Around The NBA Week 17 - The Truth Hurts!

[god shammgod]

I know what you were doing.


In seriousness, a trade like

Kemba/Willy/MKG

For

Kawhi/Lauvergne

Might make some sense if the Hornets can grab Sexton in the draft.



On the Knicks front - Kawhi's a guy that you get and ask questions later, imo. I think I would move KP for him. Then the Spurs can tank next year and do that whole Twin Towers thing they did that one time.

And watch Popovich turn KP into a top 20 player all time, while Kawhi has nagging injuries for the rest of his career in NY? No thanks. Let's just let the Knicks tank the next 2 years, and build organically, rather than go for the next quick fix.

I would do it without a grab bag of assets attached. Just kp with filler. I understand some wouldn't do that.

For me, you have to pay both in 2019 and both have an injury history now. KP's upside might be where Kawhi is. Both are two way players. I would take the known piece.

he's gonna choose where he goes. he's a free agent in summer 19. so nobody will trade much for him without a commitment. unless it's a really good team where they feel he'll stay and so they'll take that chance like okc did with george. and if oladipo doesn't break out this year it would seem like they didn't give up much at all. what's the chance he says that he wants to sign with the knicks after supposedly complaining about not having free agents come to san antonio ? the only way you might convince him to come is to play with kp. not for him. and that would require multiple 1st then.

[Sark]

I know what you were doing.


In seriousness, a trade like

Kemba/Willy/MKG

For

Kawhi/Lauvergne

Might make some sense if the Hornets can grab Sexton in the draft.



On the Knicks front - Kawhi's a guy that you get and ask questions later, imo. I think I would move KP for him. Then the Spurs can tank next year and do that whole Twin Towers thing they did that one time.

And watch Popovich turn KP into a top 20 player all time, while Kawhi has nagging injuries for the rest of his career in NY? No thanks. Let's just let the Knicks tank the next 2 years, and build organically, rather than go for the next quick fix.

I would do it without a grab bag of assets attached. Just kp with filler. I understand some wouldn't do that.

For me, you have to pay both in 2019 and both have an injury history now. KP's upside might be where Kawhi is. Both are two way players. I would take the known piece.

It doesn't make sense because the Knicks are far away from contending, and acquiring Kawhi now would put us in contend now mode. KP's injury is actually a blessing in disguise because it allows us to sit back and develop for 2 years at least. I'd rather have the younger player with more time, than the more established player that will push us to contend right away during the Lebron-Warriors era.

Getting Kawhi would be a duplicate of getting Melo. TRADE for a star (instead of waiting for them to be a free agent), while you have no means to get any other stars to accompany him. It would be Kawhi + scrubs + capped out. No thanks. Seen that movie already and I know how it ends.

[god shammgod]

i'm kinda with sark. the only way this would make some sense is if you could put kp and kawhi together. and even then you need to rush into putting the rest of the team together. so it's still not perfect, but at least you have your 2 stars in place. of course with our luck they'll both be injured and the spurs will get top 5 picks from us. the knicks really need to become more risk averse. if timmy becomes an all-star this will be a great deal. if amare stays healthy. if curry starts to take care of his weight. if mcdyess recovers. and so on. we're always putting the house payments on the blackjack table and then are shocked when we end up homeless.

[2010]

And watch Popovich turn KP into a top 20 player all time, while Kawhi has nagging injuries for the rest of his career in NY? No thanks. Let's just let the Knicks tank the next 2 years, and build organically, rather than go for the next quick fix.

I would do it without a grab bag of assets attached. Just kp with filler. I understand some wouldn't do that.

For me, you have to pay both in 2019 and both have an injury history now. KP's upside might be where Kawhi is. Both are two way players. I would take the known piece.

It doesn't make sense because the Knicks are far away from contending, and acquiring Kawhi now would put us in contend now mode. KP's injury is actually a blessing in disguise because it allows us to sit back and develop for 2 years at least. I'd rather have the younger player with more time, than the more established player that will push us to contend right away during the Lebron-Warriors era.

Getting Kawhi would be a duplicate of getting Melo. TRADE for a star (instead of waiting for them to be a free agent), while you have no means to get any other stars to accompany him. It would be Kawhi + scrubs + capped out. No thanks. Seen that movie already and I know how it ends.

True, makes sense.

[Marty McFly]

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[El Poochio]

Kawhi would be a perfect get for our title run next year

[nykballa2k4]

Kawhi is done for the year... Wonder if the Spurs trade him over the summer...

I can see them trying to trade him for kp like they did last year(according to SAS) to which I'll say no.

This is the craziest BS I've read here this year. Sorry to say that.

Which part? We shouldn't deal KP for Kawhi because he's only going to be a bigger problem for us. No one ever came to NY and became a less problematic player (Zach Randolph is the closest to it).

[Greenie]

I was being sarcastic with Shamm because as we know people were against trading Willy for Kyrie... But yeah I though/think the Spurs would be a good candidate for Kemba if they wanted to go all in. He could play the Parker role to a T for Pop and Charlotte was able to craft an elite D around him so I'm sure the Spurs would just keep chugging along on that end as well... On the MKG front, I don't even think the Spurs could fix his broken jumper

I know what you were doing.


In seriousness, a trade like

Kemba/Willy/MKG

For

Kawhi/Lauvergne

Might make some sense if the Hornets can grab Sexton in the draft.



On the Knicks front - Kawhi's a guy that you get and ask questions later, imo. I think I would move KP for him. Then the Spurs can tank next year and do that whole Twin Towers thing they did that one time.

And watch Popovich turn KP into a top 20 player all time, while Kawhi has nagging injuries for the rest of his career in NY? No thanks. Let's just let the Knicks tank the next 2 years, and build organically, rather than go for the next quick fix.

I don’t care. I want Kawhi.

[Sark]

I know what you were doing.


In seriousness, a trade like

Kemba/Willy/MKG

For

Kawhi/Lauvergne

Might make some sense if the Hornets can grab Sexton in the draft.



On the Knicks front - Kawhi's a guy that you get and ask questions later, imo. I think I would move KP for him. Then the Spurs can tank next year and do that whole Twin Towers thing they did that one time.

And watch Popovich turn KP into a top 20 player all time, while Kawhi has nagging injuries for the rest of his career in NY? No thanks. Let's just let the Knicks tank the next 2 years, and build organically, rather than go for the next quick fix.

I don’t care. I want Kawhi.

And I want a Buggatti. That doesn't mean I should go get one.

[Greenie]

Kawhi is better than KP at every facet of the game.

Trade KP and Timmy for Kawhi

Frank
Lee
Kawhi
Porter
Kanter


Yassssssss

[Greenie]

And watch Popovich turn KP into a top 20 player all time, while Kawhi has nagging injuries for the rest of his career in NY? No thanks. Let's just let the Knicks tank the next 2 years, and build organically, rather than go for the next quick fix.

I don’t care. I want Kawhi.

And I want a Buggatti. That doesn't mean I should go get one.

Can you afford one?
If the answer is yes, I suggest you spend that cash Sark. Treat yourself.

[Capn'O]

he's a free agent in summer 19.

His UFA status vs. KP's RFA status is the compelling argument against. Probably ends my interest here.

As a building block, I would choose Kawhi easily.

[Sark]

I don’t care. I want Kawhi.

And I want a Buggatti. That doesn't mean I should go get one.

Can you afford one?
If the answer is yes, I suggest you spend that cash Sark. Treat yourself.

Kawhi is a free agent after 2019. Why not just wait to sign him as a free agent rather than gut our team?

And just because you can afford something doesn't mean you should buy it. Putting money in the bank is a really good strategy.

[god shammgod]

he's a free agent in summer 19.

His UFA status vs. KP's RFA status is the compelling argument against. Probably ends my interest here.

As a building block, I would choose Kawhi easily.

kawhi is the better player. i don't think anyone would argue that.

[Capn'O]

he's a free agent in summer 19.

His UFA status vs. KP's RFA status is the compelling argument against. Probably ends my interest here.

As a building block, I would choose Kawhi easily.

kawhi is the better player. i don't think anyone would argue that.

People might try to argue age and/or potential. Or that he makes us too good next year. I'm not buying that newsletter.

[god shammgod]

His UFA status vs. KP's RFA status is the compelling argument against. Probably ends my interest here.

As a building block, I would choose Kawhi easily.

kawhi is the better player. i don't think anyone would argue that.

People might try to argue age and/or potential. Or that he makes us too good next year. I'm not buying that newsletter.

you do have to fill out the rest of the team through trades and free agency though. your picks won't be as good after. and we know that's not that easy. kawhi also doesn't seem like he has friends around the league with his aloof personality. so i don't see him calling guys and convincing them to join him. plus, will the knicks even have the cap room/assets for that ? pointing to the melo trade is not a even good comparison to me because you were supposedly putting him together with amare. who are you putting kawhi with ? timmy ?

[Capn'O]

kawhi is the better player. i don't think anyone would argue that.

People might try to argue age and/or potential. Or that he makes us too good next year. I'm not buying that newsletter.

you do have to fill out the rest of the team through trades and free agency though. your picks won't be as good after. and we know that's not that easy. kawhi also doesn't seem like he has friends around the league with his aloof personality. so i don't see him calling guys and convincing them to join him. plus, will the knicks even have the cap room/assets for that ? pointing to the melo trade is not a even good comparison to me because you were supposedly putting him together with amare. who are you putting kawhi with ? timmy ?

Timmy's in the Kawhi deal

Look, this side of this type of argument isn't my forte. I'm having a rough time with it. I never meant to consider real situations where Kawhi would come here because there are none. It's not happening but he's my fave fave player.

[god shammgod]

People might try to argue age and/or potential. Or that he makes us too good next year. I'm not buying that newsletter.

you do have to fill out the rest of the team through trades and free agency though. your picks won't be as good after. and we know that's not that easy. kawhi also doesn't seem like he has friends around the league with his aloof personality. so i don't see him calling guys and convincing them to join him. plus, will the knicks even have the cap room/assets for that ? pointing to the melo trade is not a even good comparison to me because you were supposedly putting him together with amare. who are you putting kawhi with ? timmy ?

Timmy's in the Kawhi deal

Look, this side of this type of argument isn't my forte. I'm having a rough time with it.

we have sort of changed sides

the difference to me is that i didn't care about the players in the melo deal. and time has pretty much proven they were nothing all that special. kp when healthy is. i don't see it as similar. my idea is still the same as then. put multiple all-stars together. role players are a lot more replaceable. kawhi and kp is something. kawhi with a bunch of cap wasting role players is a slightly better version of this team.

[Capn'O]

you do have to fill out the rest of the team through trades and free agency though. your picks won't be as good after. and we know that's not that easy. kawhi also doesn't seem like he has friends around the league with his aloof personality. so i don't see him calling guys and convincing them to join him. plus, will the knicks even have the cap room/assets for that ? pointing to the melo trade is not a even good comparison to me because you were supposedly putting him together with amare. who are you putting kawhi with ? timmy ?

Timmy's in the Kawhi deal

Look, this side of this type of argument isn't my forte. I'm having a rough time with it.

we have sort of changed sides

the difference to me is that i didn't care about the players in the melo deal. and time has pretty much proven they were nothing all that special. kp when healthy is. i don't see it as similar. my idea is still the same as then. put multiple all-stars together. role players are a lot more replaceable. kawhi and kp is something. kawhi with a bunch of cap wasting role players is a slightly better version of this team.

As I said in my edits, I really wasn't meaning to explore the realities of a KP/Kawhi trade. I just love Kawhi and think he's a particularly easy player to build around with his complete game. If there's a star you can get around him... unless it's another SF that player fits!

But the actual logistics are pretty tough. KP being here AND not playing may actually increase our chances. Weird **** league, it is that these kinds of things can be valued.

[Capn'O]

^Have I mentioned that I blame the rookie scale (and possibly the draft in general) which I think should be abolished?