Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8

GEOLINK · Post #41 » by **GEOLINK** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:48 pm

Give me Frank.

shtolky · Post #42 » by **shtolky** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:49 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Nooooooooooooooooooooo

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They are working out tons of guys. Shouldn't be a huge surprise he is working out for them.

Dr. Detfink · Post #43 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:49 pm

taj2133 wrote:looks like josh jackson got a promise from either the lakers or sixers according to the suns beat writer
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Josh Jackson has been promised - has worked out for Lakers in LA. Has not worked out for Phoenix yet. It could be Philly but likely Lakers.
https://twitter.com/gambo987?lang=en

If the Lakers pass on Ball, wow...that would be the slap heard from around the world even though Philly would be a good spot for him with the weapons of Okafor, Embiid, and Simmons.

DrCoach · Post #44 » by **DrCoach** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:51 pm

bleedblue3303 wrote:No one is scared that Mitchell
Is a 6'3 shooting guard

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Avery Bradley is quite effective

Post #45 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:52 pm

this draft could get really crazy. Would the lakers really pass on Lonzo? If they do how far does he drop because no one worked him out outside the lakers. His father might f*ck him royally.

Post #46 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:53 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:
taj2133 wrote:looks like josh jackson got a promise from either the lakers or sixers according to the suns beat writer
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Josh Jackson has been promised - has worked out for Lakers in LA. Has not worked out for Phoenix yet. It could be Philly but likely Lakers.
https://twitter.com/gambo987?lang=en

If the Lakers pass on Ball, wow...that would be the slap heard from around the world even though Philly would be a good spot for him with the weapons of Okafor, Embiid, and Simmons.

it really would be a wake up call to Lavar like dude I know you like to think your sh*t don't stink....

shtolky · Post #47 » by **shtolky** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:54 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:
taj2133 wrote:looks like josh jackson got a promise from either the lakers or sixers according to the suns beat writer
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John Gambadoro‏Verified account @Gambo987 40m40 minutes ago
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Josh Jackson has been promised - has worked out for Lakers in LA. Has not worked out for Phoenix yet. It could be Philly but likely Lakers.
https://twitter.com/gambo987?lang=en

If the Lakers pass on Ball, wow...that would be the slap heard from around the world even though Philly would be a good spot for him with the weapons of Okafor, Embiid, and Simmons.

I've heard a lot of people say Ball would fit in Philly, but I just can't see Simmons as anything other than a point who needs the ball in his hands. With Ball, obviously he is the floor general, so what does Simmons do? He is a horrific shooter and he needs the ball in his hands. Would be very interesting to see the Lakers pass on Ball. I could see him dropping to 5 if that happens. Still doesn't really change our options even if that does happen. Lavar would be pissed. You would have to give Magic and his staff credit for not taking Ball simply because it is what's expected.

Dr. Detfink · Post #48 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:54 pm

mpharris36 wrote:it really would be a wake up call to Lavar like dude I know you like to think your sh*t don't stink....

For sure. I mean, I like Magic's style. Smile to your face but carry a dagger.

KnicksChamps · Post #49 » by **KnicksChamps** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:55 pm

mpharris36 wrote:this draft could get really crazy. Would the lakers really pass on Lonzo? If they do how far does he drop because no one worked him out outside the lakers. His father might f*ck him royally.

Sounds like he partially f*cked himself by having a poor workout/being out of shape/declining workouts. I try not to wish bad things upon people, and realistically, dropping a couple spots in the NBA draft where you're going to be rich anyway isn't a "bad" thing, but I would not be upset if he dropped with all that BS surrounding him.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #50 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:58 pm

shtolky wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:
taj2133 wrote:looks like josh jackson got a promise from either the lakers or sixers according to the suns beat writer
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John Gambadoro‏Verified account @Gambo987 40m40 minutes ago
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Josh Jackson has been promised - has worked out for Lakers in LA. Has not worked out for Phoenix yet. It could be Philly but likely Lakers.
https://twitter.com/gambo987?lang=en

If the Lakers pass on Ball, wow...that would be the slap heard from around the world even though Philly would be a good spot for him with the weapons of Okafor, Embiid, and Simmons.

I've heard a lot of people say Ball would fit in Philly, but I just can't see Simmons as anything other than a point who needs the ball in his hands. With Ball, obviously he is the floor general, so what does Simmons do? He is a horrific shooter and he needs the ball in his hands. Would be very interesting to see the Lakers pass on Ball. I could see him dropping to 5 if that happens. Still doesn't really change our options even if that does happen. Lavar would be pissed. You would have to give Magic and his staff credit for not taking Ball simply because it is what's expected.

Ball can easily play off ball on offense if Simmons is initiating the offense. I also don't see Simmons as a point guard, so I think the fit is there regardless - he's like Lamar or Blake (with a better handle and without the absolute freakish/elite athleticism)

Post #51 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:58 pm

KnicksChamps wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:this draft could get really crazy. Would the lakers really pass on Lonzo? If they do how far does he drop because no one worked him out outside the lakers. His father might f*ck him royally.

Sounds like he partially f*cked himself by having a poor workout/being out of shape/declining workouts. I try not to wish bad things upon people, and realistically, dropping a couple spots in the NBA draft where you're going to be rich anyway isn't a "bad" thing, but I would not be upset if he dropped with all that BS surrounding him.

i guess but thats not good for us unless you think Phil would pull the trigger on Lonzo. Just means another player will be going from the group of players we want.

Its a combination though. If Lavar is telling Lonzo the lakers are a sure bet he might have coasted thinking why go all out...I don't know. But the kid is getting terrible advice from his father.

shtolky · Post #52 » by **shtolky** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:00 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
shtolky wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:
If the Lakers pass on Ball, wow...that would be the slap heard from around the world even though Philly would be a good spot for him with the weapons of Okafor, Embiid, and Simmons.

I've heard a lot of people say Ball would fit in Philly, but I just can't see Simmons as anything other than a point who needs the ball in his hands. With Ball, obviously he is the floor general, so what does Simmons do? He is a horrific shooter and he needs the ball in his hands. Would be very interesting to see the Lakers pass on Ball. I could see him dropping to 5 if that happens. Still doesn't really change our options even if that does happen. Lavar would be pissed. You would have to give Magic and his staff credit for not taking Ball simply because it is what's expected.

Ball can easily play off ball on offense if Simmons is initiating the offense. I also don't see Simmons as a point guard, so I think the fit is there regardless - he's like Lamar or Blake (with a better handle and without the absolute freakish/elite athleticism)

If they draft Ball who might end up playing off the ball with Simmons initiating the offense, why not just take Monk? You take Ball to be your floor leader and facilitator. I just don't like the pairing. I also think Simmons can definitely play PG.

spree8 · Post #53 » by **spree8** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:01 pm

shtolky wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:
taj2133 wrote:looks like josh jackson got a promise from either the lakers or sixers according to the suns beat writer
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John Gambadoro‏Verified account @Gambo987 40m40 minutes ago
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Josh Jackson has been promised - has worked out for Lakers in LA. Has not worked out for Phoenix yet. It could be Philly but likely Lakers.
https://twitter.com/gambo987?lang=en

If the Lakers pass on Ball, wow...that would be the slap heard from around the world even though Philly would be a good spot for him with the weapons of Okafor, Embiid, and Simmons.

I've heard a lot of people say Ball would fit in Philly, but I just can't see Simmons as anything other than a point who needs the ball in his hands. With Ball, obviously he is the floor general, so what does Simmons do? He is a horrific shooter and he needs the ball in his hands. Would be very interesting to see the Lakers pass on Ball. I could see him dropping to 5 if that happens. Still doesn't really change our options even if that does happen. Lavar would be pissed. You would have to give Magic and his staff credit for not taking Ball simply because it is what's expected.

I could see Ball & Simmons playing just fine together... like the way Steph & Dray share the rock & run the offense.

Fury · Post #54 » by **Fury** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:01 pm

More like Lonzo Fall

shtolky · Post #55 » by **shtolky** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:02 pm

spree8 wrote:
shtolky wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:
If the Lakers pass on Ball, wow...that would be the slap heard from around the world even though Philly would be a good spot for him with the weapons of Okafor, Embiid, and Simmons.

I've heard a lot of people say Ball would fit in Philly, but I just can't see Simmons as anything other than a point who needs the ball in his hands. With Ball, obviously he is the floor general, so what does Simmons do? He is a horrific shooter and he needs the ball in his hands. Would be very interesting to see the Lakers pass on Ball. I could see him dropping to 5 if that happens. Still doesn't really change our options even if that does happen. Lavar would be pissed. You would have to give Magic and his staff credit for not taking Ball simply because it is what's expected.

I could see Ball & Simmons playing just fine together... like the way Steph & Dray share the rock.

Right but the dynamic and skill set between Draymond and Steph is much different than Simmons and Ball, or so I am assuming. I just think you take Ball to be your 100% unquestioned PG, not a guy who sometimes brings the ball up.

cdt3000 · Post #56 » by **cdt3000** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:02 pm

Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Draft is next week! Almost time!!! Now let's get portlands 15th pick and draft Mitchell or Jackson with that!!

I totally agree taking portlands 15th pick helps us a better SF to replace Melo (plus our new PG @ 8).

Definitely worth it for the Knicks.

Plus tonight the since the Cavs got every bounce in game 4, they will lose tonight in getting dominated by GS (getting to stir up lots of trade value for Melo).

cdt3000 · Post #57 » by **cdt3000** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:03 pm

Kristaps6_NYK wrote:Draft is next week! Almost time!!! Now let's get portlands 15th pick and draft Mitchell or Jackson with that!!

I totally agree taking portlands 15th pick helps us a better SF to replace Melo (plus our new PG @ 8).

Definitely worth it for the Knicks.

Plus tonight the since the Cavs got every bounce in game 4, they will lose tonight in getting dominated by GS (getting to stir up lots of trade value for Melo).

Post #58 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:03 pm

Fury wrote:More like Lonzo Fall

would Phil pull the trigger?

KnicksChamps · Post #59 » by **KnicksChamps** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:04 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
KnicksChamps wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:this draft could get really crazy. Would the lakers really pass on Lonzo? If they do how far does he drop because no one worked him out outside the lakers. His father might f*ck him royally.

Sounds like he partially f*cked himself by having a poor workout/being out of shape/declining workouts. I try not to wish bad things upon people, and realistically, dropping a couple spots in the NBA draft where you're going to be rich anyway isn't a "bad" thing, but I would not be upset if he dropped with all that BS surrounding him.

i guess but thats not good for us unless you think Phil would pull the trigger on Lonzo. Just means another player will be going from the group of players we want.

Its a combination though. If Lavar is telling Lonzo the lakers are a sure bet he might have coasted thinking why go all out...I don't know. But the kid is getting terrible advice from his father.

Very true. Its the arrogance of potentially not going all out that bothers me so much. He's just as unproven as guys who may be on an opening day roster who go undrafted. You haven't done sh*t yet, kid. Sit down, be humble. :lol:

spree8 · Post #60 » by **spree8** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:05 pm

shtolky wrote:
spree8 wrote:
shtolky wrote:

I've heard a lot of people say Ball would fit in Philly, but I just can't see Simmons as anything other than a point who needs the ball in his hands. With Ball, obviously he is the floor general, so what does Simmons do? He is a horrific shooter and he needs the ball in his hands. Would be very interesting to see the Lakers pass on Ball. I could see him dropping to 5 if that happens. Still doesn't really change our options even if that does happen. Lavar would be pissed. You would have to give Magic and his staff credit for not taking Ball simply because it is what's expected.

I could see Ball & Simmons playing just fine together... like the way Steph & Dray share the rock.

Right but the dynamic and skill set between Draymond and Steph is much different than Simmons and Ball, or so I am assuming. I just think you take Ball to be your 100% unquestioned PG, not a guy who sometimes brings the ball up.

I couldn't disagree more. The ball movement would be nuts. A pg's job doesn't begin and end with bringing the ball up court.

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