Concerned About Amare

[kane]

i really do believe its the extra muscle that has slowed him down, id rather tell him to tone it down this off season and keep him the rest of the year and see if he can get that quickness and lift back but if not then id see what we could get for him next year

i want the BEAST BACK !

[Pharmcat]

he hasnt played a week and had a family loss, i'll give him more time

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I also don't get the insistence on running the PnR with Chandler over Stat. They barely did it.

he hasnt played a week and had a family loss, i'll give him more time

Even when it's the same problems he's had all year.

[Thugger HBC]

would you trade him for elton brand or antawn jamison or rashard lewis.

No, but I would for a Taj Gibson type.

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[Thugger HBC]

he hasnt played a week and had a family loss, i'll give him more time

His defense negates his offense.

Time off has nothing to do with that.

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[Boss_]

I also don't get the insistence on running the PnR with Chandler over Stat. They barely did it.

he hasnt played a week and had a family loss, i'll give him more time

Even when it's the same problems he's had all year.

Maybe coach wants Amare to shake the rust off. Chandler is a high IQ bball player. Maybe he didn't want stat to put the ball on the floor and, charge, and get an offensive foul call.

We will find out which PnR partner dantoni prefers though, this will be interesting.

Chandler is a great 7 foot target to hit as he cuts to the rim. Does Amare still have the hops to do some of these alley oops chander is catching and throwing down? Im concerned as well.

[blumatic]

Didn't Amare out rebound Tyson. I think offensively he can't keep going under the basket. Dwight howard barely goes where Amare goes. The shots he made were north if the basket not under.

[BrOnXKing1]

Its not the issue of not dunking, its just that he forces too much. He's gotta use his body more or just simply kick it out if he doesn't have the shot.

Ok throw out the dunking and he's still not finishing as strong as he used to. The man was an automatic "and one" last year, and now I only hear him yell it while struggling to get back on defense after his close up miss. I don't know, something's off.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4a4eoBXkb8[/youtube]

Look how fast he gets to the rim and up. Its not happening this year.

In this video, he looks alot more leaner than he is now. I def think the extra 20 pounds has hurt his explosiveness!

[moocow007]

i'm sure he hasn't done anything physically in a week. i think we should give it some time.

That and the guys brother just died.

[AmazingJason]

Amare added noticeable bulk this off-season. Perhaps he did it prior to acquiring Chandler? It doesn't make sense because adding 20 lbs. of mass is obviously going to affect his shot, his explosiveness, and his lateral movement - which wasn't that good to being with. He did look much better this in the Boston and Chicago game, so I'll have my fingers crossed that it's a conditioning issue.

[N8isScofield]

Everyone notices him not dunking. But no one talks about how hard he is breathing. His conditioning is not there yet.

There may be something to this. We know it took him quite a while to get his back right and the bottom line is that there is no way a person can put on 20lbs from May- December without it being 75% water and fat. That's where some of the explosion went in my opinion. Now he was at 240 last year and used to play at 249 so maybe he'd only need to lose 10lbs or so to get back a little of that explosiveness but I don't see the extra weight being beneficial. He was already strong and it's not like he backs guys down so he needs to either develop a post game or lose some weight.

[Context]

he had regained his form before this absence. i think he just wasn't totally mentally there.

Exactly. Just look at his face in some of his recent interviews. He just lost his older brother who happened to be his protector and best friend. I think he did well tonight with all things considered. I would wait about 10 games before I make judgements and have concerns...

[duetta]

His recent family tragedy has to be factored in to his performance, for sure. But you also have to factor in the possibility that his knees are beginning a slow decline, as anticipated by Phoenix when they refused to guarantee his entire deal.

If Orlando asks for Amare in a Dwight deal, and the deal makes sense, IMHO, you do it - and never look back.

[White Jesus]

There's a risk with alley oops. Amare quit on alley oops after his microfracture surgery as a precaution. You will see it every now and then but for the most part it's very limited. With a PG like Nash, it really didn't matter because there were 20 other ways to find stoudemire in the offense. Amare is not Melo. The better Lin gets to know Amare's game, the better Amare becomes. It's as simple as that. All Amare knows is team ball (which is likely ironic for knicks fans for the moment) but it's true.

[blackbishop]

Its simple. We do not win this game without amare in the fourth quarter. Amare has been the same for a long time. He is just not getting the calls he was getting last year. They are allowing people to make more contact with him making it look worse. His shot was coming into form and now with the lost time will need to come back as well. People act like he was forcing things, but notice most shots were near the basket, there were not the typical 2 offensive foul calls, he had 9 boards and chandler does not make that catch amare made on that dunk.

Amare will be fine. Is he worth 19mil? Probably not, but he will get ya 20 points and 8 boards and as this team becomes better, he will become more efficient.

Sheesh, 6 game winning streak and people still look for things to cry about.

My question: Why would you wish Amare was broken? You better hope he isnt cause he will be here for another 4 years. You better pray his jumper rounds into form and he gets better looks at the basket. No one is gonna take him in a trade.

[Amare fan]

The health excuse is addressed in my thread. Not that he needs to be Blake Griffin-ing everybody but I'm not buying that excuse.

Here it is guys: we can't win with him on this team. Accept the fact that he's been all talk this season, has barely contributed in a positive manner (if at all), and we're going to need to get rid of him to improve as a team.

yea its all amare fault lets go with that

[Amare fan]

he hasnt played a week and had a family loss, i'll give him more time

exactly can we at least wait 2-3 more games to post this. Overreaction at an all time high. I know it wasnt his best game still had 21 points 9 rebounds just wait a lil while people

[K_ick_God]

He was rolling against Boston and Chicago. He's a rhythm player who needs flow. He didn't lose hops from 10 days ago till now.

[hatnlvr]

I think I saw three instances tonight when Amare went to the hole, had a lane, and attempted a layup instead of dunk. Last year those scenarios would have been one handed flushes. It's really starting to concern me. Add that to him getting blocked in the game a bunch of times and its really looking like a problem. I don't think his game will translate like LJ's did. He's still missing some fundamentals. I hope I'm wrong and its just that his timing is off.

He was winded last night (doesn't have his legs and still mourning the loss of his brother). Give him a week or so to get his legs back and he will be fine. He looked better in the second half and once him and Lin get comfortable playing together you will see the Amare of old.

[Knicks D]

I think it will take him until the end if the season to next year to get his full pop back. That back muscle pull shutdown his basketball workouts most of the summer. 1st game back from brothers death as well. He'll be ok.

Thank you. Give the guy a break. His brother just died. that is a huge load for him.