OT: Morey doin work

[Capn'O]

Kevin Martin (expiring $12m)
Luis Scola (3 yrs, $30m)
Kyle Lowry (2 yrs, $11m)
Goran Dragic (UFA with Bird Rights)

Rookie contracts: Chandler Parsons, Courtney Lee, Patrick Patterson, Marcus Morris
'12 Draft Picks: 12, 16, 18
Cap Space: >$25m

Do I have that correct? Sure seems like they're positioning for a Dwight Howard trade. Lowry, picks, and a giant TPE for Dwight & Hedo. This would be a very good squad depending on how much gas Scola and Kevin Martin have left:

Dwight
Scola/Patterson
Hedo/Parsons
Martin/Lee
Dragic

NM - I see how you did it. Yeah, that's their Plan A. They have multiple packages to offer as well with Martin's huge expiring... then keep part of the TPE for another deal. Depends what teams want. Maybe they can move up in the draft? Who knows. But they have a very good hand right now. Time to play it.

[TKF]

I find the morey criticism funny. He is making moves to stay competitive while collecting assets for future moves... there is nothing wrong with that, it is actually a smart way to do business. How is he hurting his team at all?

[mpharris36]

I find the morey criticism funny. He is making moves to stay competitive while collecting assets for future moves... there is nothing wrong with that, it is actually a smart way to do business. How is he hurting his team at all?

he is obviously trying to trade those picks and possibly lowry for D12....Dwight may not sign an extension there so he would be screwed if he traded away the team for a guy about to leave a year later.

i have heard them linked to josh smith...he is a fringe all star player
i have heard them linked to pau gasol....he is a fringe all star player on the bottom end of his career.

unless he flips those picks for a true star/elite player. Houston will continue to sit in mediocracy.

THat is a good thing.

There are two ways to build a team. Try and sign/trade for big name player or go extremely young and suck for 2-3 and get multiple top 5 lottery picks. Staying around 10-16 in the draft will get you no where.

[TheToothFairy]

I find the morey criticism funny. He is making moves to stay competitive while collecting assets for future moves... there is nothing wrong with that, it is actually a smart way to do business. How is he hurting his team at all?

Agreed, the man is working. It's not his fault his team is not LA or NY location wise.

Dalembert was benched the end of last season , Lowry and Martin and Sally don't want to play do McHale

Clean shop with picks and youth , plus they got 3 young rotation players

[Jay10]

"Kyle Lowry is expecting to be traded in the next 24 hours, according to sources close to the point guard"

- alex kennedy

[Red Vines]

"Kyle Lowry is expecting to be traded in the next 24 hours, according to sources close to the point guard"

- alex kennedy

Must be trying to get D12 and Deron.

[Fat Kat]

I'm not sure why Morey was so touted to begin with but neither am I sure why he's being hated on since. Is it because he has our pick, maybe?

He had inherited two max contracts that were soon afterwards no longer playing as such. So until last year he didn't really have a huge amount of flexibility. He essentially has been working on an asset stocking plan for 2 years. He made a stab at some name players but didn't really have the pieces.

Now he has the assets he's been looking for - an expiring contract, a ton of young players, and capspace. This offseason/season should be his big play. But I don't really see how people are saying he should have rebuilt already. It doesn't really work that way... takes patience.

I think the Morey criticisms stem from him being touted as a genius, fleecing ever GM in sight, only to have his team worse off than when he arrived.

Also, IMO people are far too impressed with these mediocre draft picks simply because people are excited by the draft. Half of those picks wont be in the league for long . Let's see what he can do with these picks, then see if the team can make the playoffs.

The same people that praise Morey would kill the Knicks if they had the same backwards trajectory.

[Thugger HBC]

Maybe for Tyreke and their lotto pick

[XcalibuR]

I think the Morey criticisms stem from him being touted as a genius, fleecing ever GM in sight, only to have his team worse off than when he arrived.

Also, IMO people are far too impressed with these mediocre draft picks simply because people are excited by the draft. Half of those picks wont be in the league for long . Let's see what he can do with these picks, then see if the team can make the playoffs.

The same people that praise Morey would kill the Knicks if they had the same backwards trajectory.

The team is only worse because the Rockets lost Yao Ming to injuries. Thats not his fault. If Amare gets a career ending injury (which is possible given his history), is it the GM's fault since he never gave him that contract?

[ibraheim718]

If all this commotion amounts to Tyreke Evans and Pau Gasol I'm going to crack up.

[Capn'O]

I'm not sure why Morey was so touted to begin with but neither am I sure why he's being hated on since. Is it because he has our pick, maybe?

He had inherited two max contracts that were soon afterwards no longer playing as such. So until last year he didn't really have a huge amount of flexibility. He essentially has been working on an asset stocking plan for 2 years. He made a stab at some name players but didn't really have the pieces.

Now he has the assets he's been looking for - an expiring contract, a ton of young players, and capspace. This offseason/season should be his big play. But I don't really see how people are saying he should have rebuilt already. It doesn't really work that way... takes patience.

I think the Morey criticisms stem from him being touted as a genius, fleecing ever GM in sight, only to have his team worse off than when he arrived.

Also, IMO people are far too impressed with these mediocre draft picks simply because people are excited by the draft. Half of those picks wont be in the league for long . Let's see what he can do with these picks, then see if the team can make the playoffs.

The same people that praise Morey would kill the Knicks if they had the same backwards trajectory.

I don't think that's true. Following the decline of the Rockets' two best players he has followed a general trajectory that a lot of "those same people" endorse. Clearing capspace, stockpiling picks/youth, remaining competitive.

Frankly, I give him an incomplete. I've liked his positioning moves but haven't really seen anything from him that suggests that he knows what to do with those assets. I HATED the McHale hire if only because of his perception around the league right now. Not exactly a lure. This summer and season will prove a lot about him.

[Capn'O]

I think the Morey criticisms stem from him being touted as a genius, fleecing ever GM in sight, only to have his team worse off than when he arrived.

Also, IMO people are far too impressed with these mediocre draft picks simply because people are excited by the draft. Half of those picks wont be in the league for long . Let's see what he can do with these picks, then see if the team can make the playoffs.

The same people that praise Morey would kill the Knicks if they had the same backwards trajectory.

The team is only worse because the Rockets lost Yao Ming to injuries. Thats not his fault. If Amare gets a career ending injury (which is possible given his history), is it the GM's fault since he never gave him that contract?

And Tracy McGrady... and he inherited those players' contracts when he joined the team.

[Thugger HBC]

The only issue with the Rockets is that they have overachieved with overall subpar talent.

Can't knock them for trying to make a splash even though it most likely will be futile.

I do wanna see what they do will all those picks, no way they three more kids to what they already have.

[ibraheim718]

The only issue with the Rockets is that they have overachieved with overall subpar talent.

Can't knock them for trying to make a splash even though it most likely will be futile.

I do wanna see what they do will all those picks, no way they three more kids to what they already have.

Well we can knock them when some of our own "fans" try and knock what we've done in the past 2 years and use the Rockets as an example of the proper way to build a team.

[Capn'O]

If all this commotion amounts to Tyreke Evans and Pau Gasol I'm going to crack up.

If they trade Lowry for Evans period (and keep him) I'm going to crack up. Really means Morey is more of a stathead than somebody that knows the game...

[ibraheim718]

If all this commotion amounts to Tyreke Evans and Pau Gasol I'm going to crack up.

If they trade Lowry for Evans period (and keep him) I'm going to crack up. Really means Morey is more of a stathead than somebody that knows the game...

Well I give him an E for effort.

[ibraheim718]

Here's the problem with Morey's approach... this ain't baseball.

[Thugger HBC]

The only issue with the Rockets is that they have overachieved with overall subpar talent.

Can't knock them for trying to make a splash even though it most likely will be futile.

I do wanna see what they do will all those picks, no way they three more kids to what they already have.

Well we can knock them when some of our own "fans" try and knock what we've done in the past 2 years and use the Rockets as an example of the proper way to build a team.

It's more easier to knock those clueless fans.

The Rockets are pretty much in that "continuous rebuild".

I don't support it, but i don't knock it either.

Definitely don't want the Knicks in that boat.

I can see them missing completely on Dwight and settling for Rudy Gay.

That would be absolutely hilarious.

[Fat Kat]

I think the Morey criticisms stem from him being touted as a genius, fleecing ever GM in sight, only to have his team worse off than when he arrived.

Also, IMO people are far too impressed with these mediocre draft picks simply because people are excited by the draft. Half of those picks wont be in the league for long . Let's see what he can do with these picks, then see if the team can make the playoffs.

The same people that praise Morey would kill the Knicks if they had the same backwards trajectory.

The team is only worse because the Rockets lost Yao Ming to injuries. Thats not his fault. If Amare gets a career ending injury (which is possible given his history), is it the GM's fault since he never gave him that contract?

He had a chance to trade Yao for an expiring but didn't. Tried to use the cap space to sign a FA. Didn't work out so well. Gave up on Lin and Novak, but gave traded for Thabust and Flynn.

How many picks has he had? 15 or so? What has it netted him aside from Brooks? Landry?

Jury's still out IMO. Dude is average but I am excited to see what he's up to.

[cgmw]

Wait, so could they be making a play for both Dwight and Deron?

Morey seems adept at making moves to create the flexibility for major recruitments. However, he's yet to prove any kind of ability as a successful recruiter. The only way he gets totally f*ked here is if he dumps all his hard-earned assets on Dwight who then refuses to sign an extension.

Even if he strikes out on Dwight and/or Deron, Morey still wins because this roster is absolutely stacked with cap room, expiring contracts, young players (lowry & dragic), rookie contracts, and draft picks.

Not gonna lie, as a Knick fan I'm kind of jealous. Then again, I'd rather be a New Yorker and live in cap hell then ever live in Houston or be a Rocket fan.