Magic Johnson....Gotta Ask

[fullermd]

HIV wasn't created by the White Man to keep the black man down.

Out of all the insignificant things that you said, what stood out to me is your attempt to slide in this mockery of a cliche' that is joked about in white conservative circles. History (recent history not ancient) and current-day statistics speak volumes regarding the atrocities that have been committed against Black People in this country.

HIV/AIDS is more realistic than not, a continuation of this paradigm spread to black/brown/yellow ethnic regions around the globe, with a specific purpose. There are federal records in this country that document human experimentation that ultimately lead to the death of those in the experimental group.

Many people don't want to consider this, because they don't want to believe that we live in a world which contains members of the human family with such diabolical and satanic dispositions. But, this unquestionably IS the case. That mindset is usually masked with mocking cliches that are comfortably said in the open, and laughed about behind closed doors.

[NyKnicks1714]

Seriously, ever single post you make is either Walsh-bashing or about race. Literally every single post as far as I can recall.

If that is what you got from it, don't worry about it..... go to bed.

Out of all the insignificant things that you said

You seriously have the nerve to be condescending like that? I love how when people provide you with facts to dispute your opinion, you always ignore them because you simply don't like what you're hearing.

Magic has kept his HIV down because it was caught early and because he can afford treatment. This isn't an uncommon thing. Can people in poor/impoverished countries afford such treatment? No, but that's the same with any disease, and you can apply it to food/water/clothing/shelter too.

Is there evidence to support the idea that HIV/AIDS was deliberately created by man? Sure, same as there's evidence to support just about anything. However there's 1000x more logical evidence to support the idea that it wasn't, and you can't go around acting like your opinion is fact.

[4PointPlay]

Seriously, ever single post you make is either Walsh-bashing or about race. Literally every single post as far as I can recall.

Yep. You would have though someone who was so passionate about race would spend their free time actually doing something about it. Instead, he spends his time preaching to/insulting users of a basketball forum.

eActivist. If you feel so strongly about something then that's awesome. Go do something about it. Most of us come to this forum to debate about basketball in our free time, the last thing most of us want to see is borderline insulting/racist rhetoric. Thats why the philosophy/political threads are kept seperate, so those of us who don't really care for those things aren't bothered by them.

Also, 1714, there might be some link between Walsh being white and fullermd not liking him.

[Christophersp10]

Fuller, you are so right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The govt created Aids to kill off the gays first. Because that is all who died from HIV at the start. The Govt was soooooo smart that they knew that Aids would then affect the Herion community and then Hemophiliacs and everybody else. The govt created HIV to keep the Ryan Whites of the world down and 6 feet under. The U.S. govt was so smart that they were able to forsee that HIV would then go to India and Africa and wipe out millions.


It has nothing to do with the fact that the majority in India, Africa, Thailand and every other 3rd world nation cannot afford health care, uneducated, taught that using condoms was birth control and a sin and some even believed that sex with virgins was a cure.

The U.S. govt just had CIA agents, FBI and deep cover OPS people round up all the Blacks, Indians and Asians so the White Man can inject every single one of them with HIV. It's all one big conspiracy because the U.S. Govt is trying to be the next Nazi Germany and create the supreme race with nobody else. I wonder when we are going to go after Mexico.

[Christophersp10]

HIV wasn't created by the White Man to keep the black man down.

Out of all the insignificant things that you said, what stood out to me is your attempt to slide in this mockery of a cliche' that is joked about in white conservative circles. History (recent history not ancient) and current-day statistics speak volumes regarding the atrocities that have been committed against Black People in this country.

HIV/AIDS is more realistic than not, a continuation of this paradigm spread to black/brown/yellow ethnic regions around the globe, with a specific purpose. There are federal records in this country that document human experimentation that ultimately lead to the death of those in the experimental group.

Many people don't want to consider this, because they don't want to believe that we live in a world which contains members of the human family with such diabolical and satanic dispositions. But, this unquestionably IS the case. That mindset is usually masked with mocking cliches that are comfortably said in the open, and laughed about behind closed doors.

Yup, the history of Aids is insignificant. Have you read And The Band Played On? It was written by Randy Shilts who was a newspaper reporter and died in the mid 1990's. He was also gay and died of Aids. I am sure he wrote the book with a U.S. Govt agenda behind it. Right! The guy spent his final years researching and writing the book which came out in what? 1989, 1990? I love how the History of HIV is insignificant.


Fuller, who were the first group of people to contract and die from HIV?

Gay WHITE Males.

[ITGM]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBeA9flJUzo&feature=related[/youtube]
How Race plays a part


Understanding the design

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wmVwuycWME&feature=related[/youtube]
PT 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BQGXUoMZlY
PT2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBeA9flJ ... re=related
PT3


Wiki's take on CCR5 Delta32 negative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCR5

CCR5-Δ32 is a deletion mutation of a gene that has a specific impact on the function of T cells. CCR5-Δ32 is widely dispersed throughout Northern Europe and in those of Northern European descent. It has been hypothesized that this allele was favored by natural selection during the Black Death. This coalescence date is contradicted by purported evidence of CCR5-Δ32 in Bronze Age samples, at levels comparable to the modern European population.[8] Research from The University of California at Berkeley published in 2003 indicates that smallpox may be another candidate for the high level of the mutation in the European population.[6]

While CCR5 has multiple variants in its coding region, the deletion of a 32-bp segment results in a nonfunctional receptor, thus preventing HIV R5 entry; two copies of this allele provide strong protection against HIV infection.[10] This allele is found in 5-14% of Europeans but is rare in Africans and Asians.[11] Multiple studies of HIV-infected persons have shown that presence of one copy of this allele delays progression to the condition of AIDS by about 2 years. CCR5-Δ32 decreases the number of CCR5 proteins on the outside of the CD4 cell, which can have a large effect on the HIV disease progression rates. It is possible that a person with the CCR5-Δ32 receptor allele will not be infected with HIV R5 strains. Several commercial testing companies offer tests for CCR5-Δ32.
In 2008, German doctors announced that an HIV-infected leukemia patient had received a bone marrow transplant from a donor who is homozygous for the CCR5-Δ32 trait. After 600 days, the patient was healthy and had undetectable levels of HIV in the blood and in examined brain and rectal tissues.

[King of Troy]

Fuller is like a kid who sticks his fingers in his ears and goes "lalalalala..I can't hear you!"

Still waiting on a response to my post from before where I showed through a basic understanding of economics that killing black South Africans was detrimental to the continued dominance of South African whites.

People who make race an issue are all the same. A guy blaming whites for being "diabolical" is no different then some white redneck blaming someone who is Hispanic for "taking his job." It is all bull. Race is scientifically arbitrary. The individual is what matters. A guy who is an **** is an **** regardless of what race he is. Grouping distinct individuals into groups and labeling them is just beyond ignorant.

[AirPaden]

Magic Johnson is approaching 20years as a carrier of the HIV virus. He has not contracted AIDS and shows no symptons that would implicate a shortened life as a result of carrying the HIV virus. This is occuring while countless numbers of human beings in centralized geographical locations throughout Africa, Asia, South(Latin) America and America's inner cities are ravaged by this virus.

I am a Magic Fan and think that the world is a better place because of his past and ongoing contributions to it. But he IS nearly a billionaire, while the people that contract the HIV virus and almost always eventually die of AIDS are poor and disadvantaged. What is this saying? Magic is and exceptional human being, but as you younger guys may say: 'Comon Son'.

Diminished (deceptively conservative) statistics reveal that the AIDS virus will claim nearly 100million lives since 1981 by the end of 2010. These lives are by and large represented by Africans and other populations world-wide that represent descendents of Africans and Southeast Asia. South Africa (the most mineral rich region of the entire world) represents a disproportionate number of infections and deaths (>97% indigenous African/negroid). The number of AIDS deaths in the inner city, and current rate of contraction there are alarmingly disproportionate.

We are awesome at the diagnosis and disection of even the most complex and intriguing of problems both social and technical in nature. However, the profoundly obvious nature of this issue alludes all of us for some reason and loses its undeniable transparency when engaged by our cognitive abilities.

Why can't we see the writing on the wall, when it is written in the blood of nearly 100million human lives? I think we all can see it, but those that have a heart of flesh that is not diabolical in nature, refuse to face the reality that this situation has the finger-prints of greed and hatred/fear all over it. We don't want to face the reality that we live in a world that contains other members of the human family that have used the gift of knowledge to wage a form of warfare against other members of humanity that is inhuman and PURELY SATANIC in nature.

We ignore the obvious nature of this. Our hearts and minds don't really want to grasp the gravity of what we are facing. Nevertheless, it is always better to face reality, no matter how soberingly disgusting it may be. Those that have waged this war against the poor, disadvantaged, and SEEMINGLY powerless masses have done so realizing that the abscence of true knowledge/education which is the only thing that will transfer truth and unity to the masses, is all that is needed to perpetuate their wicked world dominance (ie human death for the lust of greed and power).

I know this reality is hard to face, but as we get closer to the light of this world our recognition of its darkness is effortlessly life changing.

Hey Brother did it evere dawn on you that Magic never had the so called Hiv virus? It's all about the Benjamins and pure greed over humanity, Look up Hiv lies to get the other side of hiv and aids that you will never hear or see on the major networks or radio stations. The Truth Shall Set You Free

[AirPaden]

Fuller is like a kid who sticks his fingers in his ears and goes "lalalalala..I can't hear you!"

Still waiting on a response to my post from before where I showed through a basic understanding of economics that killing black South Africans was detrimental to the continued dominance of South African whites.

People who make race an issue are all the same. A guy blaming whites for being "diabolical" is no different then some white redneck blaming someone who is Hispanic for "taking his job." It is all bull. Race is scientifically arbitrary. The individual is what matters. A guy who is an **** is an **** regardless of what race he is. Grouping distinct individuals into groups and labeling them is just beyond ignorant.

It's more about economics and power than color. But hey do need SLAVES to stay in power, and it don't matter if you are white or black. You pay taxes, you are a slave. Period Try to drive around withour paying to register your vehicle, see what happens to you. There is a lot more that you have to pay for, but this is not the forum for this discussion.

[Capn'O]

I'm confused...

are you saying:

(A) The fact that Magic has not died shows that AIDS doesn't really kill, and that all the people that supposedly die of AIDS are being murdered in the name of greed, with AIDS serving as the cover-up?

or

(B) The fact that Magic has not died shows that there is a cure for AIDS that is not being disseminated?

(A) is absurb, so you must be saying (B). A possible answer that does not necessarily involve greed or hate is that Magic puts a ton of money into treating his HIV and that while it's a fair point to say we should be more charitable in treating diseases and other epidemics, there are a ton of other problems for which the same could be said. It might be the case that for every dollar we donate, we can save 5 lives from some other epidemic for every one we save from AIDS.

B

Ah. Good.

This post just got you off my ignore list.

(I can't STAND what you say regarding the Knicks)

[Christophersp10]

I think the Rich Black Man from Africa created HIV to keep the poor black man down and dead.


It must be true because my BS theory has the same logic as Fuller.


I am still shocked that this troll and racist is allowed to post on here.

[Capn'O]

This thread makes no sense.

Why would people create AIDS for wealth? What is the benefit of killing those who are poor and can't afford medicine? I could see infecting the rich so that you can make a huge killing in pharmaceuticals, but that doesn't exactly make any sense for killing off the poor. There isn't really any correlation there.

Anyone can make grand statements, but can you logically back any of them up?

In the 1950's the black to white population in South Africa was >15:1, now it is 10:1. 95% of Black South Africans live in poverty while less than 1% of White South Africans live in poverty. The average white household income is 8 times the average Black South African household income. Nearly .8million will die from AIDS in South Africa this year alone, only .3% are White, nearly all others are indigenous blacks. Nearly 40% of all black pregnant women are affected with HIV. South Africa is the most mineral and natural resourced region on the entire planet. Nearly 90% of it population is still black, inspite of the millons of deaths from AIDS. The blacks that make up nearly 90% of the population control less than .5% of the nations resources/wealth.

These statistics have to be researched and consolidated from a number of sources. The obvious ridiculous nature of this situation is pathetic. How is inequality in both wealth and suffering of this magnitude acceptable? It is not acceptable, it is simply a function of greed and hatred. HIV/AIDS is a weapon.

Why is that beneficial though?

If Whites dominate S.A. economically, then why kill Blacks off? The wealthy need poor people to work for them, to run their factories and make them wealthier.

It seems more like you're making a racial statement then one based on wealth.

But then again, lets say Whites kill a lot or all of Black South Africans. That is actually bad for the whites with money. It devalues their wealth. 100k is worth a lot when the average wages are 4k. Eliminating the poor would actually increase inflation at a very fast rate. It is beneficial for the rich to have as much poor people as possible.

I think it is the opposite than what Fuller said. There is not yet any economic benefit of making these drugs available (probably an economic liability to the companies) and this only a few yet have access to them.

The effect is still the same. Johnson's case shows that there are ways of keeping the virus in submission that are not being made available in a more widespread way. It is certainly concerning and something I wish there was more public dialogue about. .