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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#381 » by Guano » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:16 pm

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Post#383 » by symbiotic » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:24 pm

PLEASE don't trade him to the Pacers or Magic with that contract!

This is a steal!
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Post#385 » by Jimmit79 » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:41 pm

symbiotic wrote:PLEASE don't trade him to the Pacers or Magic with that contract!

This is a steal!
It would sad if he got traded for Dame

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#386 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:41 pm

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I mean it’s okay if you don’t want to win a championship. Enjoy these wins I guess. We’ll always watch someone else holding up the trophy but at least we might get into the playoffs.


Realistically speaking - there are about 3 teams every year that can actually win a chip. I don't hear ya'll bitching about any other team that doesn't. I'm 37 years old and been a hardcore fan for 27 years at this point. The best years of my sports life were rooting for those 90's teams that never won a chip. We root for our teams to be good and enjoy watching them play. I really don't know where this championship or bust idea came from with NBA fans but it's wild. All of this is funny too because the reality is that Lebron spoiled everyone by ACTUALLY being a once in a generation franchise changer. Ya'll keep thinking that 1 percent chance of landing the top pick that will also be the second coming of Michael and Magic is a realistic option - it's not. All of those "Franchise" saviors you all salivate over in recent years are likely NEVER winning championships with their teams. This league is for better and worse about actual franchise guys teaming up together now to win chips, it is what it is. The truth is you all want to tank infinitely until you get a player you personally like so that you can satisfy your own ego's about being right. That's all it is, egotism.

Yup. According to the diehard tankers the Knicks are the only team in the NBA on a treadmill and somehow 15 other teams with "real stars" will win a championship in the next 2 years. Dudes think teams like the Kings, Minny and Pelicans are any closer to winning a chip just because they got a guy with more ESPN highlights than we got.

There's no actually team building strategy from them either, just draft someone I like and everything else will magically work out. Site should be called unrealisticgm.com
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#387 » by Appleshampoo » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:41 pm

Yeah I mean we obviously should've signed Emmanuel Mudiay and that power forward at the end of Denvers bench or out of the league to 1 year deals. It's the path to the stars. Kawhi loves Mudiay. Fiz got him right.

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#388 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:45 pm

whocares1 wrote:
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I mean it’s okay if you don’t want to win a championship. Enjoy these wins I guess. We’ll always watch someone else holding up the trophy but at least we might get into the playoffs.


Realistically speaking - there are about 3 teams every year that can actually win a chip. I don't hear ya'll bitching about any other team that doesn't. I'm 37 years old and been a hardcore fan for 27 years at this point. The best years of my sports life were rooting for those 90's teams that never won a chip. We root for our teams to be good and enjoy watching them play. I really don't know where this championship or bust idea came from with NBA fans but it's wild. All of this is funny too because the reality is that Lebron spoiled everyone by ACTUALLY being a once in a generation franchise changer. Ya'll keep thinking that 1 percent chance of landing the top pick that will also be the second coming of Michael and Magic is a realistic option - it's not. All of those "Franchise" saviors you all salivate over in recent years are likely NEVER winning championships with their teams. This league is for better and worse about actual franchise guys teaming up together now to win chips, it is what it is. The truth is you all want to tank infinitely until you get a player you personally like so that you can satisfy your own ego's about being right. That's all it is, egotism.


This was a great read but I don’t really care what you’ve been through. I just want to watch my team win a championship. I just know that this isn’t the way to do that. Everything else is just “be grateful for what you have” but sports edition. I don’t care I’m sorry.
How were you going to rebuild the Knicks to win a championship next year?

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#389 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:49 pm

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Now the argument is “hey..other teams are making bad decisions, so who cares if we are?” Meanwhile the Heat have three championships in the last 15 years.

So what's your foolproof step by step plan to win a championship since you know more than Pat Riley now?


they never have one. Step 1: complain Step 2: profit?
They do. Tank. Win number 1 pick five years in a row. Decide you want to win the championship. Voila.

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#390 » by K_ick_God » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:51 pm

You can ignore Randle not going for the big money, no problem, but with the flameout in the playoffs I’d say it’s a concern.
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Post#391 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:00 pm

whocares1 wrote:
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Theres no foolproof plan. I never claimed to know more than Pat Riley and if that’s what you understood then you should reread where I said that the man has already won a ring for his team before even Bron came. All I can tell you with 100% certainty is that whatever the Knicks are doing is not even close to a path to a championship.

So you have no plan to win a championship either. You have no idea what to do but you seem to already know what the Knicks will do in the next 5 years and all the players they will have on the team in the next 5 years.


Hit on draft picks, prioritize on their development. Keep cap space to acquire additional draft stock via trades. Sign mercenary vets to short term deals to help young players. Play in a modern NBA offense. Not crazy. Doesn’t guarantee a championship but it’s the only way.
That's a philosophy am overall strategy. Now you need tactics. What are those tactics. Who do you draft?

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#392 » by cgmw » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:02 pm

When’s the last time we had an optimistic offseason?

Downside: Maybe Randle’s breakout season was just a fluke. Maybe RJ and Mitch don’t progress. Maybe Kemba and Rose can’t stay healthy. Maybe Thibs burns us out to get swept out of the first round. Maybe Dolan flips out from the negative press of not meeting high expectations and heads start to roll or desperate bad trades start happening.

Upside: Maybe Kemba/Fournier fit in seamlessly. Maybe Randle steps up again. Maybe RJ and Mitch take it to the next level. Maybe our guard depth keeps Rose and Kemba fresh. Maybe the Garden goes wild selling out every night while Barclays stays empty. Maybe Dolan learns to trust his executives and stay patient. Maybe we make the playoffs in 2021 and in 2022 we advance to the 2nd round. Maybe 2023 we become a legit destination for top tier FAs.

Maybe I shouldn’t enjoy uncertainty as much as I do. Honestly it could go either way, but will definitely be fun to watch no matter what.
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Post#393 » by F N 11 » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:03 pm

KnicksGod wrote:You can ignore Randle not going for the big money, no problem, but with the flameout in the playoffs I’d say it’s a concern.

In his defense, he carried us and he needed help. We got him that. No more brick layers taking up Roster spots. Knox is next.
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Post#394 » by whocares1 » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:11 pm

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Gravy wrote:So you have no plan to win a championship either. You have no idea what to do but you seem to already know what the Knicks will do in the next 5 years and all the players they will have on the team in the next 5 years.


Hit on draft picks, prioritize on their development. Keep cap space to acquire additional draft stock via trades. Sign mercenary vets to short term deals to help young players. Play in a modern NBA offense. Not crazy. Doesn’t guarantee a championship but it’s the only way.


Yeah let's hire Fizdale, too. The stars will align i'm telling you, bro. Trust me.


Not sure what Fizdale has to do with any of this, he didn’t even have an offensive system. And for those saying lottery picks I never even said lottery picks. If you can find the next Giannis, Butler, etc. in the 15-21 range in the draft then by all means go for it. The point is that the young talent needs to be the focal point behind our wins. It would mean that they are developing and the Knicks have cap flexibility.
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Post#395 » by whocares1 » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:19 pm

Tron Carter wrote:everybody knows a revolving door of mercenary vets and no roster continuity is the sure fire way to developing young talent and acquiring superstars


As opposed to alternative of what the Knicks are doing has worked tremendously correct? One playoff win in 10 years and you’re content with the moves of the current regime right? Stop sounding like a condescending douche when literally every championship team in the last 20 years has had at least one home grown superstar. Like what im saying is objectively crazy or something. Hit on draft picks?? No way Im demanding way too much.

Roster continuity doesn’t mean ****. Look at the Nets..look at the Lakers. They had young talent they moved them for superstars and they had cap space to sign superstars. It literally happened right next to us. Why didn’t we get KD or Kyrie? Because they wanted to collectively screw the well run Knicks or was it Bc the Nets actually hit on their draft picks and their surrounding talent was better? Regardless of how you feel about them, the Nets were attractive Bc of that. The Knicks are building a team that’s destined to go nowhere relevant.
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Post#396 » by nedleeds » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:22 pm

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We're locked into a 6th-8th seed with no hope of a high draft pick for 2-3 years. Buckle those seat belts!


Jesus F'n Christ. You a lame...


You're satiated with mediocrity. To each their own.
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Post#397 » by F N 11 » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:27 pm

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We're locked into a 6th-8th seed with no hope of a high draft pick for 2-3 years. Buckle those seat belts!


Jesus F'n Christ. You a lame...


You're satiated with mediocrity. To each their own.

When was the last time we could stay the knicks built anything? Last time we were good it was for 1 year then everyone retired then Mike Woodson got fired. If anything they are telling me to trust the process. We will have the same team with positive additions, same coaching staff, and same FO. I was upset but its ok to be proven wrong. Choose to roll with it until proven wrong. We have all our picks and young players to dangle too.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#398 » by Marty McFly » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:29 pm

gotta give Randle credit. big balls **** wanting to come back, with a a slight pay cut. Dude definitely wants to be here. Respect.
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Post#399 » by Tron Carter » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:32 pm

whocares1 wrote:
Tron Carter wrote:everybody knows a revolving door of mercenary vets and no roster continuity is the sure fire way to developing young talent and acquiring superstars


As opposed to alternative of what the Knicks are doing has worked tremendously correct? One playoff win in 10 years and you’re content with the moves of the current regime right? Stop sounding like a condescending douche when literally every championship team in the last 20 years has had at least one home grown superstar. Like what im saying is objectively crazy or something. Hit on draft picks?? No way Im demanding way too much.

Roster continuity doesn’t mean ****. Look at the Nets..look at the Lakers. They had young talent they moved them for superstars and they had cap space to sign superstars. It literally happened right next to us. Why didn’t we get KD or Kyrie? Because they wanted to collectively screw the well run Knicks or was it Bc the Nets actually hit on their draft picks and their surrounding talent was better? Regardless of how you feel about them, the Nets were attractive Bc of that. The Knicks are building a team that’s destined to go nowhere relevant.


see that’s the problem with y’all obsessed tankers. You think there’s only one way to skin a cat. And the Nets haven’t won jack **** and might not ever. Foh
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension 

Post#400 » by thisiskoz » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:45 pm

nedleeds wrote:
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We're locked into a 6th-8th seed with no hope of a high draft pick for 2-3 years. Buckle those seat belts!


Jesus F'n Christ. You a lame...


You're satiated with mediocrity. To each their own.


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