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There is legitimate support within the Knicks organization for Kenny Atkinson

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Re: There is legitimate support within the Knicks organization for Kenny Atkinson 

Post#41 » by iLLmatic860 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:56 am

After watching Pooch interview on Knicksfantv. I am fully aboard the Kenny to Knicks bandwagon

Kenny loves Frank and would def develop him. Maybe there would be hope for Knox as well.
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Post#42 » by Dantares » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:37 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:After watching Pooch interview on Knicksfantv. I am fully aboard the Kenny to Knicks bandwagon

Kenny loves Frank and would def develop him. Maybe there would be hope for Knox as well.


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Post#43 » by mpharris36 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:45 pm

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D-Lo, Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, Caris LeVert...not a bad resume for player development.
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Re: There is legitimate support within the Knicks organization for Kenny Atkinson 

Post#44 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:50 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Bootleg Pringles


D-Lo, Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, Caris LeVert...not a bad resume for player development.


Or maybe they were just decent when they were drafted...

Oh right. Sean Marks just sucks.
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Re: There is legitimate support within the Knicks organization for Kenny Atkinson 

Post#45 » by mpharris36 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:03 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Bootleg Pringles


D-Lo, Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, Caris LeVert...not a bad resume for player development.


Or maybe they were just decent when they were drafted...

Oh right. Sean Marks just sucks.


I dont think it has to be extremes. Marks has made good moves. And Kenny developed those players.

Harris was a middling NBA player and now is going to get 15-18 million a year for being one of the best shooters in the NBA (2nd round pick)

Dinwiddie was a blah second round pick in detroit and now he is a 20 and 7 player (2nd round pick)

Caris LeVert was a late first round pick with an injury history and was a 17-4-4 player (late 1st round pick)

He helped turned D-Lo from a failed top pick to an all-star.

If we are looking for someone to give a couple years to actually develop our young guys. I firmly believe Kenny would be the best option if that is the route we go in.
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Re: There is legitimate support within the Knicks organization for Kenny Atkinson 

Post#46 » by GIMME_DATT » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:42 pm

Sark wrote:I'm sure they'll find a way to screw this up.

Supposed to get Kerr. Got Derek Fisher.

Supposed to get Budenholzer. Got David Fizdale.

Kerr is a product of having a insanely stacked roster. How much coaching is really required when your talent is just so much better than everybody else in the league
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Re: There is legitimate support within the Knicks organization for Kenny Atkinson 

Post#47 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:39 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
D-Lo, Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, Caris LeVert...not a bad resume for player development.


Or maybe they were just decent when they were drafted...

Oh right. Sean Marks just sucks.


I dont think it has to be extremes. Marks has made good moves. And Kenny developed those players.

Harris was a middling NBA player and now is going to get 15-18 million a year for being one of the best shooters in the NBA (2nd round pick)

Dinwiddie was a blah second round pick in detroit and now he is a 20 and 7 player (2nd round pick)

Caris LeVert was a late first round pick with an injury history and was a 17-4-4 player (late 1st round pick)

He helped turned D-Lo from a failed top pick to an all-star.

If we are looking for someone to give a couple years to actually develop our young guys. I firmly believe Kenny would be the best option if that is the route we go in.


Or they aged into their ability.
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Post#48 » by rajajackal » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:48 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
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Or maybe they were just decent when they were drafted...

Oh right. Sean Marks just sucks.


I dont think it has to be extremes. Marks has made good moves. And Kenny developed those players.

Harris was a middling NBA player and now is going to get 15-18 million a year for being one of the best shooters in the NBA (2nd round pick)

Dinwiddie was a blah second round pick in detroit and now he is a 20 and 7 player (2nd round pick)

Caris LeVert was a late first round pick with an injury history and was a 17-4-4 player (late 1st round pick)

He helped turned D-Lo from a failed top pick to an all-star.

If we are looking for someone to give a couple years to actually develop our young guys. I firmly believe Kenny would be the best option if that is the route we go in.


Or they aged into their ability.


that's a fair point, but i do think that a coach is extremely relevant to a player taking their next steps. look at how our awful coaches have failed to nurture the raw talent on our squad, for instance

Edit: having said that, i think Thibs would get the best out of our squad too. the only reason i prefer Kenny is because it gives me confidence that our team's long-cursed PG position will be mended, no matter who is playing
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Post#49 » by iLLmatic860 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:08 pm

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DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:After watching Pooch interview on Knicksfantv. I am fully aboard the Kenny to Knicks bandwagon

Kenny loves Frank and would def develop him. Maybe there would be hope for Knox as well.


Who is pooch?

nets fan daily apooch on twitter
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Post#50 » by HerSports85 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:09 pm

Kenny or Thibs .. I’m ok with either one. For me it’s the assistant coaches. I want Miller and Stackhouse
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Re: There is legitimate support within the Knicks organization for Kenny Atkinson 

Post#51 » by mpharris36 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:16 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Or maybe they were just decent when they were drafted...

Oh right. Sean Marks just sucks.


I dont think it has to be extremes. Marks has made good moves. And Kenny developed those players.

Harris was a middling NBA player and now is going to get 15-18 million a year for being one of the best shooters in the NBA (2nd round pick)

Dinwiddie was a blah second round pick in detroit and now he is a 20 and 7 player (2nd round pick)

Caris LeVert was a late first round pick with an injury history and was a 17-4-4 player (late 1st round pick)

He helped turned D-Lo from a failed top pick to an all-star.

If we are looking for someone to give a couple years to actually develop our young guys. I firmly believe Kenny would be the best option if that is the route we go in.


Or they aged into their ability.


I mean that would be a horrible take. But you are entilted to it.

That would suggest no coach is important or helps any players because we don't know if it was just growing into there abilities.
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Post#52 » by rajajackal » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:18 pm

HerSports85 wrote:Kenny or Thibs .. I’m ok with either one. For me it’s the assistant coaches. I want Miller and Stackhouse


Miller with Stackhouse as top assistant/associate head coach could be an interesting alternative to K.A./Thibs
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Post#53 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:31 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
I dont think it has to be extremes. Marks has made good moves. And Kenny developed those players.

Harris was a middling NBA player and now is going to get 15-18 million a year for being one of the best shooters in the NBA (2nd round pick)

Dinwiddie was a blah second round pick in detroit and now he is a 20 and 7 player (2nd round pick)

Caris LeVert was a late first round pick with an injury history and was a 17-4-4 player (late 1st round pick)

He helped turned D-Lo from a failed top pick to an all-star.

If we are looking for someone to give a couple years to actually develop our young guys. I firmly believe Kenny would be the best option if that is the route we go in.


Or they aged into their ability.


I mean that would be a horrible take. But you are entilted to it.

That would suggest no coach is important or helps any players because we don't know if it was just growing into there abilities.

We dont
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Post#54 » by mpharris36 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:35 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
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Or they aged into their ability.


I mean that would be a horrible take. But you are entilted to it.

That would suggest no coach is important or helps any players because we don't know if it was just growing into there abilities.

We dont


so in that case lets just hire Mark Jackson then?
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Post#55 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:41 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
I mean that would be a horrible take. But you are entilted to it.

That would suggest no coach is important or helps any players because we don't know if it was just growing into there abilities.

We dont


so in that case lets just hire Mark Jackson then?


He just might be awesome at development. How do we really know?
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Post#56 » by mpharris36 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:47 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:We dont


so in that case lets just hire Mark Jackson then?


He just might be awesome at development. How do we really know?


what we do know is he's a complete nut job

and the minute he left the organization the Warriors took off as one of the best teams in the entire league.
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Post#57 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:52 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:We dont


so in that case lets just hire Mark Jackson then?


He just might be awesome at development. How do we really know?


Proverbs 27:23

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And pay attention to your herds;

Proverbs 27:17

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Post#58 » by K_ick_God » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:10 pm

What will work better probably: Atkinson
What is the bigger move that seems telegraphed with Leon Rose's hiring: Thibs

So ... Thibs it is, Knicks it is.
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Post#59 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:31 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
so in that case lets just hire Mark Jackson then?


He just might be awesome at development. How do we really know?


Proverbs 27:23

Know well the condition of your flocks,
And pay attention to your herds;

Proverbs 27:17

Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.


TELL ME THAT'S NOT DEVELOPMENT!!!!
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Re: There is legitimate support within the Knicks organization for Kenny Atkinson 

Post#60 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:31 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
so in that case lets just hire Mark Jackson then?


He just might be awesome at development. How do we really know?


what we do know is he's a complete nut job

and the minute he left the organization the Warriors took off as one of the best teams in the entire league.


Because they were so developed in their body and, more importantly, their soul.

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