Which NBA Team can Leon dupe into acquiring King Julius

[MaseInYourFace]

As an org we need to do a better job of controlling the narrative. Hopefully Leon Rose can do that. There are much worse contracts in the nba than Randle's.

[MaseInYourFace]

Bring Randle off the bench

If he gets disruptive, waive him

Pass on 3rd year option and eat smaller cap hold in year 3

If someone wants him, trade him if deal helps Knicks future. If not, wait a year to let this pass

Done

Yeah pretty much man...

[Kampuchea]

Randle is the kind of player we should want to sign. Talented and young on low-risk contracts.

I would rather see if he is better utilized by the new coaching staff, and also if he has improved his game as should naturally occur for a 25-year-old and even more if he worked on it.

This is a short contract, it would be desperate and foolish to trade Randle without a similar younger prospect on a good contract coming back. Or for a draft pick.

[Clyde_Style]

Charlotte could end up with a Wiseman/Randle pairing

send them DSJ and Melo would switch his fandom to the hornets

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[Kampuchea]

I will do CP3 for Randle if OKC throws in assets.

Randle + future 2nd round pick for Schroeder is a good deal too if OKC wants to hold on to CP3(doubt it)

I think you are way off on the direction of OKC. They are winning now and in no rush to move those guys.

This is a 5 seed in the west and right now 2-2 with Rockets.


If anything they would want assets from us to do the trade. And we should not be giving assets for CP3 so this is NGTH

[MaseInYourFace]

I will do CP3 for Randle if OKC throws in assets.

Randle + future 2nd round pick for Schroeder is a good deal too if OKC wants to hold on to CP3(doubt it)

I think you are way off on the direction of OKC. They are winning now and in no rush to move those guys.

This is a 5 seed in the west and right now 2-2 with Rockets.


If anything they would want assets from us to do the trade. And we should not be giving assets for CP3 so this is NGTH

Yeah I think OKC deal died the moment Chris Paul got his legs back. The one thing to keep an eye on is their luxury tax situation though.

[Kampuchea]

Utah would be the best fit. Their whole offense is built around getting players in position to catch the ball going downhill, this is what Randle is best at. he would actually help Utah.

Randle for Conley + asset makes sense.

Utah is not going to be giving us Conley and an Asset for Randle. They are also a good team and looking to advance to the next round in the playoffs. Conley is good for them in win-now mode and his 38% from 3 is important to that team.

If they were getting beat badly I could see them thinking about it but definitely not in their current situation.

[Kampuchea]

Some crazy and one-sided dream offers in here that have us getting the better player from winning teams and also getting other assets. Those offers make me think Randle is overvalued on this board, while at the same time he is despised and undervalued. Maybe he only gets overvalued when imagining trade scenarios but if we aren't making up a trade he is terrible.

[Oscirus]

Really not suckering anyone. Randles a useful player who under the right circumstances would piss knicks fans off after he was traded.

[god shammgod]

only trade out there, that maybe we could do, would be for another expiring contract of an even worse player. it would be smart to do it just to get out of the little guaranteed money in year 3. we're not gonna re-sign him so it's pointless to keep him here.

[Clyde_Style]

only trade out there, that maybe we could do, would be for another expiring contract of an even worse player. it would be smart to do it just to get out of the little guaranteed money in year 3. we're not gonna re-sign him so it's pointless to keep him here.

I'd sign up for anything like that if the contract is not too long, because Randle is a Mills remnant. Rose really should try to move on from this mistake ASAP. And it creates issues for Thibs if you know the guy is not in our future plans. I really can't see anything beneficial about Randle being on the roster again.

[Mr Rabbit]

I could live with Randle for another year if he’s willing to come off the bench. If he isn’t, send him out for expiring junk or just buy him out. Last thing I would do is attach an asset to move him or take back a slightly more useful player on a longer deal.

[GONYK]

only trade out there, that maybe we could do, would be for another expiring contract of an even worse player. it would be smart to do it just to get out of the little guaranteed money in year 3. we're not gonna re-sign him so it's pointless to keep him here.

Just say Batum. It's less keystrokes.

[Dantares]

I will do CP3 for Randle if OKC throws in assets.

Randle + future 2nd round pick for Schroeder is a good deal too if OKC wants to hold on to CP3(doubt it)

I think you are way off on the direction of OKC. They are winning now and in no rush to move those guys.

This is a 5 seed in the west and right now 2-2 with Rockets.


If anything they would want assets from us to do the trade. And we should not be giving assets for CP3 so this is NGTH

No offense and I am saying this in the nicest possible way but you are completely way off on value

The entire point of a trade with OKC is to give them salary cap relief. The NBA trade landscape is not completely determined by which player is better. You have to consider the salary cap and how much each player is earning relative to their play on the court. We are in a recession and the NBA just lost a huge amount of revenue. I'm sure you already knew this though. CP3 is earning twice as much as guys who will probably produce just as much as he will next year. 41 million then 44 million. absolutely brutal in a salary cap that is likely to go down. You also completely neglected to consider the talent that OKC already has. That is 3 point guards that make 61 million dollars between CP3, Schroeder and Gilgeous-Alexander. it doesnt really make sense to pay 3 point guards.

Look I'm open to hearing different viewpoints. But wow if you can convince anyone that a 35 yr old declining point guard who already misses 15-20 games per year is going to be worth over 40 million per year than that is a monumental achievement. Now if you do pull that off then try convincing an actual NBA GM, good luck with that. oh and for some reason I thought Schroeder was making more than Randle. nevermind they wouldnt save any money

[prophet_of_rage]

The Knicks?

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[Clyde_Style]

only trade out there, that maybe we could do, would be for another expiring contract of an even worse player. it would be smart to do it just to get out of the little guaranteed money in year 3. we're not gonna re-sign him so it's pointless to keep him here.

Just say Batum. It's less keystrokes.

Less Keystrokes?


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[Jeff Van Gully]

Utah would be the best fit. Their whole offense is built around getting players in position to catch the ball going downhill, this is what Randle is best at. he would actually help Utah.

Randle for Conley + asset makes sense.

Utah is not going to be giving us Conley and an Asset for Randle. They are also a good team and looking to advance to the next round in the playoffs. Conley is good for them in win-now mode and his 38% from 3 is important to that team.

If they were getting beat badly I could see them thinking about it but definitely not in their current situation.

randle is more of a cap problem than conley is. conley's got a 20-21 player option and that's it. randle's got a partial guarantee for 21-22... and conley is helping them compete. makes no sense... let alone to think they'd pay for the privilege.

[MaseInYourFace]

I will do CP3 for Randle if OKC throws in assets.

Randle + future 2nd round pick for Schroeder is a good deal too if OKC wants to hold on to CP3(doubt it)

I think you are way off on the direction of OKC. They are winning now and in no rush to move those guys.

This is a 5 seed in the west and right now 2-2 with Rockets.


If anything they would want assets from us to do the trade. And we should not be giving assets for CP3 so this is NGTH

No offense and I am saying this in the nicest possible way but you are completely way off on value

The entire point of a trade with OKC is to give them salary cap relief. The NBA trade landscape is not completely determined by which player is better. You have to consider the salary cap and how much each player is earning relative to their play on the court. We are in a recession and the NBA just lost a huge amount of revenue. I'm sure you already knew this though. CP3 is earning twice as much as guys who will probably produce just as much as he will next year. 41 million then 44 million. absolutely brutal in a salary cap that is likely to go down. You also completely neglected to consider the talent that OKC already has. That is 3 point guards that make 61 million dollars between CP3, Schroeder and Gilgeous-Alexander. it doesnt really make sense to pay 3 point guards.

Look I'm open to hearing different viewpoints. But wow if you can convince anyone that a 35 yr old declining point guard who already misses 15-20 games per year is going to be worth over 40 million per year than that is a monumental achievement. Now if you do pull that off then try convincing an actual NBA GM, good luck with that. oh and for some reason I thought Schroeder was making more than Randle. nevermind they wouldnt save any money

I mean tbf OKC took on Paul so I'm sure they did a cost-risk and thought it was worth it. Looking at current results it can be argued it was a good move for them considering they don't have a lot of free agency options.

I don't really consider Schroeder a point btw. He's really more of a combo or straight up small 2.

[MaseInYourFace]

Utah would be the best fit. Their whole offense is built around getting players in position to catch the ball going downhill, this is what Randle is best at. he would actually help Utah.

Randle for Conley + asset makes sense.

Utah is not going to be giving us Conley and an Asset for Randle. They are also a good team and looking to advance to the next round in the playoffs. Conley is good for them in win-now mode and his 38% from 3 is important to that team.

If they were getting beat badly I could see them thinking about it but definitely not in their current situation.

randle is more of a cap problem than conley is. conley's got a 20-21 player option and that's it. randle's got a partial guarantee for 21-22... and conley is helping them compete. makes no sense... let alone to think they'd pay for the privilege.

How much is Randle's third year guarantee again?

[Jeff Van Gully]

I will do CP3 for Randle if OKC throws in assets.

Randle + future 2nd round pick for Schroeder is a good deal too if OKC wants to hold on to CP3(doubt it)

I think you are way off on the direction of OKC. They are winning now and in no rush to move those guys.

This is a 5 seed in the west and right now 2-2 with Rockets.


If anything they would want assets from us to do the trade. And we should not be giving assets for CP3 so this is NGTH

No offense and I am saying this in the nicest possible way but you are completely way off on value

The entire point of a trade with OKC is to give them salary cap relief. The NBA trade landscape is not completely determined by which player is better. You have to consider the salary cap and how much each player is earning relative to their play on the court. We are in a recession and the NBA just lost a huge amount of revenue. I'm sure you already knew this though. CP3 is earning twice as much as guys who will probably produce just as much as he will next year. 41 million then 44 million. absolutely brutal in a salary cap that is likely to go down. You also completely neglected to consider the talent that OKC already has. That is 3 point guards that make 61 million dollars between CP3, Schroeder and Gilgeous-Alexander. it doesnt really make sense to pay 3 point guards.

Look I'm open to hearing different viewpoints. But wow if you can convince anyone that a 35 yr old declining point guard who already misses 15-20 games per year is going to be worth over 40 million per year than that is a monumental achievement. Now if you do pull that off then try convincing an actual NBA GM, good luck with that. oh and for some reason I thought Schroeder was making more than Randle. nevermind they wouldnt save any money

yeah, i can see OKC wanting to find a way out of that $45m 21-22 hit. sheesh. that's only built for cuban linx owners. that's something a team needs to pay for. otherwise, let them take that luxury tax to the face.

if you're the knicks, you then have to run with budget contracts only if you are hoping to land a FA in 2021. pretty risky play.

the other side of that is OKC can be cheap outside of paul too. they can let gallo walk and stay out of the tax. then let adams and schroeder walk. they'll be less competitive, but they won't be bleeding cash. in which case, they might be onto another rebuild around SGA. trading paul could accelerate that.