Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[NYF13]

Wall + 2nd pick for 19, 21 and 32.
OR
Beal or Towns for 19, 21, 32 and NYK 2023 and DAL 2023 picks.
OR
Buddy Hield + 9th pick for Ntilikina + 19, 21 and 32.
OR
Myles Turner for pick 21 and 32.
AND
Sign Lonzo outright without handing any asset.

[knickstape4ever]

Wall + 2nd pick for 19, 21 and 32.
OR
Beal or Towns for 19, 21, 32 and NYK 2023 and DAL 2023 picks.
OR
Buddy Hield + 9th pick for Ntilikina + 19, 21 and 32.
OR
Myles Turner for pick 21 and 32.
AND
Sign Lonzo outright without handing any asset.

-Rockets aren't trading #2 just to dump wall and get some late picks back. #2 warrants a good player in return

-Wizards and Wolves aren't trading those guys for scraps/other teams could easily outbid that

-Can't trade Frank, his contract is up (can S&T tho). I actually wouldn't do that deal. Maybe Hield + #9 for 1 of those picks, but not all 3

-I like Myles Turner. he's the ideal C: rim-protector that can shoot the 3

-I'm hoping we can get Lonzo w/o the Pelicans matching or asking for big return. his best years are ahead of him

[Davis18]

Randle & 21st for Wall & 2nd pick?

[knickstape4ever]

Randle & 21st for Wall & 2nd pick?

yep, I'd do it

Randle was incredible this past season but he's not a #1 option

Jalen Green can be a #1 and he fits the timeline better w/ RJ, IQ, Obi, Mitch

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Ummmmm huh? I would never give that much up for C.Sexton. People have to remember that he's a player that was given free reign to do what he wants on a bad team and have no idea how good or bad he'd be on a good team. He's just another SG in a PG's body.

Here's the thing, Sexton was given free reign to do whatever he wanted and he stayed an efficient scorer. It would be 1 thing if he were just a chucker posting these numbers, but he's at 57% TS this year. He needs a lot of refinement to his game and he is a small SG, but you play him next to a big PG or have a lineup where you have other playmakers on the court with him so that on defense he can still just guard the opposing PG. That is what it comes down to, can you build your lineup so he just has to guard the opposing PG.

He's like a more offensively gifted Terry Rozier.

So build the team around C.Sexton? Ummmmmmm no.

Saying he's T.Rozier doesn't change things for me, and is who i would of compared him to anyway, and is another SG that i wouldn't want as my starting PG.

Shoot T.Mann or J.Butler could be as good and probably better than C.Sexton is and we might be able to get either of them at 19 or 21 and they could actually play PG.

Bro, where did I say build around Sexton? We currently run our offense through a PF, how exactly would Sexton get in the way of that or even change what we do. You acquire talent, you let RJ & Randle run the offense more and use Sexton in the halfcourt, he's one of the best mid-range shooters in the league

Rozier is playing as a 2 guard on the Hornets, he's not a PG, they run offense through LaMelo and Hayward. They let Rozier guard the PG and be their 2nd scorer while LaMelo and Hayward run the offense, why is it hard for you to see that we could do the same with Sexton? And it wouldn't stop us from looking for a PG with size in the future.

If we have a chance to get a talented young guard we should get him, your assumption that Mann or Butler will be better than Sexton is crazy too. He's a 24ppg scorer on 57% TS right now, there's no mystery to that, he can put the ball in the basket right now while you hope those guys can do it. Good luck with the idea that Thibs is going to let a 20 year old run our offense too

[Juco24]

Kyrie irving anyone?

[Davis18]

Kyrie irving anyone?

For 32nd pick?
Why not.

[blanko]

https://clutchpoints.com/2-trades-the-knicks-could-make-in-the-2021-nba-draft/

Buddy and 9 for all of the knicks picks and frank/knox .

This will be a salary dump for sac. They will still get multiple 1st rounders and get off buddy's contract.

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[Celo]

Wall + 2nd pick for 19, 21 and 32.
OR
Beal or Towns for 19, 21, 32 and NYK 2023 and DAL 2023 picks.
OR
Buddy Hield + 9th pick for Ntilikina + 19, 21 and 32.
OR
Myles Turner for pick 21 and 32.
AND
Sign Lonzo outright without handing any asset.

-Rockets aren't trading #2 just to dump wall and get some late picks back. #2 warrants a good player in return

-Wizards and Wolves aren't trading those guys for scraps/other teams could easily outbid that

-Can't trade Frank, his contract is up (can S&T tho). I actually wouldn't do that deal. Maybe Hield + #9 for 1 of those picks, but not all 3

-I like Myles Turner. he's the ideal C: rim-protector that can shoot the 3

-I'm hoping we can get Lonzo w/o the Pelicans matching or asking for big return. his best years are ahead of him

Can we please stop telling the myth that Turner can shoot 3s? He shot 33% on more than 4 attempts. Hitting a 3 every once in a while ≠ being able to shoot 3s. I mean think back to our games against the Pacers this season. We literally dared him to shoot the 3 against us. In those 3 games he averaged 7 3PA per game while hitting them at a 17% clip

You don't need a 3 ball to be a valuable playoff center, see Ayton. Just invest in Mitchs development, have KP work with him all summer on some basic post moves to punish switches and we're good to go on the 5 position.

Depending on how the draft shakes out, I'm not trading up or out (other then for a star, but doubt one will be available), but rather take as many shots at wings as we can, since that's the department we're lacking quality mightily. I'm not forgetting about the PG problem btw, Just doubting that it can be fixed via the draft - except you believe in Sharife.

[3toheadmelo]

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[thebuzzardman]

Trade Randle before he becomes a 38 million dollar albatross after next season.

[3toheadmelo]

Wall + 2nd pick for 19, 21 and 32.
OR
Beal or Towns for 19, 21, 32 and NYK 2023 and DAL 2023 picks.
OR
Buddy Hield + 9th pick for Ntilikina + 19, 21 and 32.
OR
Myles Turner for pick 21 and 32.
AND
Sign Lonzo outright without handing any asset.

-Rockets aren't trading #2 just to dump wall and get some late picks back. #2 warrants a good player in return

-Wizards and Wolves aren't trading those guys for scraps/other teams could easily outbid that

-Can't trade Frank, his contract is up (can S&T tho). I actually wouldn't do that deal. Maybe Hield + #9 for 1 of those picks, but not all 3

-I like Myles Turner. he's the ideal C: rim-protector that can shoot the 3

-I'm hoping we can get Lonzo w/o the Pelicans matching or asking for big return. his best years are ahead of him

Can we please stop telling the myth that Turner can shoot 3s? He shot 33% on more than 4 attempts. Hitting a 3 every once in a while ≠ being able to shoot 3s. I mean think back to our games against the Pacers this season. We literally dared him to shoot the 3 against us. In those 3 games he averaged 7 3PA per game while hitting them at a 17% clip

You don't need a 3 ball to be a valuable playoff center, see Ayton. Just invest in Mitchs development, have KP work with him all summer on some basic post moves to punish switches and we're good to go on the 5 position.

Depending on how the draft shakes out, I'm not trading up or out (other then for a star, but doubt one will be available), but rather take as many shots at wings as we can, since that's the department we're lacking quality mightily. I'm not forgetting about the PG problem btw, Just doubting that it can be fixed via the draft - except you believe in Sharife.

Ayton is pretty polished on the offensive end while Mitch is a complete zero on offense though. Ayton is hitting mid range jumpers, post hooks, taking players off the dribble.. etc. I don’t see mitch developing any moves at this time in his career. He’s about to enter his 4th year and he’s still the same exact player he was as a rookie on offense. His free throws actually got much worse too. Chances are slim he develops offensively. He’s basically a better defending Capela

[Celo]

-Rockets aren't trading #2 just to dump wall and get some late picks back. #2 warrants a good player in return

-Wizards and Wolves aren't trading those guys for scraps/other teams could easily outbid that

-Can't trade Frank, his contract is up (can S&T tho). I actually wouldn't do that deal. Maybe Hield + #9 for 1 of those picks, but not all 3

-I like Myles Turner. he's the ideal C: rim-protector that can shoot the 3

-I'm hoping we can get Lonzo w/o the Pelicans matching or asking for big return. his best years are ahead of him

Can we please stop telling the myth that Turner can shoot 3s? He shot 33% on more than 4 attempts. Hitting a 3 every once in a while ≠ being able to shoot 3s. I mean think back to our games against the Pacers this season. We literally dared him to shoot the 3 against us. In those 3 games he averaged 7 3PA per game while hitting them at a 17% clip

You don't need a 3 ball to be a valuable playoff center, see Ayton. Just invest in Mitchs development, have KP work with him all summer on some basic post moves to punish switches and we're good to go on the 5 position.

Depending on how the draft shakes out, I'm not trading up or out (other then for a star, but doubt one will be available), but rather take as many shots at wings as we can, since that's the department we're lacking quality mightily. I'm not forgetting about the PG problem btw, Just doubting that it can be fixed via the draft - except you believe in Sharife.

Ayton is pretty polished on the offensive end while Mitch is a complete zero on offense though. Ayton is hitting mid range jumpers, post hooks, taking players off the dribble.. etc. I don’t see mitch developing any moves at this time in his career. He’s about to enter his 4th year and he’s still the same exact player he was as a rookie on offense. His free throws actually got much worse too. Chances are slim he develops offensively. He’s basically a better defending Capela

Didn't mean to suggest he could become as good as Ayton on the offensive end. He doesn't need to become that good, tho obviously the better he'd became the more valuable he'd be. And while I'm with you that Mitch's a near zero right now, I do have confidence that he may develop enough of an offensive game to not be a liability like Gobert has been. Why? Think about that: he didn't go to college plus our previous coaching staffs have not been known for player development tbh. (Also he's been on multiple agants, who knows how that has affected his off season focus, but that's just speculation on my side).

So this is the first year, where Mitch has the (perfect?) circumstances to work on his game, especially on the offensive end. I know this sounds like excuse making, and Mitch definitely has to be blamed, too. But personally, I think he already brings quite a lot to the table as a defensive presence/roll man/offensive rebounder, and that's why we shouldn't close the book on a 23 year old.

[3toheadmelo]

Can we please stop telling the myth that Turner can shoot 3s? He shot 33% on more than 4 attempts. Hitting a 3 every once in a while ≠ being able to shoot 3s. I mean think back to our games against the Pacers this season. We literally dared him to shoot the 3 against us. In those 3 games he averaged 7 3PA per game while hitting them at a 17% clip

You don't need a 3 ball to be a valuable playoff center, see Ayton. Just invest in Mitchs development, have KP work with him all summer on some basic post moves to punish switches and we're good to go on the 5 position.

Depending on how the draft shakes out, I'm not trading up or out (other then for a star, but doubt one will be available), but rather take as many shots at wings as we can, since that's the department we're lacking quality mightily. I'm not forgetting about the PG problem btw, Just doubting that it can be fixed via the draft - except you believe in Sharife.

Ayton is pretty polished on the offensive end while Mitch is a complete zero on offense though. Ayton is hitting mid range jumpers, post hooks, taking players off the dribble.. etc. I don’t see mitch developing any moves at this time in his career. He’s about to enter his 4th year and he’s still the same exact player he was as a rookie on offense. His free throws actually got much worse too. Chances are slim he develops offensively. He’s basically a better defending Capela

Didn't mean to suggest he could become as good as Ayton on the offensive end. He doesn't need to become that good, tho obviously the better he'd became the more valuable he'd be. And while I'm with you that Mitch's a near zero right now, I do have confidence that he may develop enough of an offensive game to not be a liability like Gobert has been. Why? Think about that: he didn't go to college plus our previous coaching staffs have not been known for player development tbh. (Also he's been on multiple agants, who knows how that has affected his off season focus, but that's just speculation on my side).

So this is the first year, where Mitch has the (perfect?) circumstances to work on his game, especially on the offensive end. I know this sounds like excuse making, and Mitch definitely has to be blamed, too. But personally, I think he already brings quite a lot to the table as a defensive presence/roll man/offensive rebounder, and that's why we shouldn't close the book on a 23 year old.

I’m not desperate to move Mitch cause I know what he brings to the table but it is a bit disappointing that he has made zero improvements on offense. If the Knicks wanted to replace him with a big that can defend and score I wouldn’t mind it at all at this point. If he’s here next season I hope he shows off some type of offense

[Celo]

Ayton is pretty polished on the offensive end while Mitch is a complete zero on offense though. Ayton is hitting mid range jumpers, post hooks, taking players off the dribble.. etc. I don’t see mitch developing any moves at this time in his career. He’s about to enter his 4th year and he’s still the same exact player he was as a rookie on offense. His free throws actually got much worse too. Chances are slim he develops offensively. He’s basically a better defending Capela

Didn't mean to suggest he could become as good as Ayton on the offensive end. He doesn't need to become that good, tho obviously the better he'd became the more valuable he'd be. And while I'm with you that Mitch's a near zero right now, I do have confidence that he may develop enough of an offensive game to not be a liability like Gobert has been. Why? Think about that: he didn't go to college plus our previous coaching staffs have not been known for player development tbh. (Also he's been on multiple agants, who knows how that has affected his off season focus, but that's just speculation on my side).

So this is the first year, where Mitch has the (perfect?) circumstances to work on his game, especially on the offensive end. I know this sounds like excuse making, and Mitch definitely has to be blamed, too. But personally, I think he already brings quite a lot to the table as a defensive presence/roll man/offensive rebounder, and that's why we shouldn't close the book on a 23 year old.

I’m not desperate to move Mitch cause I know what he brings to the table but it is a bit disappointing that he has made zero improvements on offense. If the Knicks wanted to replace him with a big that can defend and score I wouldn’t mind it at all at this point. If he’s here next season I hope he shows off some type of offense

Totally agree! The lack of offensive development has been disappointing. And in the right deal, I may consider moving him, too. I just don't think that Turner is the answer. But let's see what the draft brings first. I'm against drafting a big tbh, but you've mentioned Kai Jones in the other thread, and I'd lie if I said he doesn't look intriguing. He's a major project tho. I wonder how much Thibs'll have to say about our draft choice(s).

[TBri1974]

Trade Randle before he becomes a 38 million dollar albatross after next season.

Randle has personified what you want out of a player and a team and helped bring NY back; trading him would be a PR nightmare. But just for the sake of discussion - what do you actually think you could get for Randle?

[god shammgod]

Ayton is pretty polished on the offensive end while Mitch is a complete zero on offense though. Ayton is hitting mid range jumpers, post hooks, taking players off the dribble.. etc. I don’t see mitch developing any moves at this time in his career. He’s about to enter his 4th year and he’s still the same exact player he was as a rookie on offense. His free throws actually got much worse too. Chances are slim he develops offensively. He’s basically a better defending Capela

Didn't mean to suggest he could become as good as Ayton on the offensive end. He doesn't need to become that good, tho obviously the better he'd became the more valuable he'd be. And while I'm with you that Mitch's a near zero right now, I do have confidence that he may develop enough of an offensive game to not be a liability like Gobert has been. Why? Think about that: he didn't go to college plus our previous coaching staffs have not been known for player development tbh. (Also he's been on multiple agants, who knows how that has affected his off season focus, but that's just speculation on my side).

So this is the first year, where Mitch has the (perfect?) circumstances to work on his game, especially on the offensive end. I know this sounds like excuse making, and Mitch definitely has to be blamed, too. But personally, I think he already brings quite a lot to the table as a defensive presence/roll man/offensive rebounder, and that's why we shouldn't close the book on a 23 year old.

I’m not desperate to move Mitch cause I know what he brings to the table but it is a bit disappointing that he has made zero improvements on offense. If the Knicks wanted to replace him with a big that can defend and score I wouldn’t mind it at all at this point. If he’s here next season I hope he shows off some type of offense

he's in ny still working with our guys. hopefully we'll see some dividends next year on the offensive end. he'll likely be getting better training than he was in his little hometown.

[thebuzzardman]

Trade Randle before he becomes a 38 million dollar albatross after next season.

Randle has personified what you want out of a player and a team and helped bring NY back; trading him would be a PR nightmare. But just for the sake of discussion - what do you actually think you could get for Randle?

a) It would be a PR nightmare, agreed
b) Not sure, not enough - I don't think enough teams want him
c) Knicks are doomed
d) Have a nice day!

[god shammgod]

Kyrie irving anyone?

For 32nd pick?
Why not.

in a second. everyone will balk but he's exactly what we need. this is likely nonsense though. they'd be afraid to do this unless durant co-signed it.

[Knicksfan1992]

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