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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#41 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Feb 2, 2014 6:32 am

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Tyson did have 11 boards, 2 blocks. Its just not easy when he's the only big out there and has no help. Very few bigs can carry the entire front line every game on defense.

But he still should be traded since this team is going nowhere and Tyson is too old to be part of the '15 rebuild.

Sell high, sell high.


sure but he's going against the heat, who push out a bunch of creampuffs for a front line, he should have scooped up 30boards. Hibbert looks like superman going against the heat's front line, tyson looks like Juwanna Mann


Tyson has no problems against the Heat. Beating them is how he got his ring and his contract.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#42 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sun Feb 2, 2014 6:35 am

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Tyson did have 11 boards, 2 blocks. Its just not easy when he's the only big out there and has no help. Very few bigs can carry the entire front line every game on defense.

But he still should be traded since this team is going nowhere and Tyson is too old to be part of the '15 rebuild.

Sell high, sell high.


What can we sell high for though? We can only sell high if there is a bidder at the table willing to pay.

Could Thunder benefit from Jackson, Sefelosha, Perkins for Udrih, Chandler and Alderich? Sure. But they wouldn't make that move because they'd lose their premier defensive wing.


I'm pretty sure more then a few teams would be interested. Cavs, Hawks, Blazers, Nuggets, OKC, Mavs, etc? There are teams that could use a C.

If we can get a pick, young player and/or get rid of JR or Felton I'd consider it.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#43 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Feb 2, 2014 6:36 am

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nykballa2k4 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Tyson did have 11 boards, 2 blocks. Its just not easy when he's the only big out there and has no help. Very few bigs can carry the entire front line every game on defense.

But he still should be traded since this team is going nowhere and Tyson is too old to be part of the '15 rebuild.

Sell high, sell high.


What can we sell high for though? We can only sell high if there is a bidder at the table willing to pay.

Could Thunder benefit from Jackson, Sefelosha, Perkins for Udrih, Chandler and Alderich? Sure. But they wouldn't make that move because they'd lose their premier defensive wing.


I'm pretty sure more then a few teams would be interested. If we can get a pick, young player and/or get rid of JR or Felton I'd consider it.


My list right now is OKC and CLE for Chandler. Who do you have?
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#44 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sun Feb 2, 2014 6:41 am

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Tyson did have 11 boards, 2 blocks. Its just not easy when he's the only big out there and has no help. Very few bigs can carry the entire front line every game on defense.

But he still should be traded since this team is going nowhere and Tyson is too old to be part of the '15 rebuild.

Sell high, sell high.


sure but he's going against the heat, who push out a bunch of creampuffs for a front line, he should have scooped up 30boards. Hibbert looks like superman going against the heat's front line, tyson looks like Juwanna Mann


The Heat are the 2 time defending champs. There entire team helps out in the paint and on the boards. The Pacers entire team plays D and helps out in the paint too. The Knicks have 1 guy doing that defensively.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#45 » by Meat » Sun Feb 2, 2014 6:51 am

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Meat wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Tyson did have 11 boards, 2 blocks. Its just not easy when he's the only big out there and has no help. Very few bigs can carry the entire front line every game on defense.

But he still should be traded since this team is going nowhere and Tyson is too old to be part of the '15 rebuild.

Sell high, sell high.


sure but he's going against the heat, who push out a bunch of creampuffs for a front line, he should have scooped up 30boards. Hibbert looks like superman going against the heat's front line, tyson looks like Juwanna Mann


The Heat are the 2 time defending champs. There entire team helps out in the paint and on the boards. The Pacers entire team plays D and helps out in the paint too. The Knicks have 1 guy doing that defensively.

the heat are the wost rebounding team in the league and the only 7 footer out there could barely muster 11
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#46 » by emo » Sun Feb 2, 2014 6:54 am

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Meat wrote:
sure but he's going against the heat, who push out a bunch of creampuffs for a front line, he should have scooped up 30boards. Hibbert looks like superman going against the heat's front line, tyson looks like Juwanna Mann


The Heat are the 2 time defending champs. There entire team helps out in the paint and on the boards. The Pacers entire team plays D and helps out in the paint too. The Knicks have 1 guy doing that defensively.

the heat are the wost rebounding team in the league and the only 7 footer out there could barely muster 11


:lol:

What one guy plays help D and helps out in the paint? I hope ya meant Kenyon..
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#47 » by Phish Tank » Sun Feb 2, 2014 7:00 am

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Tyson did have 11 boards, 2 blocks. Its just not easy when he's the only big out there and has no help. Very few bigs can carry the entire front line every game on defense.

But he still should be traded since this team is going nowhere and Tyson is too old to be part of the '15 rebuild.

Sell high, sell high.


sure but he's going against the heat, who push out a bunch of creampuffs for a front line, he should have scooped up 30boards. Hibbert looks like superman going against the heat's front line, tyson looks like Juwanna Mann


One of those cream puffs was birdman who gave the Knicks a hard time tonight on the offensive glass.

You can look like a beast and grab 30 boards if the heat miss shots. They didn't miss, so don't blame Tyson for that. Yes some of the individual matchups he deserves the blame, but that didn't result in losing the game.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#48 » by blueNorange » Sun Feb 2, 2014 7:10 am

i always thought the hate for him was overdone, but tonight i was truly disgusted with tyson chandler. chalmers had 2 uncontested layups on him with one of them being disgraceful.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#49 » by Sark » Sun Feb 2, 2014 8:26 am

The product of another garbage Donnie Walsh signing. If he saved the money we could have made a run at Chris Paul.

Donnie Walsh was still working for the Packers when he was here. He made the worst moves ever.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#50 » by Fury » Sun Feb 2, 2014 8:30 am

Sark wrote:The product of another garbage Donnie Walsh signing. If he saved the money we could have made a run at Chris Paul.

Donnie Walsh was still working for the Packers when he was here. He made the worst moves ever.


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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#51 » by Sark » Sun Feb 2, 2014 8:44 am

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Sark wrote:The product of another garbage Donnie Walsh signing. If he saved the money we could have made a run at Chris Paul.

Donnie Walsh was still working for the Packers when he was here. He made the worst moves ever.


Chandler was Grunny



Then I take that back, slightly. His moves were awful when he was here.


Grunwald deserved to be "fired" as well for his crappy moves.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#52 » by Context » Sun Feb 2, 2014 9:24 am

Sark wrote:The product of another garbage Donnie Walsh signing. If he saved the money we could have made a run at Chris Paul.

Donnie Walsh was still working for the Packers when he was here. He made the worst moves ever.

Its funny u mentioned this...when Donnie went back to the pacers that thought ran through my mind...
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#53 » by DowNY » Sun Feb 2, 2014 10:08 am

Since his signing here, all Tyson Chandler have contributed to this team was the lost of our Amnesty & the flu.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#54 » by Marty McFly » Sun Feb 2, 2014 11:19 am

yawn. now we want to do that? when he was going to return should have been the time. no one is going to give you anything of any value for him.
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Post#55 » by TrueWarrior » Sun Feb 2, 2014 1:08 pm

It's always funny to me how Woodson tries to coach the young guys when they mess up. If they miss one rotation or do any small thing wrong Woody gets on them in front of everybody like he knows what hes talking about. Yet Tyson, Felton, Melo, JR, Kenyon, and Amare make numerous hilariously dumb plays a game to which Woody turns the other cheek.

Dantoni used to do the same thing, and I cant stand that junk. Biased accountability. It shows how little balls Woodson has. The young guys get chirped at and put on a one inch leash while our "vets" get to take a sh*t and smear it all over the floor every night, but it's cool because "they know what they're doing." Ha.

Tyson and Felton are awesome to watch. They really are. Seeing them b*tch about everything and deflect afterwards is top notch. They honestly think they're good players and that tickles my sausage. They should be proud.

I thought I was going crazy with the amount of times ive seen Tyson just let some toad waltz into the lane and lay it up without him even raising his hand. This is what the man gets paid 14 mill a year for and I cant remember the last time I really watched a game and thought Tyson made a 14 million dollar impact.

Trade him. Get whatever we can get. Aldrich can do better, or he can't do much worse.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#56 » by Knicksfan20 » Sun Feb 2, 2014 1:41 pm

Im gunna give him some more time before i trash him. He hasnt been the greatest, but he did just come off a majory injury. Before that injury he was a beast for those few games.


Im going to bookmark this thread just in case.
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Post#57 » by duetta » Sun Feb 2, 2014 1:44 pm

Ever since his Chicago days, Tyson has routinely alternated between pretender and contender. If you followed his career, you understood this - which is why some of us raised an eyebrow when Grunwald went all-in to acquire him.

He always represented a degree of motivational risk (not to mention injury risk).
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#58 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Feb 2, 2014 1:45 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:It's always funny to me how Woodson tries to coach the young guys when they mess up. If they miss one rotation or do any small thing wrong Woody gets on them in front of everybody like he knows what hes talking about. Yet Tyson, Felton, Melo, JR, Kenyon, and Amare make numerous hilariously dumb plays a game to which Woody turns the other cheek.

Dantoni used to do the same thing, and I cant stand that junk. Biased accountability. It shows how little balls Woodson has. The young guys get chirped at and put on a one inch leash while our "vets" get to take a sh*t and smear it all over the floor every night, but it's cool because "they know what they're doing." Ha.

Tyson and Felton are awesome to watch. They really are. Seeing them b*tch about everything and deflect afterwards is top notch. They honestly think they're good players and that tickles my sausage. They should be proud.

I thought I was going crazy with the amount of times ive seen Tyson just let some toad waltz into the lane and lay it up without him even raising his hand. This is what the man gets paid 14 mill a year for and I cant remember the last time I really watched a game and thought Tyson made a 14 million dollar impact.

Trade him. Get whatever we can get. Aldrich can do better, or he can't do much worse.


Well, at least your pickle gets tickled.

It goes back to the way this franchise handles players. Playing time defers to salary structure much of the time. I've never been really sure what part of Dolan's agenda has been executed by Woodson, but it is clear Woodson already had a bias against younger players.

So it works out just the way you are saying where the guys who have booked their big contract know they get preferential treatment from the coach which is exactly not the message you want to send to the rest of the players. I'm not saying that doesn't exist to some degree on all clubs, but here it is definitely the default logic. It is garbage psychology and an anti-winning ethos, not the way to build a winning culture.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#59 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Feb 2, 2014 1:50 pm

duetta wrote:Ever since his Chicago days, Tyson has routinely alternated between a pretender and a contender. If you followed his career, you understood this - which is why some of us raised an eyebrow when Grunwald went all-in to acquire him.

He always represented a degree of motivational risk (not to mention injury risk).


He certainly has not come up big in the post-season here.

To think the exemption was used in order to acquire Tyson when we could have used it half a season later to get out of the cap hell Amare got us into. The money for Tyson + Amare + Melo combined really has not worked.
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Re: Please trade Chandler!!!! 

Post#60 » by Knicksfan20 » Sun Feb 2, 2014 1:51 pm

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duetta wrote:Ever since his Chicago days, Tyson has routinely alternated between a pretender and a contender. If you followed his career, you understood this - which is why some of us raised an eyebrow when Grunwald went all-in to acquire him.

He always represented a degree of motivational risk (not to mention injury risk).


He certainly has not come up big in the post-season here.

To think the exemption was used in order to acquire Tyson when we could have used it half a season later to get out of the cap hell Amare got us into. The money for Tyson + Amare + Melo combined really has not worked.



TO be fair, he was injured in both post seasons and the one before last he was also playing through a virus.

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