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Around the NBA - LA or Miami: Who you got?

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LA or Miami

Poll ended at Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:21 am

Miami
15
20%
Not LA
10
13%
Whatever team has Jimmy Butler
11
14%
Whatever team does not have Lebron
10
13%
Lebron is not the GOAT
11
14%
Confused Knicks fan still hoping AD will sign with NYK
7
9%
Confused Knicks fan that would reject AD even if he wanted to sign with NYK
3
4%
Lebron Bandwagoner --- You can't stop me from voting for LA
9
12%
 
Total votes: 76

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Re: LA or Miami: Who you got? 

Post#41 » by KNIXFAN_83 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:43 am

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RHODEY wrote:
He's up there......but Jordan is greatest individual athlete in team basketball IMO.


Thats fine and think this debate has definitely evolved. There’s no longer a gap. It’s more of a preference between two different forms of greatness. 9 finals in 10 years 3 teams 2 conferences is arguably the most impressive accomplishment ever.

I think there definitely is a gap

MJ never had a series as bad as LeBron had in 2011. That's really the only thing separating them at this point

I never bought the Finals record argument, cause like half of them were LeBron carrying a team that had no business making it there only to get destroyed by the much better team, and I'm more impressed by him making it than if he were to have lost in the first round, something he still has never done in his career

MJ never lost when his team was supposed to win. You could argue in 95 his team should've won and he lost, but he played amazing that series, his team just let him down.




All facts but he’s also 1-9 in the playoffs minus Scottie, 1-3 vs isiah 0-2 vs Bird and lost in the first round 3 times. So yes maybe he was never as bad as bron in that series but bron has shown individual dominance in areas mike didnt. That’s why i feel there is no longer a gap. Mike had to “recharge” after only 3 straight chips in an era with the scrutiny was no where close to today with social media. So i get it we all feel different that’s why this series and how bron performs can elevate him to a status unseen.
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Re: LA or Miami: Who you got? 

Post#42 » by SmoothLefty21 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:03 am

Lakers in 6. LeBron is still the best player on the planet by a decent margin. He's not losing to the Heat. Beyond that, it comes down to Bam vs AD. Bam pretty much has to be AD's equal in this series. He's such a key piece to what they do but moving from Theis to AD is quite the matchup gap.
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Re: LA or Miami: Who you got? 

Post#43 » by RHODEY » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:05 am

KNIXFAN_83 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
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Thats fine and think this debate has definitely evolved. There’s no longer a gap. It’s more of a preference between two different forms of greatness. 9 finals in 10 years 3 teams 2 conferences is arguably the most impressive accomplishment ever.

I think there definitely is a gap

MJ never had a series as bad as LeBron had in 2011. That's really the only thing separating them at this point

I never bought the Finals record argument, cause like half of them were LeBron carrying a team that had no business making it there only to get destroyed by the much better team, and I'm more impressed by him making it than if he were to have lost in the first round, something he still has never done in his career

MJ never lost when his team was supposed to win. You could argue in 95 his team should've won and he lost, but he played amazing that series, his team just let him down.




All facts but he’s also 1-9 in the playoffs minus Scottie, 1-3 vs isiah 0-2 vs Bird and lost in the first round 3 times. So yes maybe he was never as bad as bron in that series but bron has shown individual dominance in areas mike didnt. That’s why i feel there is no longer a gap. Mike had to “recharge” after only 3 straight chips in an era with the scrutiny was no where close to today with social media. So i get it we all feel different that’s why this series and how bron performs can elevate him to a status unseen.


Jordan was more prolific, just more rings and way more clutch ...and when I say clutch meaning , he didn't need Ray Allen or Kyrie to bail him out. HE was the bailout - ALWAYS. He also didn't need the luck of players technical fouling themselves out of critical games. He also usually went through the toughest path to win -except that year (97?)when the Knicks were shafted. No disrespect to Lebron but Jordan was just on another level IMO.
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Post#44 » by RHODEY » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:07 am

SmoothLefty21 wrote:Lakers in 6. LeBron is still the best player on the planet by a decent margin. He's not losing to the Heat. Beyond that, it comes down to Bam vs AD. Bam pretty much has to be AD's equal in this series. He's such a key piece to what they do but moving from Theis to AD is quite the matchup gap.


Have the guns and the defense. They are almost an entire team of shot makers. Lakers will have their hands full.
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Post#45 » by adjacent2bench » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:24 am

Lebron can get away with murder on both ends. For that reason I say Lakers in 6.
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Re: LA or Miami: Who you got? 

Post#46 » by Montmorencie » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:47 am

Apart from the OKC finals and we all know that Thunder had two soft chokers in the team in Durant and Harden and one stupid kamikaze in Russ, Lebron never won a final conveniently.

At the end of the day Lakers will have 1 or 2 blowouts wins, Heat will have 1-2 blowout wins and there will be 2-3 close games decided between Jimmy and LeBron and my money is on the Heat and the Jimbo.

LeBron's ego won't allow AD to be the primary option and win the MVP. And that's the reason they will lose. Bam is a star but he is practically the lesser version of AD in anything but the heart. Bam is not soft. But he is worse in anything else.
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Post#47 » by knicks94 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:26 pm

If the Lakers lose this series I will be convinced that the NBA isn't rigged.
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Post#48 » by Stannis » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:06 pm

I think this poll ruined my brain lol
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Post#49 » by Ursusamericanus » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:55 pm

Out of curiosity since I get the feeling a lot of you are more anti-LeBron than you are anti-Heat/Riley: why? Has everyone moved on from the late 90s rivalry? Or how Riley departed in 1995?

Or is it just that you dislike LeBron more than the Heat? It's interesting, I'm one of the only Knicks fans I know who actually likes LeBron. Rooting for him has been a nice respite from our perpetual tragic comedy.
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Post#50 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:53 am

Stannis wrote:I think this poll ruined my brain lol


Why :O I thought it was designed well
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Post#51 » by DowNY » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:49 am

LA does it for Kobe
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Post#52 » by Context » Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:41 pm

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Stannis wrote:I think this poll ruined my brain lol


Why :O I thought it was designed well


how could you design it well when you didnt have a simple option for those that have believed in Lebron
from the beginning of his career or those that are not bandwagon and just follow basketball and believe the lakers would win?
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Post#53 » by dakomish23 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:01 pm

Is this the official Finals thread?
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor


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Post#54 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:12 pm

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Post#55 » by god shammgod » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:24 pm

DowNY wrote:LA does it for Kobe


jordan farmar could have died instead and they'd still beat miami
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Post#56 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:32 pm

That sweep will quick and painless. Nobody will notice the Finals even took place.
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Post#57 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:34 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:That sweep will quick and painless. Nobody will notice the Finals even took place.

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Post#58 » by Besart19 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:39 pm

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Post#59 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:41 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:That sweep will quick and painless. Nobody will notice the Finals even took place.

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Re: LA or Miami: Who you got? 

Post#60 » by robillionaire » Thu Oct 1, 2020 12:01 am

Montmorencie wrote:Apart from the OKC finals and we all know that Thunder had two soft chokers in the team in Durant and Harden and one stupid kamikaze in Russ, Lebron never won a final conveniently.

At the end of the day Lakers will have 1 or 2 blowouts wins, Heat will have 1-2 blowout wins and there will be 2-3 close games decided between Jimmy and LeBron and my money is on the Heat and the Jimbo.

LeBron's ego won't allow AD to be the primary option and win the MVP. And that's the reason they will lose. Bam is a star but he is practically the lesser version of AD in anything but the heart. Bam is not soft. But he is worse in anything else.


Schrodinger's Anthony Davis, soft and unclutch but lebron must defer to him to win the championship :lol:

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