1/16 Orlando Postgame thread

[br7knicks]

they shot their open shots well. we didn't. it was really that simple.

so you don't think novak or josh should have been in the game at all?

especially towards the end. jorts has been doing great.

and how the hell do the knicks not play defense against the outside shooters. in rec league, if a guy isn't hitting 3's, you back off. if he starts hitting, you get in his face and not let him shoot any more 3's.

yeah, GONYK, the magic just shot the hell out of the ball. but it was also because no one was defending them. the magic shooters did what they're paid to do. against any other team with a coach that makes adjustments, the magic are going to get pecker smacked

[KnicksChamps]

tyson chandler didn't step out on the shooter on ALL the screens and it killed us. the magic got all those open 3s

If he steps out, Dwight will easily go ape sh*t on us

[GONYK]

He absolutely got out talented. They have a better collection of role players who showed up today in a big way.

he absolutely did not get out talented. all of those role players could have been contained. especially with the players the knicks could've used to contain them. all those role players do is one thing and one thing only. all they had to do was stop that. TC did a great job on Howard and did not have to be double teamed.

he was clearly out coached and not out talented at all

Contained by who? Aside from Shump, and sometimes Douglas, we have no perimeter defenders.

I agree that our defensive rotations were bad, and we shouldn't have paid so much attention to Dwight, but they have players who can take advantage of that attention.

We don't have players who can take advantage of the attention Melo garners.

[Thugger HBC]

[quote="Da_Mane_Man"]tyson chandler didn't step out on the shooter on ALL the screens and it killed us. the magic got all those open 3s

Give Chandler a break man, he played an excellent defensive game against Howard. If Chandler steps out on the shooters, Howard has a 30-20 game. Pick your poison.

i'll take howard with 30 points rather than anderson with 30 and reddick and turkoglu with whatever they had.

Howard with 30 in a win is much better than Anderson with 30 in a loss. Yep.[/quote]
I agree, inexcusable for him to go bonkers, JJ as well.

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[evevale]

I don't have confidence we can ever integrate Melo and Amar'e sucessfully into offense with Dantoni coaching and without a PG...

I don't think anyone would disagree with you there. Our offense is struggling for a lot of reasons but mainly because MDA can't coach without an all-star pointguard.

Our defense on the perimeter was also kind of demoralizing. I could see plays unfold 5-6 seconds before the shot was taken. If I can spot JJ Reddick rolling up the baseline for an open 3 while Amare can't really makes me wonder sometimes ...

[Desttro]

17 for 35 from three is unlucky regardless of the defense played.

Bibby should have been in the game when the Magic went zone. Shumpert, Toney, and Landry can't shoot right now.

[NoMoreThrees]

chandler was awesome and the refs let him be rough with dwight
shumps had a great 3rd q but no where the rest
amare eh idk whats up with him
melo hurt ankle why was he jumping into the stands and playing so many minutes
dougie looked nice with the few drives
walker useless
jeffries awful
jorts didnt get enough burn i thought
fields is crap

the doubling causing switching and many times someone just stop switching and it left shooters wide open all game. if we are too dumb to double and switch all the way thru then why do it at all.

i mean u got the double. then fields had to go cover nelson. then u see reddick wide open and theres shumps playing center field guarding no one.

if these guys are too dumb to know its going on and to keep head up for open man then why do it.

[br7knicks]

tyson chandler didn't step out on the shooter on ALL the screens and it killed us. the magic got all those open 3s

Chandler is the one guy who has a brain and knows switching on every screen is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). If I were him, I'd keep doing what is right and not what the idiot coaching staff tells me to.

TC did nothing wrong today. he earned every penny

[Mad Guru]

I thought there were a few really bad flops, Big Baby had a bad flop on a made three, and Chandler flopped vs Howard to get his 5th foul, that was bad. I hate flops, I think they should fine the players for them.

[GONYK]

they shot their open shots well. we didn't. it was really that simple.

so you don't think novak or josh should have been in the game at all?

especially towards the end. jorts has been doing great.

and how the hell do the knicks not play defense against the outside shooters. in rec league, if a guy isn't hitting 3's, you back off. if he starts hitting, you get in his face and not let him shoot any more 3's.

yeah, GONYK, the magic just shot the hell out of the ball. but it was also because no one was defending them. the magic shooters did what they're paid to do. against any other team with a coach that makes adjustments, the magic are going to get pecker smacked

That's exactly my point. The Magic have shooters that actually make shots. We don't.

[Stephon Marbury]

I find it troubling the lack of shooters we have on this team. No one can hit an open **** shot, holy ****. Losing Billups definitely hurt us in several ways.

[MaseInYourFace]

Tough loss. We didn't shoot ball well enough late to keep it close and maybe eek it out. I thought we did a heck of a job defensively on Howard. I thought Amar'e got a bad break getting into quick foul trouble. NBA officiating horrible and inconsistent, what's new?

That charging foul called on Fields (they got that one right) on the break was a back-breaker. If we score there we might have won the game. Instead Orlando gets ball back and kinda finished us off after that.

I don't have confidence we can ever integrate Melo and Amar'e sucessfully into offense with Dantoni coaching and without a PG...

the charge on fields was a joke.. take that out.. after the pass charges are a complete joke... guys get hit and they fall... really a shamefull move... take that call out!!

I don't like that call in that spot either but it's smart basketball, if a guy gets up like that and the defender is in position 9/10 the refs are gonna call it a charge...Fields should not have left his feet.

[NBA Fan 1234]

17 for 35 from three is unlucky regardless of the defense played.

Bibby should have been in the game when the Magic went zone. Shumpert, Toney, and Landry can't shoot right now.

They shouldn't have taken 35 threes at all. 6ers/Heat both chase shooters off the 3 point line...we can't do that.

[Sprewell4Three]

For Bill Walker to still be on this roster is an indictment on both Grunwell/ D'Antoni. The bafoon HAS zero court awareness, doesn't do anything on the court but make an occasional 3 pointer. Plays outta position, no lateral quickness. I'm saying why does this ghetto dike looking chump get so much playing time?

I know, he's not the sole reason why we lost today but seeing lazy players like him play makes me irate...

[KnicksFTW]

Mike D'Antoni is the most stubborn f*ck I've ever seen.

Zero adjustments. ITS OKAY TO FIX SOMETHING THAT DOESN't WORK!

Please Management, you guys have made questionable moves but please just let Mike Woodson take over. We're going to go negative on the home game stretch if Mike D is still around. I guarantee it.

[dreamer3kx]

[god shammgod]

That's exactly my point. The Magic have shooters that actually make shots. We don't.

we had tons of open shots too. we just can't make.

[Da_Mane_Man]

tyson chandler didn't step out on the shooter on ALL the screens and it killed us. the magic got all those open 3s

Chandler is the one guy who has a brain and knows switching on every screen is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). If I were him, I'd keep doing what is right and not what the idiot coaching staff tells me to.

WHAT?!? this is the most (Please Use More Appropriate Word) post i've seen in a while.

switching on all the screens would've prevented all these open 3s. that's actually what switching is good for. at one point towards the end i saw that we made the adjustment to have amare guard turkoglu initially knowing that they would set a screen. then amare and i think chandler switched and we still had a big man on howard and turkoglu had someone on him right away cause they switched on the screen.

[Danger_doom1]

i love how after every knick loss we get about 50 pages of "fire dantoni, trade amare landry and douglas,this team sucks so much we have no hope, play balkman it'll be a major game changer"

and as soon as the next game starts against a **** team its, we got this we have to win this i expect an 88 94 victory

shut the **** up yall we're 6-7 at least we arent the bobcats or the celtics. relax

[Jay10]

d'antoni doesn't only help his players get contracts, he also does the same for the opponent