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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#41 » by Butch718 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:00 pm

It's kind of sad that having a larger and more passionate fan base(which is a given) as well as media coverage is the only thing we have over the Nets.

Not exactly worth bragging about. Even though I didn't exactly like their moves, I'll take their current situation over ours.
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Post#42 » by EricAnderson » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:01 pm

F N 11 wrote:These soft mfs missing out on what we got going here. Notice how everyone is happy to be here. That’s exactly what we want. This is Perry’s Team now. Any **** ups from here on out is on him.


I’d rather superstars want to be here then Bobby Portis and Wayne Ellington.

Mediocre players wanting to be here is fine and all but it doesn’t move the needle
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Post#43 » by K_ick_God » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:07 pm

Interesting discussion I had -- is it fair to compare KD to Melo as a Knick? I think that's the level he'll come down to but possibly further fall than that fairly soon.
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Post#44 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:10 pm

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JohnStarksTheDunk wrote:Nets will likely struggle with attendance again this year. There will be an initial bump and then it will level off again once Kyrie misses his usual 15-20 games.


I live in Bk and the Nets are not a hot attraction. They might get some band wagon fans but that’s it. Maybe actual Net fans would start coming out from Jersey. But they not taking knicks fans.


Can't disagree with this.
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Post#45 » by KnickyKnicks » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:12 pm

Butch718 wrote:It's kind of sad that having a larger and more passionate fan base(which is a given) as well as media coverage is the only thing we have over the Nets.

Not exactly worth bragging about. Even though I didn't exactly like their moves, I'll take their current situation over ours.


we have more than that. We have a LEGACY that the Nets will NEVER eclipse. The Nets dont run New York the Knicks will always run New York even with the Nets doing good.


We have Iconic moments and players in NBA history the Nets will never have. KD & Kyrie wont change that. Right now emotions are high all over the place but when the dust settles the Knicks will be on top.


Knick fans dickriding the nets are weak sauce.
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Post#46 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:17 pm

This is pretty dam impressive for a big man.

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Post#47 » by Butch718 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:18 pm

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Butch718 wrote:It's kind of sad that having a larger and more passionate fan base(which is a given) as well as media coverage is the only thing we have over the Nets.

Not exactly worth bragging about. Even though I didn't exactly like their moves, I'll take their current situation over ours.


we have more than that. We have a LEGACY that the Nets will NEVER eclipse. The Nets dont run New York the Knicks will always run New York even with the Nets doing good.


We have Iconic moments and players in NBA history the Nets will never have. KD & Kyrie wont change that. Right now emotions are high all over the place but when the dust settles the Knicks will be on top.


Knick fans dickriding the nets are weak sauce.


It' weak that we have to point to all this as to why we're the superior franchise. That's like my fellow Yankee fans bragging about 27 WS wins as a comeback anything anyone says. It's pathetic.

All that sh*t you mentioned doesn't matter "right now." This franchise has been run dog sh*t. The Nets were able to put something decent together in a short period of time, while we haven't. They currently have a better team and more competent management. Those are facts. Until I see the Knicks actually improving and not crapping out on their draft picks, nothing will change that fact.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#48 » by King of Canada » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:22 pm

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Butch718 wrote:It's kind of sad that having a larger and more passionate fan base(which is a given) as well as media coverage is the only thing we have over the Nets.

Not exactly worth bragging about. Even though I didn't exactly like their moves, I'll take their current situation over ours.


we have more than that. We have a LEGACY that the Nets will NEVER eclipse. The Nets dont run New York the Knicks will always run New York even with the Nets doing good.


We have Iconic moments and players in NBA history the Nets will never have. KD & Kyrie wont change that. Right now emotions are high all over the place but when the dust settles the Knicks will be on top.


Knick fans dickriding the nets are weak sauce.


It' weak that we have to point to all this as to why we're the superior franchise. That's like my fellow Yankee fans bragging about 27 WS wins as a comeback anything anyone says. It's pathetic.

All that sh*t you mentioned doesn't matter "right now." This franchise has been run dog sh*t. The Nets were able to put something decent together in a short period of time, while we haven't. They currently have a better team and more competent management. Those are facts. Until I see the Knicks actually improving and not crapping out on their draft picks, nothing will change that fact.


But what would you rather have the Knicks do? KD is ONE player, and just had a massive injury, and is out for the year (and may have gone elsewhere in any scenario). The Knicks made the same call that a lot of other teams would have made and backed off. Would you rather have had the Knicks pursue Jimmy Butler and whoever? I think what Perry is doing is trying to build something so these conversations no longer need to be had. I'll take decades of success starting in a couple of years over a risk of maxing out on Kyrie and a possible ghost of Durant. If KD had signed in LA most of these conversations wouldn't even happen.
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Post#49 » by F N 11 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:25 pm

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F N 11 wrote:These soft mfs missing out on what we got going here. Notice how everyone is happy to be here. That’s exactly what we want. This is Perry’s Team now. Any **** ups from here on out is on him.


I’d rather superstars want to be here then Bobby Portis and Wayne Ellington.

Mediocre players wanting to be here is fine and all but it doesn’t move the needle

My point is we are building something.
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Post#50 » by F N 11 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:26 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:This is pretty dam impressive for a big man.

Read on Twitter

He reminds me of Amare.
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Post#51 » by Butch718 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:30 pm

King of Canada wrote:But what would you rather have the Knicks do? KD is ONE player, and just had a massive injury, and is out for the year (and may have gone elsewhere in any scenario). The Knicks made the same call that a lot of other teams would have made and backed off. Would you rather have had the Knicks pursue Jimmy Butler and whoever? I think what Perry is doing is trying to build something so these conversations no longer need to be had. I'll take decades of success starting in a couple of years over a risk of maxing out on Kyrie and a possible ghost of Durant. If KD had signed in LA most of these conversations wouldn't even happen.


I already mentioned in some of my previous posts that I didn't want KD after he suffered his injury. I also think Kyrie is a ticking time bomb. I just think it's ironic how we put down their fan base and lack of fans and media attention, when our franchise has been a laughing stock for the past 18 years(minus the season we won 54 games). All that stuff is pretty trivial.

Their situation is far from perfect, but it's a lot better than ours. This team needs to show signs of improvement this season. No more tanking, we need to be trending upwards. Until I see that, I'm going to continue being skeptical of management.
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Post#52 » by ophdog » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:32 pm

F N 11 wrote:
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F N 11 wrote:These soft mfs missing out on what we got going here. Notice how everyone is happy to be here. That’s exactly what we want. This is Perry’s Team now. Any **** ups from here on out is on him.


I’d rather superstars want to be here then Bobby Portis and Wayne Ellington.

Mediocre players wanting to be here is fine and all but it doesn’t move the needle

My point is we are building something.


We are 2 years away from being 2 years away
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Post#53 » by K_ick_God » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:32 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:This is pretty dam impressive for a big man.

Read on Twitter


His game is fully that of a small forward. He does seem to watch plays on D.

I like his passing. 3 apg and definitely knows how to pass.
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Post#54 » by King of Canada » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:45 pm

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King of Canada wrote:But what would you rather have the Knicks do? KD is ONE player, and just had a massive injury, and is out for the year (and may have gone elsewhere in any scenario). The Knicks made the same call that a lot of other teams would have made and backed off. Would you rather have had the Knicks pursue Jimmy Butler and whoever? I think what Perry is doing is trying to build something so these conversations no longer need to be had. I'll take decades of success starting in a couple of years over a risk of maxing out on Kyrie and a possible ghost of Durant. If KD had signed in LA most of these conversations wouldn't even happen.


I already mentioned in some of my previous posts that I didn't want KD after he suffered his injury. I also think Kyrie is a ticking time bomb. I just think it's ironic how we put down their fan base and lack of fans and media attention, when our franchise has been a laughing stock for the past 18 years(minus the season we won 54 games). All that stuff is pretty trivial.

Their situation is far from perfect, but it's a lot better than ours. This team needs to show signs of improvement this season. No more tanking, we need to be trending upwards. Until I see that, I'm going to continue being skeptical of management.


I think we are right there though as far as moving in the right direction. This season should be fun, and if RJ pans out and Mitch continues on his path we'll have more to brag about very soon.
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Post#55 » by blumatic » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:48 pm

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King of Canada wrote:But what would you rather have the Knicks do? KD is ONE player, and just had a massive injury, and is out for the year (and may have gone elsewhere in any scenario). The Knicks made the same call that a lot of other teams would have made and backed off. Would you rather have had the Knicks pursue Jimmy Butler and whoever? I think what Perry is doing is trying to build something so these conversations no longer need to be had. I'll take decades of success starting in a couple of years over a risk of maxing out on Kyrie and a possible ghost of Durant. If KD had signed in LA most of these conversations wouldn't even happen.


I already mentioned in some of my previous posts that I didn't want KD after he suffered his injury. I also think Kyrie is a ticking time bomb. I just think it's ironic how we put down their fan base and lack of fans and media attention, when our franchise has been a laughing stock for the past 18 years(minus the season we won 54 games). All that stuff is pretty trivial.

Their situation is far from perfect, but it's a lot better than ours. This team needs to show signs of improvement this season. No more tanking, we need to be trending upwards. Until I see that, I'm going to continue being skeptical of management.



Results matter. I agree. But you should be very pleased with management.

The handling of the KP trade as detailed by Marc Stein in the NY Times gave me ultimate confidence.

Because of year long diligent business practice, they had their finger on the pulse on this team and KP's actual trade value.

That situation wasn't a story for long. He was traded so quickly, and Knicks got a nice return and unloaded the contract.

They didn't waste their time to desperately hope for an audience with KD. They just moved on and built their team in a day.

They said no long term deals to non superstars.

Maintained cap flexibility.

And I like that they said no to KD and Kyrie.

A desperate franchise ceases to become desperate when they stop acting like it.

Management is betting on themselves.

The Nets as a franchise needed this so badly. But they won't truly have it until 2020.

The Knicks need only show improvement to get the momentum back.
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Post#56 » by KnickyKnicks » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:51 pm

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Butch718 wrote:It's kind of sad that having a larger and more passionate fan base(which is a given) as well as media coverage is the only thing we have over the Nets.

Not exactly worth bragging about. Even though I didn't exactly like their moves, I'll take their current situation over ours.


we have more than that. We have a LEGACY that the Nets will NEVER eclipse. The Nets dont run New York the Knicks will always run New York even with the Nets doing good.


We have Iconic moments and players in NBA history the Nets will never have. KD & Kyrie wont change that. Right now emotions are high all over the place but when the dust settles the Knicks will be on top.


Knick fans dickriding the nets are weak sauce.


It' weak that we have to point to all this as to why we're the superior franchise. That's like my fellow Yankee fans bragging about 27 WS wins as a comeback anything anyone says. It's pathetic.

All that sh*t you mentioned doesn't matter "right now." This franchise has been run dog sh*t. The Nets were able to put something decent together in a short period of time, while we haven't. They currently have a better team and more competent management. Those are facts. Until I see the Knicks actually improving and not crapping out on their draft picks, nothing will change that fact.


After you finish crying about everything.

Read this. Maybe you will understand why the majority of what you talking about is irrelevant to the big picture. If all you see is "now" then go be a net fan....

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Butch718 wrote:It's kind of sad that having a larger and more passionate fan base(which is a given) as well as media coverage is the only thing we have over the Nets.

Not exactly worth bragging about. Even though I didn't exactly like their moves, I'll take their current situation over ours.


we have more than that. We have a LEGACY that the Nets will NEVER eclipse. The Nets dont run New York the Knicks will always run New York even with the Nets doing good.


We have Iconic moments and players in NBA history the Nets will never have. KD & Kyrie wont change that. Right now emotions are high all over the place but when the dust settles the Knicks will be on top.


Knick fans dickriding the nets are weak sauce.


It' weak that we have to point to all this as to why we're the superior franchise. That's like my fellow Yankee fans bragging about 27 WS wins as a comeback anything anyone says. It's pathetic.

All that sh*t you mentioned doesn't matter "right now." This franchise has been run dog sh*t. The Nets were able to put something decent together in a short period of time, while we haven't. They currently have a better team and more competent management. Those are facts. Until I see the Knicks actually improving and not crapping out on their draft picks, nothing will change that fact.

You do realize that Rj Barrett is our first top 3 pick since Ewing right
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Post#58 » by F N 11 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:55 pm

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I’d rather superstars want to be here then Bobby Portis and Wayne Ellington.

Mediocre players wanting to be here is fine and all but it doesn’t move the needle

My point is we are building something.


We are 2 years away from being 2 years away

Whatever man. Im not going back and forth with you debbie downers.
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Post#60 » by malik959 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 6:56 pm

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Stannis wrote:They would have to win a championship for this to happen... Don't forget, it's still the Brooklyn Nets and not the New York Nets

As of right now, all the headlines they are getting is Knicks V. Nets. Unless they make headlines on their own, I don't see it. They still have to get the Knicks in there somewhere to get views/clicks.

Just look at the Clippers and Lakers. While Lakers sucked, Clippers had PC3, Blake Griffen, and DeAndre Jordan. They made the playoffs consistently. Were both LA teams and even shared the same arena. Yet, that city was still primarily Lakers.

Nets made the Finals....back to back, and STILL we were the talk of the town.

That’s mind blowing to me.

KD, you done **** up.


I didn't know we could quote someone from another thread that was locked? How did you do that lol


We're soooo bad, but we bring in so much publicity from everyone else while the Nets only sell out games are when we play against them. He's mad because he couldn't go anywhere in New York without somebody saying something.

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