Melo Thread #????? - Update PG 58 - 4-way scenarios explored (In Georgia?)

[Traveyknicks23]

People want Melo traded, fine. But not sure why he's being met with such vitriol.

Some short memories here.

In the past decade not a single prominent player wanted to be a part of this toxic franchise. Melo did. He actually wanted to play here in front of the NY fans. When all other stars preferred to taunt us and punk us.

He wasted his prime by playing here with at best a bunch of has beens as his top supporting talent. Amare, Chauncey, Rose and Noah, Bargnagni (lol)!.

Its not his fault he couldnt get any of his superstar buddy's to join him. It wasnt his responsibility anyway. Walsh, Grunfeld, Mills, Jackson, these guys are paid millions to build the team. Theyre to blame, not Melo.

Just not sure where all the Melo hate comes from honestly...

The trade, D'Antoni and Lin(which is the biggest reach I have ever seen).

Except he was willing to go to Brooklyn, not because he wanted to play here. Because he wanted his max and a chance to form a big 3. He wanted out of Denver. Not because he wanted to be a Knick. That's a lie. He also was willing to leave in FA after all it took to get him here. Then he took the max and a NTC plus kicker to stay.

Never once has he left this team in a better position to build around him. He didn't attract FA. He didn't want to adapt his game. He didn't want certain coaches or players and a GM.

The FO has been a mess. He contributed to that mess with Dolan forcing the trade because he said he would go to Brooklyn.

He is a very good player. He has played the good soldier in the press. He has left it all out on the court. He has not done anything to warrant such blind devotion. He's made selfish, me first decisions that have hurt the team. These are facts. It's not all on him...but....some of it is.

It's time to move on either way and fans should be allowed to want that without hearing about it. Melo is not the victim by any stretch in this story.

The team prior to melo wasn't anything short of meh lol they were nothing but an 8th seed team they weren't some top team in the east yea we gave up assets but **** that's what you do when trading for a superstar maybe we gave up too much but those guys didn't do **** in Denver. So I guess it's really moot melo end goal was always the Knicks he deaded the trade to jersey by refusing to sign the extension there. He was coming here reguardless they didn't wanna wait they pulled the trigger. Those selfish me first decision huh? like resigning for the max ? lol god how selfish such bull **** this fanbase man look at how you treat your own

[Battery]

"LMAO

I just named 2 1st ballot HOF dudes with an insane 3rd & 4th option.

But hey Melo didn't play BOS so they were better."


And i just named 4 hall of famers on that Boston team. Many people think Ainge should be in too. Bird, Parrish, McHale and DJ. You named Kobe and Pau, plus Odom and Bynum. I'm sorry but the Celtics were way better. Played much better competition too and nobody sat out because they were tired or they weren't paid enough money.

Nobody's discrediting those teams tho lol but your damn sure descrediting the teams melo played against

I'm not discrediting them at all. I'm just saying that the Celtics teams of the 1980's were regarding as some of the best of all time. Nobody mentions Kobe-Pau in that class, although I think Kobe is one of the greatest of all time. I would still take McHale over Pau any day of the week. Same with Parrish. DJ and Ainge in the backcourt were great, plus they had an awesome bench. I just can't see Melo going into tiny old very loud Boston Garden with every fan in the building right on top of you even winning one game against that team. Bird would steal the ball from him every time. And those passes they used to make my goodness that was basketball at its finest. Same with the Lakers teams of the 80's. GREATNESS. Those Sixer teams were great too, same with the Bullets. Loved the Rockets back then too. And of course the Pistons eventually came along as they matured. They would have slapped the Kobe-Pau Lakers silly. Then you had the Bulls...

[whocares1]

are you including pre Lin record or just after Lin went down? Because we finished the season strong after he chose a payday over the playoffs.

Who chose a payday? Lin? I hate Lin but even I can say that he was sleeping on a couch while making the minimum... I would take the payday (after already having surgery) as well.

I don't knock him either for doing it.

I'm just stating what happened. He chose the payday over the playoffs.

Why do you hate Lin? I don't. I just hate the Lin worshippers.

Why did Melo tell the media that the Rockets overpaid for Lin? Wouldn't that be counterproductive especially with his role in the NBAPA?

[Battery]

"LMAO

I just named 2 1st ballot HOF dudes with an insane 3rd & 4th option.

But hey Melo didn't play BOS so they were better."


And i just named 4 hall of famers on that Boston team. Many people think Ainge should be in too. Bird, Parrish, McHale and DJ. You named Kobe and Pau, plus Odom and Bynum. I'm sorry but the Celtics were way better. Played much better competition too and nobody sat out because they were tired or they weren't paid enough money.

Yet you haven't proven why they were so superior to that LAL team. Just because you say so?

Is Kobe not an all time great now? Is prime Pau chump change?

Why didn't I get the memo?

You didn't get the memo (memo? ha that is something I would always say) because you probably weren't born yet?

[Traveyknicks23]

Who chose a payday? Lin? I hate Lin but even I can say that he was sleeping on a couch while making the minimum... I would take the payday (after already having surgery) as well.

I don't knock him either for doing it.

I'm just stating what happened. He chose the payday over the playoffs.

Why do you hate Lin? I don't. I just hate the Lin worshippers.

Why did Melo tell the media that the Rockets overpaid for Lin? Wouldn't that be counterproductive especially with his role in the NBAPA?

Cause they damn sure did

[stuporman]

Melo was always an old school lead scorer, a finisher, but he couldn't be the team's alpha personality and lead the team to a title, or even a deep playoff run. Now he would be fortunate to go to a team like Houston or Cleveland to compete for a title because there are true alphas on those teams and he can settle into the old gunner role to pour it in. He would do well in that capacity even turning a series or something like that.

[Newyorknick94]

This is taking long feels weird watch nothing happen

[Newyorknick94]

Melo was always an old school lead scorer, a finisher, but he couldn't be the team's alpha personality and lead the team to a title, or even a deep playoff run. Now he would be fortunate to go to a team like Houston or Cleveland to compete for a title because there are true alphas on those teams and he can settle into the old gunner role to pour it in. He would do well in that capacity even turning a series or something like that.

Yea if he gets hot he'll win you some games from his scoring alone

[Traveyknicks23]

Melo was always an old school lead scorer, a finisher, but he couldn't be the team's alpha personality and lead the team to a title, or even a deep playoff run. Now he would be fortunate to go to a team like Houston or Cleveland to compete for a title because there are true alphas on those teams and he can settle into the old gunner role to pour it in. He would do well in that capacity even turning a series or something like that.

Lebron wasn't going to lead these trash as teams we placed around melo to a deep playoff run not happening. Not when you got mike bibbys corpse running the point during that run

[Greenie]

Who chose a payday? Lin? I hate Lin but even I can say that he was sleeping on a couch while making the minimum... I would take the payday (after already having surgery) as well.

I don't knock him either for doing it.

I'm just stating what happened. He chose the payday over the playoffs.

Why do you hate Lin? I don't. I just hate the Lin worshippers.

Why did Melo tell the media that the Rockets overpaid for Lin? Wouldn't that be counterproductive especially with his role in the NBAPA?

My comprehension of that entire convo was Melo calling that poison pill ridiculous. That's why the Knicks didn't match. The tax implications from that poison pill was ridiculous and we were already in the lux tax.

He called the poison pill ridiculous. Not the contract. Houston fuqed us over.

[whocares1]

I don't knock him either for doing it.

I'm just stating what happened. He chose the payday over the playoffs.

Why do you hate Lin? I don't. I just hate the Lin worshippers.

Why did Melo tell the media that the Rockets overpaid for Lin? Wouldn't that be counterproductive especially with his role in the NBAPA?

Cause they damn sure did

You're not getting the point. Dellavadova got overpaid and Lebron shouted him out. Tyler Johnson got overpaid and Dwayne Wade shouted him out. That's what you do in the NBA. You root for your fellow NBA brother to get the most money possible. Jeremy Lin didn't receive that backing from Carmelo Anthony, who holds a high position in the NBAPA.

[Greenie]

Why did Melo tell the media that the Rockets overpaid for Lin? Wouldn't that be counterproductive especially with his role in the NBAPA?

Cause they damn sure did

You're not getting the point. Dellavadova got overpaid and Lebron shouted him out. Tyler Johnson got overpaid and Dwayne Wade shouted him out. That's what you do in the NBA. You root for your fellow NBA brother to get the most money possible. Jeremy Lin didn't receive that backing from Carmelo Anthony, who holds a high position in the NBAPA.

Read my last post. The media twisted that ****. Dude was asked about the actual poison pill. Fans ran with it because it painted Melo as an ****.

[Jalen Bluntson]

The trade, D'Antoni and Lin(which is the biggest reach I have ever seen).

Except he was willing to go to Brooklyn, not because he wanted to play here. Because he wanted his max and a chance to form a big 3. He wanted out of Denver. Not because he wanted to be a Knick. That's a lie. He also was willing to leave in FA after all it took to get him here. Then he took the max and a NTC plus kicker to stay.

Never once has he left this team in a better position to build around him. He didn't attract FA. He didn't want to adapt his game. He didn't want certain coaches or players and a GM.

The FO has been a mess. He contributed to that mess with Dolan forcing the trade because he said he would go to Brooklyn.

He is a very good player. He has played the good soldier in the press. He has left it all out on the court. He has not done anything to warrant such blind devotion. He's made selfish, me first decisions that have hurt the team. These are facts. It's not all on him...but....some of it is.

It's time to move on either way and fans should be allowed to want that without hearing about it. Melo is not the victim by any stretch in this story.

This is nonsense Sir. Thete was no money to attract anything when STAT was here. Why can't you understand that?

Moving in from him is all business but when he wants his money it's not?

I should be able to defend Melo without hearing about it.

They were building a team and STAT contract was a bigger mistake than Melo but, Melo forced his way here. He did not care about anything but his money and getting out of Denver. So when you defend Melo, don't forget these facts. Don't forget he was willing to leave after that with us getting nothing in return. He also left almost zero cap flexibility while he got a second max deal with a NTC and a kicker to stay. Then he wanted a buyout.

You defend him and curse the team/fans as if he has been wronged by us. You call out the whole fan base for one player who has FACTUALLY put his needs before this team.

Everyone knows that the teams dysfunctional leadership...DOLAN...has fuqqed this whole thing up. They want to rebuild. They want to move on. He's not a part of that logically. You meltdown at the slightest joke about Melo. It's over. It didn't work out. He wasn't a draw for FA. He wasn't a perfect student. He was greedy. We're even. Time to go.

[SelbyCobra]

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/22110/melo-calls-lin-contract-ridiculous

"It's not up to me," Anthony said with a laugh before the U.S. Olympic team's practice. "It's up to the organization to say they want to match that ridiculous contract that's out there."

[Da_Mane_Man]

Why did Melo tell the media that the Rockets overpaid for Lin? Wouldn't that be counterproductive especially with his role in the NBAPA?

Cause they damn sure did

You're not getting the point. Dellavadova got overpaid and Lebron shouted him out. Tyler Johnson got overpaid and Dwayne Wade shouted him out. That's what you do in the NBA. You root for your fellow NBA brother to get the most money possible. Jeremy Lin didn't receive that backing from Carmelo Anthony, who holds a high position in the NBAPA.

Because he was jealous of Lin. There have been reports about it.

[Greenie]

The way Houston set that contract up was ridiculous.
http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/carmelo-anthony-jeremy-lin-contract-ridiculous/146514

[whocares1]

Double dribble.

[whocares1]

I don't knock him either for doing it.

I'm just stating what happened. He chose the payday over the playoffs.

Why do you hate Lin? I don't. I just hate the Lin worshippers.

Why did Melo tell the media that the Rockets overpaid for Lin? Wouldn't that be counterproductive especially with his role in the NBAPA?

My comprehension of that entire convo was Melo calling that poison pill ridiculous. That's why the Knicks didn't match. The tax implications from that poison pill was ridiculous and we were already in the lux tax.

He called the poison pill ridiculous. Not the contract. Houston fuqed us over.

"It's not up to me," Anthony said with a laugh before the U.S. Olympic team's practice. "It's up to the organization to say they want to match that ridiculous contract that's out there."

This was Melo's actual quote. Even if Melo somehow believed that the contract was ridiculous due to luxury tax implications, the comment comes off as tasteless. He's pretty much saying, it's not my choice if the Knicks want to do something stupid like matching that contract. He should've never made those comments because it doesn't bode well.

[Greenie]

"There have been (unfounded) rumors that Carmelo, for whatever reason, didn’t like Lin, and this quote from Melo about Lin in February was certainly suspicious. So it’s easy for some people to see Melo saying Lin is being offered a “ridiculous contract” and interpret it as a shot at the unproven Lin. But that’s simply not the case here. (Especially because Carmelo added, “I’d love to see him back, but I think he has to do what’s best for him right now.”)"

[Greenie]

Why did Melo tell the media that the Rockets overpaid for Lin? Wouldn't that be counterproductive especially with his role in the NBAPA?

My comprehension of that entire convo was Melo calling that poison pill ridiculous. That's why the Knicks didn't match. The tax implications from that poison pill was ridiculous and we were already in the lux tax.

He called the poison pill ridiculous. Not the contract. Houston fuqed us over.

"It's not up to me," Anthony said with a laugh before the U.S. Olympic team's practice. "It's up to the organization to say they want to match that ridiculous contract that's out there."

This was Melo's actual quote. Even if Melo somehow believed that the contract was ridiculous due to luxury tax implications, the comment comes off as tasteless. He's pretty much saying, it's not my choice if the Knicks want to do something stupid like matching that contract. He should've never made those comments because it doesn't bode well.

They cut out the rest of his statement.