What Josh Harrellson Brings To the Knicks [Heat Related]

[MaseInYourFace]

Bottom line knicks drafted two mature defensive oriented guys. As a fan who grew up on 90's Knick ball I'm very content with that.

[moocow007]

Bottom line knicks drafted two mature defensive oriented guys. As a fan who grew up on 90's Knick ball I'm very content with that.

If they can actually produced like the 90's Knick players did I'd be thrilled. I think Shumpert has the potential to be a game changer type IF he focuses and matures (he was a bit out of control at times at GTech). Really like his energy and enthusiasm and have to love his physical package.

[dreamer3kx]

HA! Awesome, hard fouls all day.

[taj2133]

He did do good against unc nba big guys he also did good against jurred sulleniger of ohio state who is supposely a top ten pick.

[moocow007]

He did do good against unc nba big guys he also did good against jurred sulleniger of ohio state who is supposely a top ten pick.

Oh absolutely, but you know what, every guy has had at least one great game against a great player. Does anyone really believe he'd be able to do that repeatedly to a guy like Sullinger? That's the thing about looking at one great game. I mean Jerome James had a great playoff series in the NBA and that didn't make him any better than what he really was in the long run.

Just hope for the best which I think is about Brockman level and anything is cake. People that are trying to see him and build him up into something that IMHO is not realistic is just going to be dissapointed.

[magnumt]

lol...I'll make a sig bet with the first guy that agrees that Harrellson won't play more than 50 minutes the entire season.

Don't care. We NEED a tough-guy like him. The last one we had was Kurt. He can rack up time with Rautins in the D-League for all I care, but he's going to at least get a TON of chances down there in the NBDL and here on our Team.

He's a cross IMO between DLee and Kurt Thomas.

Except for being slower, fatter and less skilled than either Lee or Thomas, I agree.

Oh come one, lets not do revisionist history Moo. DLee was more athletic than Harrellson, but BOTH play similar Games. Lee's shot was NOT reliable and HORRIBLE his 1st couple of Years on his Rookie deal.

People thought he was just another Mark Madsen type hustle Player, and wouldn't get much burn off the Bench and would be a Career Role Player.

Where is DLee now?!

Also, Harrellson had guys in front of him Kentucky in his earlier Years @Kentucky, and when he FINALLY got his chance he produced. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand did so on the biggest College Stage (NCAA Tourney) AND against the Top Big Man Prospects in 2012.

Wassup Moo?!

FWIW...Wally Szcerbiak was on with Carton this morning and LOVED this pickup by the Knicks. He raved about this kid.

Yeah, he reminds me of a cross between DLee & KT.

--Mags

I thought Harrellson had the temperment of a KT. Just has that crazy glare in his eyes, gives hard fouls with no apology and goes full tilt, practice or game day. It's just what the Knicks need.

My only concern is that he's gotta lose more weight. I know his improved conditioning played a big part in his tournament run, but my guess is as he continued to lose more weight through the season, his game improved. Getting down to 260 or less has to be a goal for him.

Whether here or in our D-League Erie Team, dude will be running up-n-down the court with more minutes than a College Game...I can definitely seem him drop about 10 Pounds w/ ease.

Remember, in College (even in Top/Rich Programs) you don't have the access to the type of support-system, money, and Professional help that you can get with an NBA Team (ESPECIALLY like the Knicks), where you'll have access to Nutritionists, and Personal Trainers.

However long Turiaf is here for, I can see them going at it in Practice.

--Mags

[magnumt]

HA! Awesome, hard fouls all day.

[tuckerfor3]

Tenacity, toughness and jeans shorts.

[TrueWarrior]

Ill be very happy if this guy can just make the team and be that high character / hard working / obligatory 12th man for us. He def has to get in, and stay in, better shape before he can ever think about playing for us. Hes actually a decent athlete, but his standing reach is only 8'8.5'' which is 2 inches shorter than Markieff Morris'.

Harrellson has alot going against him to become an NBA player, but you cant question his heart, motor, and toughness. Those are traits that are hard to come by in big men these days. At best Im hoping he can be a goon type to give us 10 mpg at some point, but Im not expecting it. Just happy to have the big guy on board.

[Thugger HBC]

Ill be very happy if this guy can just make the team and be that high character / hard working / obligatory 12th man for us. He def has to get in, and stay in, better shape before he can ever think about playing for us. Hes actually a decent athlete, but his standing reach is only 8'8.5'' which is 2 inches shorter than Markieff Morris'.

Harrellson has alot going against him to become an NBA player, but you cant question his heart, motor, and toughness. Those are traits that are hard to come by in big men these days. At best Im hoping he can be a goon type to give us 10 mpg at some point, but Im not expecting it. Just happy to have the big guy on board.

Party pooper.

We don't have any bigmen on the roster.

His six hard fouls will be greatly needed.

[thehandler3]

I really liked this pick-up. He's the type of tough guy, enforcer we need next to Amare. He was one fo the better post-defenders in college basketball and his improvement throughout the season was a big reason why UK went as far as it is. He's the typical goon center we need.

[TrueWarrior]

Party pooper.

We don't have any bigmen on the roster.

His six hard fouls will be greatly needed.

I highly doubt he will ever use all 6 of his fouls, unless you think he will get a foul a minute and foul out in 6 minutes .

Listen I like the pickup though. Harellson is like the anti Jerome Jordan. Doesnt have the size, skill, or athleticism of Jordan but has 100x the gangsta. There were probably a couple more NBA ready athletes like Greg Smith and Willie Reed we could have gotten instead, but they dont have the mentality that Harrellson brings. I think we needed a guy like Harrellson at the end of the bench, so Im happy.

[Thugger HBC]

Party pooper.

We don't have any bigmen on the roster.

His six hard fouls will be greatly needed.

I highly doubt he will ever use all 6 of his fouls, unless you think he will get a foul a minute and foul out in 6 minutes .

Listen I like the pickup though. Harellson is like the anti Jerome Jordan. Doesnt have the size, skill, or athleticism of Jordan but has 100x the gangsta. There were probably a couple more NBA ready athletes like Greg Smith and Willie Reed we could have gotten instead, but they dont have the mentality that Harrellson brings. I think we needed a guy like Harrellson at the end of the bench, so Im happy.

With our Center rotation currently, yeah, he would get to use those fouls.

As much as I like Turiaf, he's made of glass, and will miss games for sure.

I like the pick as well though, but he isn't the answer, but it's a help.

[Day_Man]

every good team needs a guy like this

prediction: PAIN

[Manhattan Project]

lol...I'll make a sig bet with the first guy that agrees that Harrellson won't play more than 50 minutes the entire season.

[blueNorange]

remember what walsh said 2 years ago?

he's not only looking at talent, he's looking at makeup ... harrellson's story of hard work paying off is the definition of that. he wanted it, he took his opportunity and made the most of it. because of that he's now in the nba, something 6 months ago wouldn't be a thought.

[Charsace]

What I want from him is 10-15 minutes of hustle play and 1 goon body a week. A kill shot on KG, one of the Miami 3, a top 15 player or D'Antoni would be **** great.

[moocow007]

Don't care. We NEED a tough-guy like him. The last one we had was Kurt. He can rack up time with Rautins in the D-League for all I care, but he's going to at least get a TON of chances down there in the NBDL and here on our Team.

He's a cross IMO between DLee and Kurt Thomas.

Except for being slower, fatter and less skilled than either Lee or Thomas, I agree.

Oh come one, lets not do revisionist history Moo. DLee was more athletic than Harrellson, but BOTH play similar Games. Lee's shot was NOT reliable and HORRIBLE his 1st couple of Years on his Rookie deal.

Absolutely not. I can say that with certainty. I was NOT one of those guys that said WTF with the Lee pick (as I'm doing now with Harrellson). Was very familiar with Lee when he was at Florida. In fact Lee was a HS slam dunk champ. So most definitely not comparing Lee to Harrellson is just off base. Lee was skilled, has always been skilled. He was a terrific passer at Florida under Donovan, ran the floor well, played the paint, did pretty much everything. Harrellson doesn't have anywhere near anything Lee had at Florida. If all we are comparing between Lee and Harrellson is their shot, sure that might be closer, but Harrellson is nothing like Lee in any respect at any point anywhere. Come on...I'm surprised you're actually comparing the two.

People thought he was just another Mark Madsen type hustle Player, and wouldn't get much burn off the Bench and would be a Career Role Player.

Where is DLee now?!

Never compared Madsen to Lee or Lee to Madsen. Don't know about anyone else, but again, very familiar with Lee. Mentioned Lee as an option for the Knicks. Was not upset when Thomas picked him. Harrellson? Yeah, upset. Not a good pick. Not that he's a useless player but he'd have gone undrafted absolutely, absolutely and the Knicks could have just picked him up as a FA. Selby or Macklin or several other guys taken should have been the ones the Knicks went after.

Also, Harrellson had guys in front of him Kentucky in his earlier Years @Kentucky, and when he FINALLY got his chance he produced. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand did so on the biggest College Stage (NCAA Tourney) AND against the Top Big Man Prospects in 2012.

Wassup Moo?!

The wassup is that he's just not a player that should have been selected with a purchased 2nd round pick.

He's not Lee II, he's not Kurt Thomas II (and I also have seen Thomas at TCU...benefit of being old...and nothing like Harrellson either). Thomas was a real good athlete before his knees started balking on him early in his NBA career. Was a top notch collegiate offensive player (lead the nation in scoring at 28+ per game as a senior)...terrific post guy...strong rebounder.

I mean if you're just talking about jumpshooting at their respective poitns in their career then that's one thing, but Harrellson overall is nothing like Lee or Thomas was.

[Brownsville's Finest]

Brownsville's Finest approves this pick

[thehandler3]

every good team needs a guy like this

prediction: PAIN

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