Here are what starting PGs are making

[DocZaius]

If it was as simple as Lin at 8 per, the Knicks would have matched the moment that contract arrived...Gotta put it in the context of that 15 million dollars, the luxury tax implications and the actions that led to that contract being signed before you really put this in perspective.

thats 3 years away...

alot of movement can happen between then and now

[21shumpst]

Raymond Felton makes less and he sucked

did you watch him play last year? his contract is cheap enough to give it another go though

edit: damn i got sniped

last season was rough but Felton has better potential over Lin IMO. They will put up similar stats but felton less turnovers

After 6 years this "potential" argument for Fatty is pretty much obsolete.

[seren]

If it was as simple as Lin at 8 per, the Knicks would have matched the moment that contract arrived...Gotta put it in the context of that 15 million dollars, the luxury tax implications and the actions that led to that contract being signed before you really put this in perspective.

Nah. I don't buy that. It is not the money. As I repeated 1000 times, there are options for the third year. If he doesn't pan out, you buy him out and spread his contract to three years. It's not the first time we would buy out somebody. If he does pan out, there will be many teams willing to give out huge assets even as an expiring. It is more likely that he will be more than decent.

Dolan paid 21 million dollars to Shandon Anderson for leaving. 15 million dollars to Jalen Rose. And many many others. He also took in the luxury tax without any problem.

It is not like Lin is a scrub. He sells tickets and brings in revenue. This is not about money. This is 100% personal.

[moocow007]

If it was as simple as Lin at 8 per, the Knicks would have matched the moment that contract arrived...Gotta put it in the context of that 15 million dollars, the luxury tax implications and the actions that led to that contract being signed before you really put this in perspective.

thats 3 years away...

alot of movement can happen between then and now

Wasn't that Isiah Thomas' logic for trading away all those future 1st round picks?

[moocow007]

Lin is a bargain at 8 million per

The luxury tax is a killer but honestly we are paying as much for inexplicably giving geezers, Novak, and Felton long term contracts (13 million or so)

Yes those contracts were somewhat puzzling (especially Novak). Which goes to show that this may not be just about money. Hopefully Dolan gets over it in time.

[DocZaius]

If it was as simple as Lin at 8 per, the Knicks would have matched the moment that contract arrived...Gotta put it in the context of that 15 million dollars, the luxury tax implications and the actions that led to that contract being signed before you really put this in perspective.

thats 3 years away...

alot of movement can happen between then and now

Wasn't that Isiah Thomas' logic for trading away all those future 1st round picks?

Isiah tried to go into win now mode with a team that had deep lottery potential

[seren]

If it was as simple as Lin at 8 per, the Knicks would have matched the moment that contract arrived...Gotta put it in the context of that 15 million dollars, the luxury tax implications and the actions that led to that contract being signed before you really put this in perspective.

thats 3 years away...

alot of movement can happen between then and now

Wasn't that Isiah Thomas' logic for trading away all those future 1st round picks?

No future picks are involved in this deal.

On the contrary, we are giving up our most recent 2nd round pick, a non-guaranteed contract that could be used in another transaction, and Jeffries just to replace Lin.

[MaseInYourFace]

In pissed off Ahnold Swhazenneger voice:

IT'S NEVA BEEN ABOUT THE MONEY!!!

[flowflow99]

It's a poison pill offer. It's not supposed to make financial sense.

It's supposed to get the desired player by overpaying to screw with the other team's cap space.

The question isn't whether or not 15 million is what Lin is worth (it's not). It's whether it's worth overpaying him to keep him.

[richardhutnik]

This year:

George Hill - 5 years/40 million. 8 million per.
Did not start for Indiana until the very end of last year. Did not start for San Antonio before. Career averages 9.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.5 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Goran Dragic - 4 years/34 million. 8.5 million per.
Did not start for Houston until injuries. Did not start in Phoenix before. Career averages: 8.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.3 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Other notables:
Mike Conley - 5 years/45 million. 9 million per.
Career averages: 11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.4 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.

People need to put things in perspective.

Perspective is this: Sample size and salary in 3rd year. How many starting PGs in the NBA make around $15 million/year? How many PGs get $15 million/year based upon the small portfolio Lin has? That is the issue here. And if anyone cares to answer whether or not, after year 3, Lin making $15 million will end up getting even more money than that, that is what needs to be asked.

To say "people need to put things in perspective" means you also need to look at that aspect. When you do that, can you answer whether or not you feel Lin is worth $15 million?

A kicker here, someone can iron out who knows, is if that is what the Knicks look at, but the Rockets end up paying him like 8/8/8 or so over 3 years. At that point, not sure anyone has issues with what Lin would make with the Rockets.

Lin will not be making 15 million per year. He will be making 8 million per year.

He will make $15 million in the final year, right when he will be set to get an extension, and his salary at that point will end up being $15 million and go higher. It is the third year, the poison pill year. It is a decision that can make or break a GM's career actually.

[richardhutnik]

Lin is a bargain at 8 million per

The luxury tax is a killer but honestly we are paying as much for inexplicably giving geezers, Novak, and Felton long term contracts (13 million or so)

He's not a bargain at 5. 5. 15

Add the salary cap hit in with that. And is Lin then worth like $40+ million more a year considering the luxury cap damage, hampering abilities to make moves, and also the need to start his future salary at that rate?

[DocZaius]

LIN SHOULD BE PLAYING FOR FREE

HOW DARE THIS PEON TRY TO EARN MONEY!!!

[seren]

He will make $15 million in the final year, right when he will be set to get an extension, and his salary at that point will end up being $15 million and go higher. It is the third year, the poison pill year. It is a decision that can make or break a GM's career actually.

Not really though.

Isiah survived paying Shandon Anderson 21 million, Jalen Rose 15 million, Maurice Taylor 7.5 million for NOT playing for the Knicks. These figures do not include their luxury tax hit.

Face it. It is a old boys club out in MSG.

[earthmansurfer]

Raymond Felton makes less and he sucks

fixed

LOL - The first one of the week. Thank you. I'm glad I finished my beer before reading that!


Lin is a bargain. I take him over many starting PGs in the league.

[kron]

john Wall 1st pick same year as Lin averaged 18-8-4 he makes 5mil

Well, Wall is still on his first contract and stuck with the same garbage team for the foreseeable future. If not he'd be getting paid way more in an open market