Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

[MrDollarBills]

I'd rather trade Karl before trading pieces to pair Karl with JJJ.

That's not the answer

[VirginiaKnickFan]

I'd rather trade Karl before trading pieces to pair Karl with JJJ.

That's not the answer

I don't see any big trade happening this offseason. We need depth pieces and a coach that will use them.

[ctorres]

KDs age and contract just make him a tough sell over KAT. Chances are that trade would have left us in a really bad spot if we don't win it all

Left us with a crippled future and probably no championship

Hasn't played a full season in years. 37 years old. Injury risk. Handcuffs the team. Such a Zeke level move.

Where is he going to go?

I'm starting to wonder if Phoenix will go into the season with KD still on the team.

I feel like teams need to see how KD looks to start the season before they invest in him for three years. Otherwise it's crazy how teams are hesitant to trade for one of the best players of all time.

[KnixinSix]

Yeah. Let's see what the next HC can do with this roster. We all know there was zero game plan on offense for this team and the defense was one dimensional as well. A new HC may play to the strengths of the roster instead of forcing square pegs into round holes all year.

The KAT and Mouse game with KAT and Jaren would be really fun to watch under a better offensive coach.

Brunson and Divo doing the Nova Knick thing in the back court like its 2024.

OG the glue holding it all together with timely 3s , steals and back cuts to the hoop.

Leon in here telling us his plans the last two seasons!! Now we're getting Divo and JJJ!! Book it!

Try not to broadcast this too much please.....

[jvsimonetti0514]

KFS did a breakdown of a few trade packages that the Knicks could offer for Durant and seeing Knicks line up of Brunson, Mikal, OG, Durant, Mitch did get me pretty excited. It still made me worry about there only being one ball but the line up did seem to make more sense to me. Durant offer better shot creation and playmaking than Kat does but it really shortens the window to next year and maybe a second. They’d just need to figure out a way to get a decent back up big cuz there’s no way Mitch is lasting the whole season as a starter.

[ctorres]

I will be shocked if we pull off a trade for JJJ

How is he not a long term piece for the Grizzlies? He is 25 years old and fits with Edey and Aldama

If it's a matter of cutting salary, maybe they take Mitch, Deuce, and Josh as affordable role players

Meanwhile, our starting lineup would be worth like $200 million a year, lol

[Spree2Houston]

I will be shocked if we pull off a trade for JJJ

How is he not a long term piece for the Grizzlies? He is 25 years old and fits with Edey and Aldama

If it's a matter of cutting salary, maybe they take Mitch, Deuce, and Josh as affordable role players

Meanwhile, our starting lineup would be worth like $200 million a year, lol

I think it would be OG for JJJ. Jackson is only eligible for OG salary (36 mil) since he didn’t make an All-NBA team.

[Jalen Bluntson]

The KAT and Mouse game with KAT and Jaren would be really fun to watch under a better offensive coach.

Brunson and Divo doing the Nova Knick thing in the back court like its 2024.

OG the glue holding it all together with timely 3s , steals and back cuts to the hoop.

Leon in here telling us his plans the last two seasons!! Now we're getting Divo and JJJ!! Book it!

Try not to broadcast this too much please.....

I'm starting my own YouTube channel using you as a source!!

[ctorres]

I will be shocked if we pull off a trade for JJJ

How is he not a long term piece for the Grizzlies? He is 25 years old and fits with Edey and Aldama

If it's a matter of cutting salary, maybe they take Mitch, Deuce, and Josh as affordable role players

Meanwhile, our starting lineup would be worth like $200 million a year, lol

I think it would be OG for JJJ. Jackson is only eligible for OG salary (36 mil) since he didn’t make an All-NBA team.

I just dont see how OG makes sense. He is 75% as valuable as JJJ IMO

OG is a few years older too

So the Knicks would have to add more in the deal, but I don't know what

[RHODEY]

Is he better than OG? I don’t really think so. He is good, he’d be perfect next to Towns here, but he, too, is inconsistent.

He's an Allstar, former DPOY, shoots 48%FG. 37+ 3pt, dropped over 22 ppg last season, only 25, best player on a near 50 win western playoff team...in what context is he inconsistent?

You just highlighted why it's doubtful (I didn't say 100% impossible) they move him in a trade. They only have him and Ja Morant as stars left to build around and sell to their fanbase.

Right it is doubtful....but is it clear what direction they are going in? And if JJJ is a threat to leave later (because they cant max him) maybe...just maybe they resign themselves to getting what they can get for him now.

[MrDollarBills]

I'd rather trade Karl before trading pieces to pair Karl with JJJ.

That's not the answer

I don't see any big trade happening this offseason. We need depth pieces and a coach that will use them.

Yep. I think the answer is to improve on what we already have.

The players under contract got to a conference finals. A better strategy and some depth probably gets us at least a finals appearance.

[MrDollarBills]

I will be shocked if we pull off a trade for JJJ

How is he not a long term piece for the Grizzlies? He is 25 years old and fits with Edey and Aldama

If it's a matter of cutting salary, maybe they take Mitch, Deuce, and Josh as affordable role players

Meanwhile, our starting lineup would be worth like $200 million a year, lol

The Grizzlies aren't trading him.

[Richard4444]

I will be shocked if we pull off a trade for JJJ

How is he not a long term piece for the Grizzlies? He is 25 years old and fits with Edey and Aldama

If it's a matter of cutting salary, maybe they take Mitch, Deuce, and Josh as affordable role players

Meanwhile, our starting lineup would be worth like $200 million a year, lol

Our hope would be if he dont want to play for the Memphis and want to play for the Knicks. Thus he would not sign an extension.

But he should accept a Memphis 200m deal after renegotiating his contract.

[KnixinSix]

I will be shocked if we pull off a trade for JJJ

How is he not a long term piece for the Grizzlies? He is 25 years old and fits with Edey and Aldama

If it's a matter of cutting salary, maybe they take Mitch, Deuce, and Josh as affordable role players

Meanwhile, our starting lineup would be worth like $200 million a year, lol

I think it would be OG for JJJ. Jackson is only eligible for OG salary (36 mil) since he didn’t make an All-NBA team.

Heres an example of OG instead of Bridges....if Memphis prefers the picks over players and Houston prefers OG over Bridges:

[Richard4444]

Had JJJ made an All-NBA team, he would have been eligible to sign a five-year extension worth up to $345.3 million this offseason. Since he didn’t, the Grizzlies can offer him no more than a four-year extension worth $146.8 million. That’s basically OG’s salary slot. Knicks could do a OG for JJJ swap and follow up with Mitch for Donte swap in some 3way trade.

If I not mistaken if the Memphis renegotiate JJJ salary (adding salary from cap space), they will could offer him a 200M extension.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Had JJJ made an All-NBA team, he would have been eligible to sign a five-year extension worth up to $345.3 million this offseason. Since he didn’t, the Grizzlies can offer him no more than a four-year extension worth $146.8 million. That’s basically OG’s salary slot. Knicks could do a OG for JJJ swap and follow up with Mitch for Donte swap in some 3way trade.

If I not mistaken if the Memphis renegotiate JJJ salary (adding salary from cap space), they will could offer him a 200M extension.

They are clearing the space to do so. The only way we get him is if he forces his way here.

[KnixinSix]

Had JJJ made an All-NBA team, he would have been eligible to sign a five-year extension worth up to $345.3 million this offseason. Since he didn’t, the Grizzlies can offer him no more than a four-year extension worth $146.8 million. That’s basically OG’s salary slot. Knicks could do a OG for JJJ swap and follow up with Mitch for Donte swap in some 3way trade.

If I not mistaken if the Memphis renegotiate JJJ salary (adding salary from cap space), they will could offer him a 200M extension.

If true Rich that could absolutely give them a financial advantage in signing him.

[KnixinSix]

Had JJJ made an All-NBA team, he would have been eligible to sign a five-year extension worth up to $345.3 million this offseason. Since he didn’t, the Grizzlies can offer him no more than a four-year extension worth $146.8 million. That’s basically OG’s salary slot. Knicks could do a OG for JJJ swap and follow up with Mitch for Donte swap in some 3way trade.

If I not mistaken if the Memphis renegotiate JJJ salary (adding salary from cap space), they will could offer him a 200M extension.

They are clearing the space to do so. The only way we get him is if he forces his way here.

If the purpose of the Bane trade was intended for JJJ, they likely don't make that move without knowing that JJJ would extend first.

So if that was in fact the driver for the move, he is 80-90% a lock to re-sign there.

But if the motivating factor was not JJJ that would change things obviously. We will know soon...

Also if our Plan A is Giannis , JJJ would probably already know that too and be adjusting accordingly.

[Jalen Bluntson]

If I not mistaken if the Memphis renegotiate JJJ salary (adding salary from cap space), they will could offer him a 200M extension.

They are clearing the space to do so. The only way we get him is if he forces his way here.

If the purpose of the Bane trade was intended for JJJ, they likely don't make that move without knowing that JJJ would extend first.

So if that was in fact the driver for the move, he is 80-90% a lock to re-sign there.

But if the motivating factor was not JJJ that would change things obviously. We will know soon...

Also if our Plan A is Giannis , JJJ would probably already know that too and be adjusting accordingly.

Our plan A is finding a HC. Giannis is obviously not Plan A for players. He's not even on the market. Neither is JJJ.

I think their major focus is on the HC. They have to hire one sooner than later and get his input on the roster/draft first.

The entire league is waiting to see what happens with Giannis. Things may change over the summer but, he's another player who would have to force his way here IMO.

[mpharris36]

i think kd just fits better. doesn't need to be set up as much. another ball handler and playmaker. not the defensive liability. another guy you can give the ball to in the clutch. we got to the point where it was hard to have kat and jalen on the floor together in the playoffs much. we had to stagger them. everyone has seen that now on the big stage and will look to exploit it even more. i don't see that same problem with kd & jalen.

as far as other players we could go after, it doesn't matter much because those guys aren't available.

if he were 2 years younger it would be a no-brainier. but he also wouldn't be available for kat then.

I think it would be double the risk which probably have the Knicks pause.

You have the KD risk of age and health. Then since he's more of a wing. You also put a ton of pressure on Mitch basically being healthy playing a huge roll all season too

KAT is fine at center since typically his offense outweighs his defense but his rebounding is so good you can get away with it.

If you lose Mitch at any point who is rebounding playing center? All in on Hukporti for 30 mins?

KAT gives you more flexibility to play both 4 and 5. Which is helpful to cover up for some injuries.

i don't agree with this. I think history has shown that teams where he plays center have a ceiling. i'm hoping they're not gonna start him there next year again. my guess is they won't because playing that failing starting lineup seemed to be a point of contention between thibs and management. they supposedly wanted mitch to start during the boston series. and duece/brunson are just too small to start together in the backcourt.

and yes they should get another big even if they keep kat. but how ? they really have little to no money to spend. they also need more playmaking and shooting in the starting lineup. they can't fix it all with the pieces they have. so i continue to think that there have to be roster changes and one of mikal or kat has to be the guy to go to make that happen. and i don't think mikal can be treated for a similar level player as easily as kat can right now.

I should have a stated I think he's fine in regular season as a center. In the playoffs certain matchups he can get exploited there especially if they are also targeting brunson as well.