thought twice about it because the pick you were sending was such a late 1st probably maybe you liked Hutchinson...I don't think the value is that far off...I wouldn't do it but Hutchinson for a very heavily swapped 1st round pick doesn't throw up red flags to me.

If you look at my response to pooch after I suggested that possible move to help Boston...I was shocked I didn't think of that scenario. You can go back in the timeline.

[DOT]

You talking bout hypotheticals though. Like in the very extremes. That hasn’t happened yet and most likely never will. Like a Lebron for Josh Jackson deal. Lol

[bringbackhoffa]

its all a moot point i have decided to make a fair market value offer to Draymond

So zion off the bench?

[King of Canada]

its all a moot point i have decided to make a fair market value offer to Draymond

So zion off the bench?

Green and Richardson bench squad

[Manhattan Project]

Why pay for Green when you can get Vonleh for free?

[Smash3]

You are asking me to believe Pooch?

everyone puts up stuff about players all the time. Did you also get Jose to waive CP3? Because you put up that picture too?

And first of all I made my suggesting before New Era and Pooch commented. And you took the risk. Obviously there is no guarantee you get him. That is why I don't understand you coming at me. You know the risk you took...why do I have to make an assumption of things your are doing in the background.

To my knowledge Draymond Green at the time was a waiver claim no one had any rights to him. So I commented. Until wack posted today that he was incentivized to do it which then I said mad more sense.

I have my own opinion on paying teams to waive a player...but there is no rule against it so more power to you guys. Hopefully your risk works out for you.

You're already reaching with all the assumptions about why HOU-BOS trade makes sense, you're already presuming that Wackbone could find a better deal but you can't put two and two together that I wouldn't trade for Hutchinson? I mean my dude I asked you ... before the deal was done if you wanted Hutchinson because he fits your timeline ...

I think you are giving me way to much credit. I had no idea the two moves were connected. There was even a back and forth today between deeez and hoffa wondering what the motives were I didn't start that convo. So you thinking I can connect the dots on all the deals you are crazy. Especially I owe you deals.

Also I suggested the trade, because draymond wasn't currently on a team. I would never undermine two teams from trying to complete a deal...to my understanding the deals we complete and dray was a FA.

I was told that all deals are subjective so I have to assume you don't value Chandler Hutchinson? To be honest that move just brushed by me...I never thought twice about it because the pick you were sending was such a late 1st probably maybe you liked Hutchinson...I don't think the value is that far off...I wouldn't do it but Hutchinson for a very heavily swapped 1st round pick doesn't throw up red flags to me.

If you look at my response to pooch after I suggested that possible move to help Boston...I was shocked I didn't think of that scenario. You can go back in the timeline.

Maybe you should start giving other GM's the same or at least the benefit of the doubt...

[mpharris36]

You're already reaching with all the assumptions about why HOU-BOS trade makes sense, you're already presuming that Wackbone could find a better deal but you can't put two and two together that I wouldn't trade for Hutchinson? I mean my dude I asked you ... before the deal was done if you wanted Hutchinson because he fits your timeline ...

I think you are giving me way to much credit. I had no idea the two moves were connected. There was even a back and forth today between deeez and hoffa wondering what the motives were I didn't start that convo. So you thinking I can connect the dots on all the deals you are crazy. Especially I owe you deals.

Also I suggested the trade, because draymond wasn't currently on a team. I would never undermine two teams from trying to complete a deal...to my understanding the deals we complete and dray was a FA.

I was told that all deals are subjective so I have to assume you don't value Chandler Hutchinson? To be honest that move just brushed by me...I never thought twice about it because the pick you were sending was such a late 1st probably maybe you liked Hutchinson...I don't think the value is that far off...I wouldn't do it but Hutchinson for a very heavily swapped 1st round pick doesn't throw up red flags to me.

If you look at my response to pooch after I suggested that possible move to help Boston...I was shocked I didn't think of that scenario. You can go back in the timeline.

Maybe you should start giving the other GM's the same or at least the benefit of the doubt...

what kind of comment is that?

So let me get where you are coming from. You called me a bozo because I didn't read into your hutchinson for a heavily swapped 1st round pick deal? And once I found out when wack posted I said the waiver at least makes sense now. Do you think I have been lying this whole time and secretly knew and tried to disrupt your FA plans? If thats not obvious by now I can 100% tell you I had zero intention of doing anything to that fact.

Am I the only one that didn't know what was going on and it was that obvious. Deeez, hoffa, were you guys aware and were just jerking my chain this morning?