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[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#41 » by Boik14 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:26 am

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JBreezeNY wrote:I don’t get the fascination with Mo Bamba especially with KP on our roster. Unless y’all plan on trading KP, bringing in Mo would be idiotic.

Didn’t most of the board agree after KP’s injury he should play the 5 more?

If we can’t get Doncic just get Mikal and keep it pushin’.

Plan A - Get Doncic
Plan B - Get Mikal

Simple.

The allure of KP and Bamba is simple...7’3 KP and 7’1” Bamba (7’10” wingspan). You’re saying KP is going to be a long 4 a la Durant. I’m very open to the idea it can work.


*sigh*

I don’t care what the potential wingspan combo could be he’s a toothpick, we already went through this with KP.

He’s not a great shooter, his motor is inconsistent, when a body gets on him he turns Bitch and takes bad shots. KP needs to be more than a perimeter shooter, drafting Mo will make him precisely that.

*sigh*

He’s already altered his shooting motion...he’s been working with a shooting coach for months and has extended his range to the 3 point line.

As for the rest...patently false...except in the motor. He needs to be more consistent in his effort but I can say the same about Ayton and Bagley the later of which I absolutely think is the drafts best player
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Post#42 » by JBreezeNY » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:26 am

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Boik14 wrote:The allure of KP and Bamba is simple...7’3 KP and 7’1” Bamba (7’10” wingspan). You’re saying KP is going to be a long 4 a la Durant. I’m very open to the idea it can work.

With an established shot blocker at the rim, KP won't feel the need to help out as much.

He's a decent perimeter defender when he stays home on his man.


i think bamba is versatile enough defensively to guard perimeter 4s and you can switch him and kp 4/5 whenever u need

Ehhh I don’t know about that, I know he’s agile but I’m not sure he would be the right guy defending on the perimeter.

Wasn’t one of his issues that he stays off stretch bigs?
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#43 » by HEZI » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:27 am

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waya wrote:Almost certainly BS, but I thought I'd post it anyway. From a poster on the suns subreddit with supposed "insider" knowledge:

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Id rather take that deal then draft mikal or miles.


Well according to the newest mocks, Miles Bridges is actually expected to drop to 16 :o
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#44 » by BBALLER4FR » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:30 am

Don't really like the idea of KP and Bamba. Two players over 7'1" in your starting lineup ain't winning in todays small ball NBA era regardless of their skillset. KP is my dawg and I'm about to feel some hate, but I would explore this -

#9/Lee/LFT/Baker for Parsons/#4 (draft Bamba)

KP/THJr/(2019 Swap pick) for Schroder/#3 (draft Doncic)/(2019 Swap pick)

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Bamba
Karl Anthony-Towms

There goes my hero. He's ordinary.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#45 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:30 am

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Boston is going to need to give up more than a pick for someone to take Parsons and not get a top draft choice
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#46 » by selenium » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:32 am

HEZI wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
waya wrote:Almost certainly BS, but I thought I'd post it anyway. From a poster on the suns subreddit with supposed "insider" knowledge:

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Id rather take that deal then draft mikal or miles.


Well according to the newest mocks, Miles Bridges is actually expected to drop to 16 :o


i make that deal in a heartbeat
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#47 » by JBreezeNY » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:33 am

Boik14 wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
Boik14 wrote:The allure of KP and Bamba is simple...7’3 KP and 7’1” Bamba (7’10” wingspan). You’re saying KP is going to be a long 4 a la Durant. I’m very open to the idea it can work.


*sigh*

I don’t care what the potential wingspan combo could be he’s a toothpick, we already went through this with KP.

He’s not a great shooter, his motor is inconsistent, when a body gets on him he turns Bitch and takes bad shots. KP needs to be more than a perimeter shooter, drafting Mo will make him precisely that.

*sigh*

He’s already altered his shooting motion...he’s been working with a shooting coach for months and has extended his range to the 3 point line.

As for the rest...patently false...except in the motor. He needs to be more consistent in his effort but I can say the same about Ayton and Bagley the later of which I absolutely think is the drafts best player

That’s great, he’s not a great shooter though, he’s working on his form? That’s awesome he still shot 27% from 3.

Do I think he has potential? Yea I do but I’m honestly getting tired of looking into big men with potential especially with his faults. For such a great defender he makes some incredibly dumb defensive mistakes. KP fouls too much as it is, bring in Mo with his excessive swiping? Ha!

I don’t see what’s false though Bamba does take poor shots :dontknow:
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#48 » by selenium » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:35 am

JBreezeNY wrote:
Boik14 wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
*sigh*

I don’t care what the potential wingspan combo could be he’s a toothpick, we already went through this with KP.

He’s not a great shooter, his motor is inconsistent, when a body gets on him he turns Bitch and takes bad shots. KP needs to be more than a perimeter shooter, drafting Mo will make him precisely that.

*sigh*

He’s already altered his shooting motion...he’s been working with a shooting coach for months and has extended his range to the 3 point line.

As for the rest...patently false...except in the motor. He needs to be more consistent in his effort but I can say the same about Ayton and Bagley the later of which I absolutely think is the drafts best player

That’s great, he’s not a great shooter though, he’s working on his form? That’s awesome he still shot 27% from 3.

Do I think he has potential? Yea I do but I’m honestly getting tired of looking into big men with potential especially with his faults. For such a great defender he makes some incredibly dumb defensive mistakes. KP fouls too much as it is, bring in Mo with his excessive swiping? Ha!

I don’t see what’s false though Bamba does take poor shots :dontknow:



Let's not make excuses for what he hasnt become yet.


He is still a 2 way player, and in this league, you need 2 way players. Maybe he never becomes a guy who can put up 60% TS, but he's a player who can be a major piece of a championship team.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#49 » by Metta World WAR » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:35 am

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What kind of scam is Ainge trying to pull here? Why would the Celtics be getting the 4th pick and some other team gets the corpse of Chandler Parsons and (presumably) a lesser than 4th overall pick? Why would anyone do that? Why wouldn't they just cut the Celtics out of the equation entirely?

Reminds me of those dirtbags that would try to trade you Garbage Pail Kids cards with the sticker already peeled off
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#50 » by selenium » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:38 am

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GONYK wrote:
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What kind of scam is Ainge trying to pull here? Why would the Celtics be getting the 4th pick and some other team gets the corpse of Chandler Parsons and (presumably) a lesser than 4th overall pick? Why would anyone do that? Why wouldn't they just cut the Celtics out of the equation entirely?

Reminds me of those dirtbags that would try to trade you Garbage Pail Kids cards with the sticker already peeled off



ainge might be looking to sell high on one of his young guys...
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Re: RE: Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#51 » by blanko » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:38 am

Boik14 wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
Boik14 wrote:The allure of KP and Bamba is simple...7’3 KP and 7’1” Bamba (7’10” wingspan). You’re saying KP is going to be a long 4 a la Durant. I’m very open to the idea it can work.


*sigh*

I don’t care what the potential wingspan combo could be he’s a toothpick, we already went through this with KP.

He’s not a great shooter, his motor is inconsistent, when a body gets on him he turns Bitch and takes bad shots. KP needs to be more than a perimeter shooter, drafting Mo will make him precisely that.

*sigh*

He’s already altered his shooting motion...he’s been working with a shooting coach for months and has extended his range to the 3 point line.

As for the rest...patently false...except in the motor. He needs to be more consistent in his effort but I can say the same about Ayton and Bagley the later of which I absolutely think is the drafts best player
Lets be honest. Before Willy cauley stein got drafted, there was vids of him draining 3 pointers in workouts. It really doesn't mea much imho


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Post#52 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:40 am

JBreezeNY wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
GONYK wrote:With an established shot blocker at the rim, KP won't feel the need to help out as much.

He's a decent perimeter defender when he stays home on his man.


i think bamba is versatile enough defensively to guard perimeter 4s and you can switch him and kp 4/5 whenever u need

Ehhh I don’t know about that, I know he’s agile but I’m not sure he would be the right guy defending on the perimeter.

Wasn’t one of his issues that he stays off stretch bigs?


he's pretty nimble. he can guard stretch bigs. he chases guards well. his problem is, as you said, his effort comes and goes. i wouldn't start him at the 4, you want him at the rim, but i think you can use him and kp both there at times. they would both have less need to sag playing with each other.
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Post#53 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:41 am

blanko wrote:Before Willy cauley stein got drafted, there was vids of him draining 3 pointers in workouts. It really doesn't mea much imho


Bamba actually does shoot them in games though. He's legit a stretch player.
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Post#54 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:42 am

Metta World WAR wrote:
GONYK wrote:
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What kind of scam is Ainge trying to pull here? Why would the Celtics be getting the 4th pick and some other team gets the corpse of Chandler Parsons and (presumably) a lesser than 4th overall pick? Why would anyone do that? Why wouldn't they just cut the Celtics out of the equation entirely?

Reminds me of those dirtbags that would try to trade you Garbage Pail Kids cards with the sticker already peeled off


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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#55 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:43 am

the league went small ball because of speed, not because being tall is bad. in fact, being tall and quick is a huge advantage because everyone plays small.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#56 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:45 am

JBreezeNY wrote:I don’t get the fascination with Mo Bamba especially with KP on our roster. Unless y’all plan on trading KP, bringing in Mo would be idiotic.

Didn’t most of the board agree after KP’s injury he should play the 5 more?

If we can’t get Doncic just get Mikal and keep it pushin’.

Plan A - Get Doncic
Plan B - Get Mikal

Simple.


I actually think JJJ's a better fit. If the Knicks were taking Bamba, I would think a second trade would happen with KP.

It doesn't sound like the Knicks are serious about it anyway. They're offering nothing and hoping the Grizz are desperate. Perry is stingy. I don't expect any funny business.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#57 » by stuporman » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:45 am

It would surprise me if the Knicks did anything but take a player at 9....... and 36.... all smoke, no high. :nonono:
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#58 » by selenium » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:50 am

god shammgod wrote:the league went small ball because of speed, not because being tall is bad. in fact, being tall and quick is a huge advantage because everyone plays small.



watch the finals


Durant got so many midrange jumpers over smaller defenders because of switches on the PNR.


he didnt even need to take anyone off the dribble. Hill and JR couldnt do **** in the wing area against durant.
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Post#59 » by Da_Mane_Man » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:52 am

GONYK wrote:
Boik14 wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:I don’t get the fascination with Mo Bamba especially with KP on our roster. Unless y’all plan on trading KP, bringing in Mo would be idiotic.

Didn’t most of the board agree after KP’s injury he should play the 5 more?

If we can’t get Doncic just get Mikal and keep it pushin’.

Plan A - Get Doncic
Plan B - Get Mikal

Simple.

The allure of KP and Bamba is simple...7’3 KP and 7’1” Bamba (7’10” wingspan). You’re saying KP is going to be a long 4 a la Durant. I’m very open to the idea it can work.

With an established shot blocker at the rim, KP won't feel the need to help out as much.

He's a decent perimeter defender when he stays home on his man.


I think Bamba might be a better perimeter defender than KP. He's very athletic. He's the only big man I'd be ok with pairing with KP. because of the insane length and shot blocking/intimidation it would bring to the team.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#60 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:57 am

Knick4Real wrote:According to DAILY KNICKS the plan is to trade up to #4 AND keep #9:

If the New York Knicks want to trade into the top five, it will require the organization to take on an atrocious contract. That may not be what one wants to hear with Joakim Noah already on the roster, but it’s the cost of potentially drafting an All-NBA talent.

Without much to offer, the Knicks’ proposal to the Memphis Grizzlies would have to be centered around a willingness to take back Chandler Parsons.

For those pondering the genesis: Memphis is reportedly open to moving the No. 4 pick if it means clearing Parsons off the books.

Grizzlies fans will argue that this wouldn’t happen without the No. 9 pick, but this is the only acceptable scenario. New York can justify two contractual catastrophes if it has two top-10 draft picks, but not if it walks away with only one.

In this scenario, it would have a core of Kristaps Porzingis, a top-five pick, a top-10 pick, Frank Ntilikina, and Tim Hardaway Jr.—with a 2019 lottery pick potentially on the way.


As for Memphis, this would create immediate flexibility. Parsons is owed $24,107,258 in 2018-19, whereas Lee and Thomas will make a combined $19,373,430—thus providing nearly $5 million in cap relief for the Grizzlies.

Throw in the fact that Thomas has a non-guaranteed salary for 2019-20, and the Grizzlies could be saving as much as $12,342,841 next season while adding players who fit the culture.


https://dailyknicks.com/2018/06/19/new-york-knicks-five-potential-trades-2018-nba-draft/2/


I’d be more than happy to be the joke of the league with thjr, parsons and Noah if we also draft bomba and bridges to join Porzingis and frank

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