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OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice

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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#41 » by DOT » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:35 pm

Dantares wrote:Oh come one we will give you Lee and o Quinn for that 1st round pick and a decent young small forward. Damnit perry

They're trying to dump salary so they can afford Cousins in the offseason

Maybe they'd be interested in KOQ, but not Lee

Even though Tim has produced very well, this is why his signing may not be the best thing for us. If we kept the cap space, we could eat Asik's contract for the pick
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#42 » by Sark » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:44 pm

K-DOT wrote:
Dantares wrote:Oh come one we will give you Lee and o Quinn for that 1st round pick and a decent young small forward. Damnit perry

They're trying to dump salary so they can afford Cousins in the offseason

Maybe they'd be interested in KOQ, but not Lee

Even though Tim has produced very well, this is why his signing may not be the best thing for us. If we kept the cap space, we could eat Asik's contract for the pick


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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#43 » by Blockwatcher » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:48 pm

The salary works if we trade Oquinn & Mcdermott straight up for Asik. Whys everybody flying off the handle?
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#44 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:51 pm

WAKE UP PERRY!

KOQ and Lee for that pick....
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#45 » by Capn'O » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:52 pm

Blockwatcher wrote:The salary works if we trade Oquinn & Mcdermott straight up for Asik. Whys everybody flying off the handle?


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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#46 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:57 pm

Now sure why anyone has to wake up...The Pelicans have to be interested first. lol
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#47 » by HEZI » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:59 pm

They might consider KOQ even though he does have a player option for next year. I think they prefer a guaranteed expiring, but if they did take on KOQ and McDermott, they could decline the option on Doug and take the risk of KOQ opting out. Even if he opts in that's still a 5 mil difference between him and Asik for next season so they might consider it. Would def. be working the phones with them right now though
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#48 » by DOT » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:59 pm

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Dantares wrote:Oh come one we will give you Lee and o Quinn for that 1st round pick and a decent young small forward. Damnit perry

They're trying to dump salary so they can afford Cousins in the offseason

Maybe they'd be interested in KOQ, but not Lee

Even though Tim has produced very well, this is why his signing may not be the best thing for us. If we kept the cap space, we could eat Asik's contract for the pick


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But then y'all turn it into some major catastrophe that will destroy the franchise

It's 30 million in dead cap over 3 years for a late first rounder. It's really not that big of a deal if we miss it. Tim will most likely be better than whoever we would've picked there anyways, and we'd be capped out regardless
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#49 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:59 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Blockwatcher wrote:The salary works if we trade Oquinn & Mcdermott straight up for Asik. Whys everybody flying off the handle?


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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#50 » by DOT » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:00 pm

mpharris36 wrote:WAKE UP PERRY!

KOQ and Lee for that pick....

KOQ and Doug

They don't want to take on salary past this year so they don't have to go into the luxury to afford Boogie
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#51 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:00 pm

HEZI wrote:They might consider KOQ even though he does have a player option for next year. I think they prefer a guaranteed expiring, but if they did take on KOQ and McDermott, they could decline the option on Doug and take the risk of KOQ opting out. Even if he opts in that's still a 5 mil difference between him and Asik for next season so they might consider it. Would def. be working the phones with them right now though


if KOQ opts in you could easily move him for cap space....4 million dollars for one of the better backup bigs...he could get easily moved for a 2nd round pick and TPE.
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#52 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:00 pm

K-DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:WAKE UP PERRY!

KOQ and Lee for that pick....

KOQ and Doug

They don't want to take on salary past this year so they don't have to go into the luxury to afford Boogie


thats fine with me too. save lee to get another 1st round pick from another team.

Also opens up minutes for WHG...and we get a protected 1st rounder
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#53 » by DOT » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:03 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:WAKE UP PERRY!

KOQ and Lee for that pick....

KOQ and Doug

They don't want to take on salary past this year so they don't have to go into the luxury to afford Boogie


thats fine with me too.

I don't really care either way

If we do it, meh. 3 years 30 million for a late first is fine I guess, but odds are whoever we pick isn't that good

If we don't, meh. I'll wait until the deadline passes before I get mad at Perry for not making moves
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Post#54 » by HEZI » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:04 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
HEZI wrote:They might consider KOQ even though he does have a player option for next year. I think they prefer a guaranteed expiring, but if they did take on KOQ and McDermott, they could decline the option on Doug and take the risk of KOQ opting out. Even if he opts in that's still a 5 mil difference between him and Asik for next season so they might consider it. Would def. be working the phones with them right now though


if KOQ opts in you could easily move him for cap space....4 million dollars for one of the better backup bigs...he could get easily moved for a 2nd round pick and TPE.


It's all up to the owners. They don't want to pay luxury tax after resigning Boogie so it all depends on how much money they are looking to offer him to bring him back and how worth it is it for them to risk paying the penalty tax. It's not really up to the FO, it's the owners.
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#55 » by HEZI » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:05 pm

KOQ and Doug alone actually doesn't work. We would have to also include either Beasley or Jack
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#56 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:06 pm

K-DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:KOQ and Doug

They don't want to take on salary past this year so they don't have to go into the luxury to afford Boogie


thats fine with me too.

I don't really care either way

If we do it, meh. 3 years 30 million for a late first is fine I guess, but odds are whoever we pick isn't that good

If we don't, meh. I'll wait until the deadline passes before I get mad at Perry for not making moves


asik is only a 2 year deal...that last year is only 3 million buy out.
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Post#57 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:06 pm

HEZI wrote:KOQ and Doug alone actually doesn't work. We would have to also include either Beasley or Jack


it does

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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#58 » by DOT » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:08 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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mpharris36 wrote:
thats fine with me too.

I don't really care either way

If we do it, meh. 3 years 30 million for a late first is fine I guess, but odds are whoever we pick isn't that good

If we don't, meh. I'll wait until the deadline passes before I get mad at Perry for not making moves


asik is only a 2 year deal...that last year is only 3 million buy out.

I thought his last year was a PO?

If we only have to take him on for 2 years, then that's a lot better

I liked that trade you proposed in the other thread, with us getting firsts from Minny and the Pels. Don't realistically see it happening, it's kinda too much of a 2k trade though
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#59 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:08 pm

Problem might be that the Knicks may not want to take on salary. They will be playing the middle again.
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Re: OT: Bulls will trade Nikola Mirotic to the Pelicans - UPDATE - Deal on ice 

Post#60 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:11 pm

K-DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:I don't really care either way

If we do it, meh. 3 years 30 million for a late first is fine I guess, but odds are whoever we pick isn't that good

If we don't, meh. I'll wait until the deadline passes before I get mad at Perry for not making moves


asik is only a 2 year deal...that last year is only 3 million buy out.

I thought his last year was a PO?

If we only have to take him on for 2 years, then that's a lot better

I liked that trade you proposed in the other thread, with us getting firsts from Minny and the Pels. Don't realistically see it happening, it's kinda too much of a 2k trade though



http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-orleans-pelicans/omer-asik-7110/

if you go down to 2019 notes...only 3 million guaranteed for 2019 so if we cut him in 2019 we are only on the books for 3 million not 12 million.
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