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[Camelo Thread Part 20] - NYK Meeting W/ Melo on Fri (Pg 52)

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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#41 » by taj2133 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:08 pm

I don't know if this has been post on other melo threads but ken berger of cbs sports said no meeting have been set up.

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LOS ANGELES -- Amid revived discussions between the Nuggets and Nets on a blockbuster trade that would send Carmelo Anthony to New Jersey, the tipping point remains as it has always been: Will Anthony take the ultimate deciding step and meet with Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov to indicate his willingness to sign a contract extension as part of a trade?

A possible three-team deal in which the Nets would give up a staggering haul of four first-round picks to lure the three-time All Star away from his preferred choice, the Knicks, cannot move forward without the Nets' owner finally getting his chance to sell Anthony on being the centerpiece of the franchise's move to Brooklyn. However, CBSSports.com has learned that Anthony personally has not agreed to such a meeting during All-Star weekend, despite reports that his representatives have already arranged it.

The New York Daily News reported Friday that Anthony is scheduled not only to meet with Prokhorov, but also Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan -- setting up dueling free-agent summits reminiscent of the teams' courtship of LeBron James in July.

A firm answer won't come until Friday afternoon, when Anthony will address the media as part of the scheduled All-Star interview sessions. The opportunity to meet with Prokhorov -- if, in fact, the Russian has changed his mind about ending his team's pursuit of Anthony -- represents the final step in determining whether the Nets' months-long pursuit of the All-Star can continue or not. After it became known that the Nets and Nuggets had re-engaged in talks after Prokhorov ordered GM Billy King to walk away from the negotiating table Jan. 19, Prokhorov's spokesperson, Ellen Pinchuk, told the Associated Press, "Mikhail has not changed his mind."

The latest incarnation of the New Jersey deal has the Nets sending Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and Ben Uzoh to the Nuggets along with four first-round picks for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, and Renaldo Balkman. In addition, Yahoo! Sports reported that Troy Murphy and his $12 million expiring contract would be sent to a third team, which would receive compensation in the form of one or two of the first-round picks from New Jersey.

The Nuggets, who privately have expected to someday revive the New Jersey talks since Prokhorov ended them last month, prefer this deal to anything the Knicks have been willing to offer. One person connected to the talks described the New Jersey deal as a leverage play that would force the Knicks to come to the table with their best offer for Anthony, who has long been determined to agree to a three-year, $65 million extension only with the Knicks if traded before the Feb. 24 deadline.

"It's good pressure for the Knicks," the person connected to the talks said.

The Knicks have balked at Denver's demands for Anthony, believing their best chance to build a championship team around the All-Star tandem of Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire would be to sign Anthony as a free agent after he opts out of his $18.5 million contract for next season. Knicks president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni have remained steadfast in their belief that they cannot afford to gut the team to get Anthony and leave themselves without payroll flexibility to build around him -- flexibility Walsh spent the past 2 1-2 years creating after years of mismanagement at Madison Square Garden.

Indeed, Prokhorov won't be the only billionaire roaming the hotel hallways in Beverly Hills and Los Angeles Friday. Dolan's presence for league meetings and a collective bargaining session has further stoked speculation that he will overrule his basketball people and authorize a lopsided trade in the face of the Nuggets' renewed leverage with the Nets.

Anthony has delivered consistently mixed signals about his willingness to meet with Prokhorov, a necessary step in completing the trade to New Jersey. When stories broke prematurely last month that the Nuggets had given the Nets permission to speak with Anthony directly, Anthony reacted dismissively after a game in San Antonio and said, "I let the front office handle that type of stuff. ... That's not my job to do."

Days later, after Prokhorov pulled the plug, Anthony conceded, "I would've taken that meeting."

This weekend in L.A., it will be hard for this sought-after millionaire to hide from the billionaires courting him.

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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#42 » by Jitpal » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:09 pm

taj2133 wrote:I don't know if this has been post on other melo threads but ken berger of cbs sports said no meeting have been set up.

Welcome to the Melo free-agent summit

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LOS ANGELES -- Amid revived discussions between the Nuggets and Nets on a blockbuster trade that would send Carmelo Anthony to New Jersey, the tipping point remains as it has always been: Will Anthony take the ultimate deciding step and meet with Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov to indicate his willingness to sign a contract extension as part of a trade?

A possible three-team deal in which the Nets would give up a staggering haul of four first-round picks to lure the three-time All Star away from his preferred choice, the Knicks, cannot move forward without the Nets' owner finally getting his chance to sell Anthony on being the centerpiece of the franchise's move to Brooklyn. However, CBSSports.com has learned that Anthony personally has not agreed to such a meeting during All-Star weekend, despite reports that his representatives have already arranged it.

The New York Daily News reported Friday that Anthony is scheduled not only to meet with Prokhorov, but also Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan -- setting up dueling free-agent summits reminiscent of the teams' courtship of LeBron James in July.

A firm answer won't come until Friday afternoon, when Anthony will address the media as part of the scheduled All-Star interview sessions. The opportunity to meet with Prokhorov -- if, in fact, the Russian has changed his mind about ending his team's pursuit of Anthony -- represents the final step in determining whether the Nets' months-long pursuit of the All-Star can continue or not. After it became known that the Nets and Nuggets had re-engaged in talks after Prokhorov ordered GM Billy King to walk away from the negotiating table Jan. 19, Prokhorov's spokesperson, Ellen Pinchuk, told the Associated Press, "Mikhail has not changed his mind."

The latest incarnation of the New Jersey deal has the Nets sending Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and Ben Uzoh to the Nuggets along with four first-round picks for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, and Renaldo Balkman. In addition, Yahoo! Sports reported that Troy Murphy and his $12 million expiring contract would be sent to a third team, which would receive compensation in the form of one or two of the first-round picks from New Jersey.

The Nuggets, who privately have expected to someday revive the New Jersey talks since Prokhorov ended them last month, prefer this deal to anything the Knicks have been willing to offer. One person connected to the talks described the New Jersey deal as a leverage play that would force the Knicks to come to the table with their best offer for Anthony, who has long been determined to agree to a three-year, $65 million extension only with the Knicks if traded before the Feb. 24 deadline.

"It's good pressure for the Knicks," the person connected to the talks said.

The Knicks have balked at Denver's demands for Anthony, believing their best chance to build a championship team around the All-Star tandem of Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire would be to sign Anthony as a free agent after he opts out of his $18.5 million contract for next season. Knicks president Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni have remained steadfast in their belief that they cannot afford to gut the team to get Anthony and leave themselves without payroll flexibility to build around him -- flexibility Walsh spent the past 2 1-2 years creating after years of mismanagement at Madison Square Garden.

Indeed, Prokhorov won't be the only billionaire roaming the hotel hallways in Beverly Hills and Los Angeles Friday. Dolan's presence for league meetings and a collective bargaining session has further stoked speculation that he will overrule his basketball people and authorize a lopsided trade in the face of the Nuggets' renewed leverage with the Nets.

Anthony has delivered consistently mixed signals about his willingness to meet with Prokhorov, a necessary step in completing the trade to New Jersey. When stories broke prematurely last month that the Nuggets had given the Nets permission to speak with Anthony directly, Anthony reacted dismissively after a game in San Antonio and said, "I let the front office handle that type of stuff. ... That's not my job to do."

Days later, after Prokhorov pulled the plug, Anthony conceded, "I would've taken that meeting."

This weekend in L.A., it will be hard for this sought-after millionaire to hide from the billionaires courting him.

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/m ... 3/27563182

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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#43 » by NYK Dolemite » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:10 pm

kingquan316 wrote:If I was Dolan, I would tell melo "u know what the knicks have that the nets don't, this guy............"

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If I was Dolan, I'd say "We'll trade for you if it won't castrate our future or we'll give you whatever the new max is down the road."

'Melo isn't Harrison Barnes. This ain't a high school trip. In fact, I have no idea why the Knicks would meet with him. We know he'll sign a max deal if traded for -- and no way Denver grants permission for the Knicks to meet with Melo and say "Screw Denver, just hold tight and we'll max you in the summer."

Cannot see how a Dolan/Melo meeting happens. Denver would have to be galactically stupid to give Dolan permission to say "How is Lala -- I like her work, think she would like a 4 year 82 million dollar gig to host Fashion Frenzy w/ Clyde and LaLa?"
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#44 » by tangotai » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:10 pm

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Houston99 wrote:i dont really care what happens anymore. if melo comes here great if he doesnt i could care less. i am sick of this crap


Sure you do. You want him to come to NY. And he will...have faith. Have I ever steered you guys wrong?


Not only will he come here.... we are in for Melo's version of the decision.
The Nyets/Nugs deal is made... it hinges on Melo agreeing to sign and xtension with them...
Melo meets with Prokhobo over AS and tells reporters he is going to take a day to think about and will announce his decision on Monday....

The world waits for Melos's decision .... the Melocision!

But I have a scoop.... Melo poops on Nyets and says how much he enjoyed his meeting with Prokhobo but he will not sign an xtension with them "at this time"

The next day he is traded to NYK. for the can of chicken something or other that moocom offered PLUS Clyde_Style's ham sandwich.... oh and they insist on the pink panties that Pharmcat was forced to wear because he said "get it done donnie" too many times.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#45 » by Jay10 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:11 pm

lol@ people are reading into the "meeting" wrong
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#46 » by Knicker23 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:11 pm

Jay10 wrote:
Knicker23 wrote:Hahn was the bearer of bad news with James, hopefully this will be different.


stephen a smith says "hello"


He's the guy that had it right all along... Hahn was the first to break it in the 11th hour at 2 am before the decision
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Post#47 » by cgmw » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:11 pm

moocow007 wrote:Someone get the Knicks City Dancer "rear view" pic from the last thread into this thread.


You know what else the Knicks have that the Nets don't? Amanda B.
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Can't wait to put this Melodrama in the Rear View.

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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#48 » by Phish Tank » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:12 pm

Hold up, let's get some perspective here:

The Nets give up:

Starting PG Devin Harris
Rookie PF Derrick Favors
Bench guy Troy Murphy
Ben Uzoh????
4 FIRST ROUND PICKS!?!?!!??!??!!?!?!?!?

For:

Melo
Starting PG Chauncey Billups
Scrub Sheldon Williams
Melvin Ely???
Balkman rofl

First off, the Nuggets are getting much more back in this deal. I wouldn't want to give up that much for Melo anyways.

Second, those four first round picks are going to hurt.

Third, the Nuggets only really get 2 usable players back in this deal.

Fourth, the Nets are basically going to turn into basically the East Coast Nuggets, probably even worse. They have no frontcourt outside of Brook Lopez. In fact, the Nets would be worse than the Nuggets with Melo. The following teams are better than them:

1. Miami
2. Boston
3. Chicago
4. Orlando
5. Atlanta
6. Knicks

If that is what it takes for the Nyets to get Melo, then it's not worth it. First round picks are too valuable. We're not giving up all our young guys. And we'll still beat them anyways.

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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#49 » by defjux21 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:12 pm

tangotai wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Houston99 wrote:i dont really care what happens anymore. if melo comes here great if he doesnt i could care less. i am sick of this crap


Sure you do. You want him to come to NY. And he will...have faith. Have I ever steered you guys wrong?


Not only will he come here.... we are in for Melo's version of the decision.
The Nyets/Nugs deal is made... it hinges on Melo agreeing to sign and xtension with them...
Melo meets with Prokhobo over AS and tells reporters he is going to take a day to think about and will announce his decision on Monday....

The world waits for Melos's decision .... the Melocision!

But I have a scoop.... Melo poops on Nyets and says how much he enjoyed his meeting with Prokhobo but he will not sign an xtension with them "at this time"

The next day he is traded to NYK. for the can of chicken something or other that moocom offered PLUS Clyde_Style's ham sandwich.... oh and they insist on the pink panties that Pharmcat was forced to wear because he said "get it done donnie" too many times.

I believe it was ostrich, but carry on.
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#50 » by aggo » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:12 pm

https://twitter.com/abjcavsinsider/stat ... 7851536384

got it from the GB

honestly, cant make this stuff up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#51 » by Jay10 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:13 pm

Knicker23 wrote:
Jay10 wrote:
Knicker23 wrote:Hahn was the bearer of bad news with James, hopefully this will be different.


stephen a smith says "hello"


He's the guy that had it right all along... Hahn was the first to break it in the 11th hour at 2 am before the decision


if SAS went on every radio station in the country and said "lebron to miami", wouldn't he be the first to break the story?

SAS broke it 2-3 weeks before the decision
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Post#52 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:13 pm

Are we there yet?
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Post#53 » by LOOTERX9 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:13 pm

If the Knicks let the Nets get Carmelo, The f*cking Nets! It will be an EPIC FAILURE!!!! Knicks will be mediocre like the Hawks for next 5 yrs!!
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#54 » by AllanHoustonFan » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:14 pm

AggO wrote:https://twitter.com/abjcavsinsider/status/38661567851536384

got it from the GB

honestly, cant make this stuff up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



:o


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#55 » by NYK0605 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:14 pm

So was "Denver wanting Gallo, Chandler, Fields, Mozgov, Felton, pick" true or not?

Because why the hell would they raise their offer after the Knicks rejected Felton, Gallo, pick, and another starter?
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Post#56 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:14 pm

AggO wrote:https://twitter.com/abjcavsinsider/status/38661567851536384

got it from the GB

honestly, cant make this stuff up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If true....wow.
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Post#57 » by Fat Man » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:15 pm

lol @ francessa killing the nets
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Post#58 » by NYman15 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:15 pm

Unbeliable I can't believe it
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Post#59 » by Jitpal » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:16 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
AggO wrote:https://twitter.com/abjcavsinsider/status/38661567851536384

got it from the GB

honestly, cant make this stuff up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If true....wow.
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Cavs were just going to take 1/2 draft picks to take on Murphy's deal. They aren't integral to it. I wouldn't call it a dead deal. I mean, Melo not agreeing would make it a dead deal. Not dead yet though. -Jitpal
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Re: [Camelo Thread Part 20] - Down to the Wire? 

Post#60 » by delvec19 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:16 pm

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multiple sources continue to maintain that Melo not expected to extend with NJ

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