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Re: Preseason Game and PG Thread #2!!!!!!!!!!!-Knicks Vs 76ers 11am Est 

Post#381 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Oct 5, 2025 2:00 pm

Thoughts on Mitch and Huk

If Brown is determined to play 2 bigs, he could have both Mitch and KAT out to start the game and then rotate KAT and Mitch so it's one big at a time (if you consider Yabu and OG to more wings than true 4s) but there's also a world where Huk becomes that backup to Mitch.

That would make Yabu KAT's backup, and if it's Hart backing up the 3, someone is out at the 1/2 backup spots between Deuce, Clarkson and Brogdon.

Good problems to have.

Thinking out loud, Huk is probably the Precious big this year, spot minutes for foul trouble for Mitch,KAT, more time when Mitch or KAT miss games, and most bigs miss 10 games a year, so that's 20 games at least for Huk to get more minutes.

That scenario is more likely to get Brodgon, Deuce, Clarkson and Hart into the rotation.

Again, good problem to have. If Knicks get both Brogdon and Shamet on the team, Knicks will have 12 legitimately playable players.
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Re: Preseason Game and PG Thread #2!!!!!!!!!!!-Knicks Vs 76ers 11am Est 

Post#382 » by BKlutch » Sun Oct 5, 2025 2:19 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Thoughts on Mitch and Huk

If Brown is determined to play 2 bigs, he could have both Mitch and KAT out to start the game and then rotate KAT and Mitch so it's one big at a time (if you consider Yabu and OG to more wings than true 4s) but there's also a world where Huk becomes that backup to Mitch.

That would make Yabu KAT's backup, and if it's Hart backing up the 3, someone is out at the 1/2 backup spots between Deuce, Clarkson and Brogdon.

Good problems to have.

Thinking out loud, Huk is probably the Precious big this year, spot minutes for foul trouble for Mitch,KAT, more time when Mitch or KAT miss games, and most bigs miss 10 games a year, so that's 20 games at least for Huk to get more minutes.

That scenario is more likely to get Brodgon, Deuce, Clarkson and Hart into the rotation.

Again, good problem to have. If Knicks get both Brogdon and Shamet on the team, Knicks will have 12 legitimately playable players.

Thibs played to win every game, no matter the cost to the players. If Brown is willing to allow a few games to slip by in order to give more players time, he will wind up with a fresher team in the playoffs, better reserves, and possbily starters who play even harder during their fewer minutes. Of course, rotations tend to tighten in the playoffs, so we'll see what happens then. But these are the kinds of issues we like to have, not the kind we had for all those years.
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Post#385 » by ctorres » Sun Oct 5, 2025 3:28 pm

I think the Knicks are just gonna draft Brogdon, Shamet, and Matthews in the G-League if we are allowed to do that like we did last year with Shamet and Matt Ryan

Time's running out on a trade and I didn't see any posts with anyone suggesting a team that could realistically absorb Dadiet and Kolek's contracts
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Post#386 » by RHODEY » Sun Oct 5, 2025 3:28 pm

BKlutch wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Thoughts on Mitch and Huk

If Brown is determined to play 2 bigs, he could have both Mitch and KAT out to start the game and then rotate KAT and Mitch so it's one big at a time (if you consider Yabu and OG to more wings than true 4s) but there's also a world where Huk becomes that backup to Mitch.

That would make Yabu KAT's backup, and if it's Hart backing up the 3, someone is out at the 1/2 backup spots between Deuce, Clarkson and Brogdon.

Good problems to have.

Thinking out loud, Huk is probably the Precious big this year, spot minutes for foul trouble for Mitch,KAT, more time when Mitch or KAT miss games, and most bigs miss 10 games a year, so that's 20 games at least for Huk to get more minutes.

That scenario is more likely to get Brodgon, Deuce, Clarkson and Hart into the rotation.

Again, good problem to have. If Knicks get both Brogdon and Shamet on the team, Knicks will have 12 legitimately playable players.

Thibs played to win every game, no matter the cost to the players. If Brown is willing to allow a few games to slip by in order to give more players time, he will wind up with a fresher team in the playoffs, better reserves, and possbily starters who play even harder during their fewer minutes. Of course, rotations tend to tighten in the playoffs, so we'll see what happens then. But these are the kinds of issues we like to have, not the kind we had for all those years.
Ironically I think Thibs lost us
games by employing that strategy to win us more games. We would hang against the elite teams for a while and then the starters would gas out.
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Post#387 » by RHODEY » Sun Oct 5, 2025 3:30 pm

ctorres wrote:I think the Knicks are just gonna draft Brogdon, Shamet, and Matthews in the G-League if we are allowed to do that like we did last year with Shamet and Matt Ryan

Time's running out on a trade and I didn't see any posts with anyone suggesting a team that could realistically absorb Dadiet and Kolek's contracts

I think there are teams that could, problem is neither player is looking too desirable at the moment.
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Post#388 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Oct 5, 2025 3:31 pm

ctorres wrote:I think the Knicks are just gonna draft Brogdon, Shamet, and Matthews in the G-League if we are allowed to do that like we did last year with Shamet and Matt Ryan

Time's running out on a trade and I didn't see any posts with anyone suggesting a team that could realistically absorb Dadiet and Kolek's contracts


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Post#389 » by JayTWill » Sun Oct 5, 2025 4:29 pm

I'd rather take the time to evaluate the vet additions for a few months to see which ones make sense including the guaranteed guys like Clarkson and Yabusele before moving the young guys. Unfortunately there is only room for one more vet between Brogdon, Shamet or someone else. Maybe one of them could be brought in later like Shamet was last year if they decide to one or more of the vets or young guys.

I don't see the point of investing time into Precious and Payne types once again just to bench them in the postseason and watch them walk for nothing in the off-season. If you can't contend with the vets in your top 10 attempting to upgrade your bottom 4-5 probably isn't going to help. I'd rather make sure I get the top 9-10 guys right before moving some of the teams' limited "assets" just to hopefully improve the 11-14 spots.
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Post#390 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Oct 5, 2025 4:33 pm

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Post#391 » by GettinitDone » Sun Oct 5, 2025 6:54 pm

I think Pac would turn it around in a few games... or once the reg season starts

I'm a believer in his talent, and his spacing game fits perfectly with Mike's system
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Post#392 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Oct 5, 2025 7:22 pm

PAC and Kolek can go. Keep Brogdon/Shamet/Matthews and let's rock.
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Post#393 » by Besart19 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 7:38 pm

not signing an ex-Spurs lead assistant to run our halfcourt offense might hurt our chances to win a ring this season
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Post#394 » by ctorres » Sun Oct 5, 2025 8:48 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
ctorres wrote:I think the Knicks are just gonna draft Brogdon, Shamet, and Matthews in the G-League if we are allowed to do that like we did last year with Shamet and Matt Ryan

Time's running out on a trade and I didn't see any posts with anyone suggesting a team that could realistically absorb Dadiet and Kolek's contracts


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Post#395 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Oct 5, 2025 9:41 pm

ctorres wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
ctorres wrote:I think the Knicks are just gonna draft Brogdon, Shamet, and Matthews in the G-League if we are allowed to do that like we did last year with Shamet and Matt Ryan

Time's running out on a trade and I didn't see any posts with anyone suggesting a team that could realistically absorb Dadiet and Kolek's contracts


Huh?


You don't remember bro?

Read on Twitter


We apparently pissed off people around the league with that loophole :lol:


I remember Shamet rehabbing there. I forgot about the draft.
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Post#396 » by ctorres » Sun Oct 5, 2025 10:03 pm

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ctorres wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Huh?


You don't remember bro?

Read on Twitter


We apparently pissed off people around the league with that loophole :lol:


I remember Shamet rehabbing there. I forgot about the draft.


Yeah man, I think we'll have to draft some of our guys unless other teams draft them first.

As of now, we can only sign one veteran among Brogdon, Shamet, and Matthews. Whichever of the two we can't sign, we may just draft in the g-league if we are allowed to do that again.
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Post#397 » by Reign23 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 5:49 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Thoughts on Mitch and Huk

If Brown is determined to play 2 bigs, he could have both Mitch and KAT out to start the game and then rotate KAT and Mitch so it's one big at a time (if you consider Yabu and OG to more wings than true 4s) but there's also a world where Huk becomes that backup to Mitch.

That would make Yabu KAT's backup, and if it's Hart backing up the 3, someone is out at the 1/2 backup spots between Deuce, Clarkson and Brogdon.

Good problems to have.

Thinking out loud, Huk is probably the Precious big this year, spot minutes for foul trouble for Mitch,KAT, more time when Mitch or KAT miss games, and most bigs miss 10 games a year, so that's 20 games at least for Huk to get more minutes.

That scenario is more likely to get Brodgon, Deuce, Clarkson and Hart into the rotation.

Again, good problem to have. If Knicks get both Brogdon and Shamet on the team, Knicks will have 12 legitimately playable players.

agree on everything!
I really want to see what Hukporti can do, if he stays healthy this time. definitely looked promising last season.
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Post#398 » by Reign23 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 5:53 am

fwiw, I don't think Matt Ryan is even a 15th man. Sure, he may shoots lights out in practice, but he's clearly not an nba player.
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Post#400 » by KnixinSix » Mon Oct 6, 2025 12:32 pm

BKlutch wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Thoughts on Mitch and Huk

If Brown is determined to play 2 bigs, he could have both Mitch and KAT out to start the game and then rotate KAT and Mitch so it's one big at a time (if you consider Yabu and OG to more wings than true 4s) but there's also a world where Huk becomes that backup to Mitch.

That would make Yabu KAT's backup, and if it's Hart backing up the 3, someone is out at the 1/2 backup spots between Deuce, Clarkson and Brogdon.

Good problems to have.

Thinking out loud, Huk is probably the Precious big this year, spot minutes for foul trouble for Mitch,KAT, more time when Mitch or KAT miss games, and most bigs miss 10 games a year, so that's 20 games at least for Huk to get more minutes.

That scenario is more likely to get Brodgon, Deuce, Clarkson and Hart into the rotation.

Again, good problem to have. If Knicks get both Brogdon and Shamet on the team, Knicks will have 12 legitimately playable players.

Thibs played to win every game, no matter the cost to the players. If Brown is willing to allow a few games to slip by in order to give more players time, he will wind up with a fresher team in the playoffs, better reserves, and possbily starters who play even harder during their fewer minutes. Of course, rotations tend to tighten in the playoffs, so we'll see what happens then. But these are the kinds of issues we like to have, not the kind we had for all those years.


In Thibs mind thats what he was doing. What he didn't account for is the guys he rode so hard their play often eventually suffered because of it.

Brown is not going to do that. 1. Because he doesn't ride players as hard as Thibs and has more liberal rotations 2. When the FO was interviewing coaches they identified to them high level objectives to correct from the previous year on a coaching level and that was very very likely top 2 on the list.
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