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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#381 » by Wildcat » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:52 am

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yeah its all an act...This was probably done a while ago- KAT had to sign off on it...


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#382 » by El Poochio » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:52 am

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#383 » by Stannis » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:53 am

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aggo wrote:also, kat is younger than randle.

And softer.

And more injured.

And on a much worse contract.

1. Maybe. But randle's attitude just might be worse. however kat is better at literally everything that randle is good at.

2. He was, but missing out the most important part of the season and playoffs while kat was herbing jokic in the playoffs kinda puts that in perspective.

3. Yes now. Not on Randle's next contract tho. There's a reason why he turned down the extension. Randle will likely want more than kat.


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#384 » by mpharris36 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:53 am

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Sure he is a better fit offensively but he isn't going to help on D. He is terrible.


he sure isn't a great defender...he is a much more versatile defender than Randle. KAT when he was playing center was blocking a shot and a half a game. This move shows you the knicks had zero faith of Randle playing small ball five since he has no ability to protect the rim.

Is he really more versatile? Randle can at least move his feet and switch on to wings. KAT is stone footed. Teams targeted him the most in the playoffs than anyone else. Boston is gonna drive and kick on him all series long unless Thibs does a miracle on him.
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More versatile in that KAT can play some drop coverage and guard the rim better...by no means do I think KAT is a good defender. I also think Randle can move his feet better...he just really never put much effort at all on defense. And I simply just don't think they believe they could get away with Randle at the 5.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#385 » by RamonSessions7 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:53 am

Understand not being super high on KAT as I am not, but still a good trade for Knicks. And Timberwolves are an Edwards Gobert team now which is just awful
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#386 » by Jay10 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:54 am

F N 11 wrote:The stretch 5 is here for Brunson. This has a lot of promise. Going to miss Donte.


There will be a lot of pick and pop plays between Brunson and Towns, similar to what Tatum and Kristaps ran non-stop where Kristaps was also popping out on the pick to shoot 3 pointers.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#387 » by Jonathan2347 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:54 am

Why can't we keep donte and send off duece ?

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#388 » by Guano » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:55 am

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he sure isn't a great defender...he is a much more versatile defender than Randle. KAT when he was playing center was blocking a shot and a half a game. This move shows you the knicks had zero faith of Randle playing small ball five since he has no ability to protect the rim.


I like KAT in theory and I'll root for him. But damn, he was dumb as hell against the mavs last year. And minny gave up so much for gogurt to cover his weakness, then gave up on him with the addition of Naz.

I'm not really worried about what we gave up. I just don't fck with KAT. He is soft af.


KAT has his flaws...he wasn't good vs Mavs....but he also was very good vs the Suns and DEN...

so as much as people are killing KAT for playoff failures...he's been WAYYYY more successful than Randle in playoffs.


As good as he was against Denver he was way worse vs the mavs. He literally killed his team that series.

I just can't see a team with KAT as the 2nd best player winning it all. Especially if he is going to be our C. He isn't good enough.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#389 » by Jeffrey » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:55 am

RamonSessions7 wrote:Understand not being super high on KAT as I am not, but still a good trade for Knicks. And Timberwolves are an Edwards Gobert team now which is just awful


Best thing Minny can do right now is possibly trade Randle for a few role players. Naz Reid should play alongside Gobert.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#390 » by F N 11 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:56 am

The stretch 5 capabilities, passing, and IQ. This has insane possibilities. Feel like we messed up a little chemistry but the fit is better.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#391 » by mpharris36 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:56 am

I wouldn't be surprised if they dealt Mitch...at some point either...
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#392 » by Iron Mantis » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:57 am

When Randle signs with Brooklyn, you think they'll become a playoff team?

Would make a great rivalry.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#393 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:57 am

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he sure isn't a great defender...he is a much more versatile defender than Randle. KAT when he was playing center was blocking a shot and a half a game. This move shows you the knicks had zero faith of Randle playing small ball five since he has no ability to protect the rim.

Is he really more versatile? Randle can at least move his feet and switch on to wings. KAT is stone footed. Teams targeted him the most in the playoffs than anyone else. Boston is gonna drive and kick on him all series long unless Thibs does a miracle on him.
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More versatile in that KAT can play some drop coverage and guard the rim better...by no means do I think KAT is a good defender. I also think Randle can move his feet better...he just really never put much effort at all on defense. And I simply just don't think they believe they could get away with Randle at the 5.

Randle was on and off on his effort but he was never put on an island like teams did to KAT in the post season. He also thrived defensively at the 5 on the lakers, so I would’ve taken my chance. Another thing is that KAT struggled heavily against Boston too where as Randle destroyed them quite a few times already. So idk man..
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#394 » by HighRyzer83 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:57 am

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Mitch or Josh Hart.. but more Mitch

I'm guessing Detroit is involved. That's probably where that Detroit pick is going back to along with Mitch for beef stew!
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#395 » by Stannis » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:58 am

If not now, when?

Can't wait for Giannis. Randle wasn't the answer.

I'm not a KAT fan. But it's just the kind of deal where you pull the trigger and figure it out later.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#396 » by mpharris36 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:58 am

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I like KAT in theory and I'll root for him. But damn, he was dumb as hell against the mavs last year. And minny gave up so much for gogurt to cover his weakness, then gave up on him with the addition of Naz.

I'm not really worried about what we gave up. I just don't fck with KAT. He is soft af.


KAT has his flaws...he wasn't good vs Mavs....but he also was very good vs the Suns and DEN...

so as much as people are killing KAT for playoff failures...he's been WAYYYY more successful than Randle in playoffs.


As good as he was against Denver he was way worse vs the mavs. He literally killed his team that series.

I just can't see a team with KAT as the 2nd best player winning it all. Especially if he is going to be our C. He isn't good enough.


its that age ole theory....if they didn't have KAT they don't get passed DEN. So yeah the longer you play in the playoffs the more scrutiny you get but you can't argue Minny would have got to WCF without KAT.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#397 » by Jstock12 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:58 am

If this doesn't work out, the Nova Knicks could become one of the bigger what ifs in the franchise history
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Post#398 » by F N 11 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:58 am

The true shooting percentage of this team could be historic. Need to replace Donte dogness.
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Post#399 » by Guano » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:59 am

Jonathan2347 wrote:Why can't we keep donte and send off duece ?

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Deuce is one of the most team friendly deals in the L. He is nice. Donte will not be missed. We have mikal.

Better to remember him foundly for this past playoff run than watch him be petty pablo the rest of his career.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#400 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:59 am

We need Mitch more than ever now because KAT is only successful playing next to a rim protector. Adding in Mitch is a bad move.
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