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2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT)

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT) 

Post#41 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:48 pm

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Zenzibar wrote:Just saw this on RealGM GSW thread. Interesting that Edwards is starting to be questioned and may wind up dropping after all.


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Man, it could be that AntMan is dropping because he chose not to participate in the combine interviews. It could be he is similar to Dion Waiters because he hasn't won anything and forgets plays and actions per Jonathan Wasserman of B/R. Dion Waiters could now be his floor :( .

"... executives from different clubs are concerned about Edwards’ commitment to winning:

Scouts and executives have mentioned that his teams haven’t won at any level and that he even forgets plays and actions. Despite media projections and upside that everyone acknowledges, he has a shaky reputation within NBA circles. Dion Waiters has been used by skeptics as a comparison or low-end outcome for Edwards, an inefficient scorer at Georgia whose Bulldogs finished 13 of 14 teams in the SEC."

https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2020/9/30/21494654/warriors-2020-nba-draft-conern-about-edwards

Wasserman previous had Anthony Edwards going #1 in his mock draft.

BTW, why isn't Onyeka Okongwu not mentioned by those who want a big man? It sounds to me Wiseman fans are basing it on strictly measurements.

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Listen to this Edwards interview with Mike Schmitz all the way through. The notion that he's not bright and just ad libs should be quickly dismissed.

Folks need to stop just buying into everything they hear. All you need is one mouthpiece online to say something and everyone freaking buys into it hook line and sinker instead of actually doing some digging and watching yourself. It's a sign of a lazy weak mind.



He's extremely sharp. He recognizes what he needs to do very quickly. Whether he will? Who knows, but it's not for lack of awareness or understanding.

If he falls' to 8 I'd cream my pants. Get him with Thibs (or a similar coach) and you can have one heck of a player. But, he won't, so my pants and drawers are safe. :lol:

In general, that's a fan piece. It's a fan writing an article with his opinion, not some expert. Most casual fans (and armchair experts) still think that Okongwu is a 6'9" center that just defends and dunks when, as I've said repeatedly, he's so much more than just that if folks actually take the time to watch him play and think. That's why.


Teams might even be leaking on purpose to influence draft rankings and facilitate trades.

That said... my gosh, Anthony Edwards is an awful player! Low IQ! Definitely would not draft him if he was there at 8!
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT) 

Post#42 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:49 pm

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Yep my PG choice we dont get Hayes or Kira. I hope he's there @27.

Glad to see people finally on the Malachi Flynn bandwagon. Another guy you should check out is Payton Pritchard


He's seems to have a blend of Cole's "dog" and Tryrell Terry's skill set I really really am fully on this bandwagon. He may soon pass Kira on my list :oops:

I like him a lot but he seems like a backup pg to me. I can’t put him above Kira or Hayes
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT) 

Post#43 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:49 pm

Ricky g is saying we’re progressing on a deal with gsw for Lamelo if he falls to 2.....
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Post#44 » by robillionaire » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:51 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:Ricky g is saying we’re progressing on a deal with gsw for Lamelo if he falls to 2.....


Woooooo lamelo ball folks
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT) 

Post#45 » by RHODEY » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:52 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Glad to see people finally on the Malachi Flynn bandwagon. Another guy you should check out is Payton Pritchard


He's seems to have a blend of Cole's "dog" and Tryrell Terry's skill set I really really am fully on this bandwagon. He may soon pass Kira on my list :oops:

I like him a lot but he seems like a backup pg to me. I can’t put him above Kira or Hayes


Defineily not above Hayes, but his PG skills are starter elvel .


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT) 

Post#46 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:13 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:Ricky g is saying we’re progressing on a deal with gsw for Lamelo if he falls to 2.....


who?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT) 

Post#47 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:17 pm

RHODEY wrote:
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He's seems to have a blend of Cole's "dog" and Tryrell Terry's skill set I really really am fully on this bandwagon. He may soon pass Kira on my list :oops:

I like him a lot but he seems like a backup pg to me. I can’t put him above Kira or Hayes


Defineily not above Hayes, but his PG skills are starter elvel .



Yeah he does have starter potential.

Give me one of Pritchard, Flynn or Karim Mane with our 2nd rounders. These PG's can be steals imo.
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Post#48 » by Gravy » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:17 pm

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Gravy wrote:Are there stats for top ranked high school players who fell in draft status during their freshman year in college and how they did in the NBA? Its hard to remember who they were but it seems like they dont do so well. There's this article from 2016:

http://www.thesportsfanjournal.com/columns/the-silver-fox/ten-year-history-of-top-ranked-rivals-basketball-players/

2007 No. 1 Ranked Player: Michael Beasley
2008 No. 1 Ranked Player: B.J. Mullens
2009 No. 1 Ranked Player: John Wall
2010 No. 1 Ranked Player: Josh Selby
2011 No. 1 Ranked Player: Austin Rivers
2012 No. 1 Ranked Player: Shabazz Muhammad
2013 No. 1 Ranked Player: Andrew Wiggins
2014 No. 1 Ranked Player: Jahlil Okafor
2015 No. 1 Ranked Player: Skal Labissiere
2016 No. 1 Ranked Player: Josh Jackson

2017 Marvin Bagley
2018 RJ Barrett

I had high hopes for Skal Labissiere...
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:lol: his scouting report has some scary familiar quotes to knox
Must develop into more of a killer and learn to flip the switch from his nice-guy-off-the-floor personality … Seemed to lack the intensity and energy to succeed when he entered games .Floated through possessions and games … Too often would get lost on the court … Didn’t do much to stand out when he wasn’t involved regularly in the offense … Doesn’t seem to understand how to fully utilize his athleticism, and is hesitant to explode with aggression around the rim
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Post#49 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:20 pm

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TheGreenArrow wrote:Ricky g is saying we’re progressing on a deal with gsw for Lamelo if he falls to 2.....


who?


Some dude on twitter, even though he’s followed by a lot of legit people(Ian Begley etc) I’m taking it with a grain of salt.
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Post#50 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:27 pm

Gravy wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Gravy wrote:Are there stats for top ranked high school players who fell in draft status during their freshman year in college and how they did in the NBA? Its hard to remember who they were but it seems like they dont do so well. There's this article from 2016:

http://www.thesportsfanjournal.com/columns/the-silver-fox/ten-year-history-of-top-ranked-rivals-basketball-players/

2007 No. 1 Ranked Player: Michael Beasley
2008 No. 1 Ranked Player: B.J. Mullens
2009 No. 1 Ranked Player: John Wall
2010 No. 1 Ranked Player: Josh Selby
2011 No. 1 Ranked Player: Austin Rivers
2012 No. 1 Ranked Player: Shabazz Muhammad
2013 No. 1 Ranked Player: Andrew Wiggins
2014 No. 1 Ranked Player: Jahlil Okafor
2015 No. 1 Ranked Player: Skal Labissiere
2016 No. 1 Ranked Player: Josh Jackson

2017 Marvin Bagley
2018 RJ Barrett

I had high hopes for Skal Labissiere...
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:lol: his scouting report has some scary familiar quotes to knox
Must develop into more of a killer and learn to flip the switch from his nice-guy-off-the-floor personality … Seemed to lack the intensity and energy to succeed when he entered games .Floated through possessions and games … Too often would get lost on the court … Didn’t do much to stand out when he wasn’t involved regularly in the offense … Doesn’t seem to understand how to fully utilize his athleticism, and is hesitant to explode with aggression around the rim

He actually has talent and skills unlike Knox. They share the same mentality though. Skal has one of the prettiest jumpers for a big man. Such a high release on it.. AD like. Can literally shoot over anyone. It sucks he never put it all together
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Post#51 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:29 pm

Skal is about to be a free agent.. fk it lets go after him and see if his guy Kenny Payne can get him right (Skal played in UK under Payne)
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Post#52 » by Juco24 » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:46 pm

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TheGreenArrow wrote:Ricky g is saying we’re progressing on a deal with gsw for Lamelo if he falls to 2.....


who?


Yeah... he's saying Mitch + 8 for #2
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Post#53 » by mpharris36 » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:49 pm

he's also spelling LaMelo's name wrong...so I don't believe him :lol:
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Post#54 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Oct 8, 2020 8:51 pm

mpharris36 wrote:he's also spelling LaMelo's name wrong...so I don't believe him :lol:


as credible as our boy Robert Randolph
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Post#55 » by DaGawd » Thu Oct 8, 2020 9:28 pm

I kinda wanna see Mitch win a chip with the Warriors...
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Post#56 » by DaGawd » Thu Oct 8, 2020 9:36 pm

If we do end up trading Mitch to move up to 2 it better be to take Wiseman... You still need a quality big in today's NBA
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Post#57 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Oct 8, 2020 9:37 pm

DaGawd wrote:I kinda wanna see Mitch win a chip with the Warriors...



Just go look at the 2017 and 2018 title clips, JaVale is a 2x champ.



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Post#58 » by robillionaire » Thu Oct 8, 2020 9:39 pm

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DaGawd wrote:I kinda wanna see Mitch win a chip with the Warriors...



Just go look at the 2017 and 2018 title clips, JaVale is a 2x champ.



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Post#59 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Oct 8, 2020 9:57 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
DaGawd wrote:I kinda wanna see Mitch win a chip with the Warriors...



Just go look at the 2017 and 2018 title clips, JaVale is a 2x champ.



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Post#60 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 8, 2020 10:24 pm

robillionaire wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:Ricky g is saying we’re progressing on a deal with gsw for Lamelo if he falls to 2.....


Woooooo lamelo ball folks


That'd be wild. Hope he's really good!
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