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Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley

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IQ Vs Maxey

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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#41 » by Handledatruth » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:44 pm

They are different players. IQ's future is a PG that shoots (similar to Seth Curry on the Sixers). Maxey is more of a slashing guard. The Knicks have about 4 slashing type guards that would bury Maxey on the bench (Kemba, Fournier, Burks, DRose). IQ has a role on this team since his skillset is unique (even if he started the season cold). Now if you are comparing Burks/Fournier/Kemba to Maxey, then yes for sure I'd take him over any of those players.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#42 » by NYKnickerbocker » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:19 pm

Is his improved shot legit? Cause it sure as hell still looked off when we played the 76ers. At the end of the day I see them both being players with similar impact, just do it in different ways.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#43 » by Knicksfan1992 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:57 pm

Reign23 wrote:how on earth could you take IQ here?


-Better and more diverse shooter
-same level of passer (probably a little better in my opinion)
-Better Handle

I think the shooting is what puts it over the top for me. Maxey relies on power drives and spot up 3s to get his points. IQ was one of the better pull up shooters in the league last year as a rookie and he's starting to build off of it to expand other areas of his game. He's also a really good point of attack defender. I think IQ's game translates more to high leverage hoops more than Maxey does. If you don't give Maxey the ball he's less of a threat than IQ. IQ can function both on and off-ball as a legit offensive threat. Think this board generally underrates IQ as an offensive prospect. He has the chance to be elite on that end, especially, if he continues to drive as much as he has early on.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#44 » by moocow007 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:26 pm

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Immanuel Quickley averaged 20ppg, 5apg on 53%fg, 48%3pt in just 25.5mpg in a 3 game stretch his rookie season (from 1/13/2021 thru 1/17/2021). So while Maxey is probably the better all around player I'm not sure that a 3 game stretch is a great determinant of anything. That said, yeah Maxey clearly is looking great this season, much better than IQ. Looks like someone took IQ's shooting and rolled it into Maxey.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#45 » by WajaBawl » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:33 pm

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Immanuel Quickley averaged 20ppg, 5apg on 53%fg, 48%3pt in just 25.5mpg in a 3 game stretch his rookie season (from 1/13/2021 thru 1/17/2021). So while Maxey is probably the better all around player I'm not sure that a 3 game stretch is a great determinant of anything.


Maxey is doing it against starter level defenses while carrying the responsibilities of being the lead guard. He's been carrying them with Embiid out. While I agree that it's a small sample size, I think that speaks volumes more than a 3-game stretch against bench scrubs. The eye test has to be a factor here too.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#46 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:38 pm

Sixers refused to give up Maxey for Harden. Knicks on the other hand would not hesitate to include IQ for Harden imo. So there’s your answer. Maxey looks like a 3 level scorer who can start full time. IQ looks like a 6th man
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#47 » by Montmorencie » Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:00 pm

IQ is nice but boy he is for sure overrated.
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Post#48 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:45 am

He's seems overrated for a guy who isn't breaking 40% FG.
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Post#49 » by rajajackal » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:19 am

i love iq, and even though i think he could be a starter on this roster, i don't think he's a true starting NBA point guard until he develops a midrange shot. then he'd be extremely dangerous
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#50 » by Montmorencie » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:20 am

rajajackal wrote:i love iq, and even though i think he could be a starter on this roster, i don't think he's a true starting NBA point guard until he develops a midrange shot. then he'd be extremely dangerous


Nah, guards don't need mid range that much. He needs to start attacking the rim tho. I ever doubt he can make a lay-up, never seen him doing it.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#51 » by robillionaire » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:35 pm

Montmorencie wrote:IQ is nice but boy he is for sure overrated.


last week everyone said he was done as an nba player and wanted to bench him and now he's better than tyrese maxey, it's not that he's overrated it's just this fanbase is clinically insane on a game to game basis
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#52 » by rajajackal » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:40 pm

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rajajackal wrote:i love iq, and even though i think he could be a starter on this roster, i don't think he's a true starting NBA point guard until he develops a midrange shot. then he'd be extremely dangerous


Nah, guards don't need mid range that much. He needs to start attacking the rim tho. I ever doubt he can make a lay-up, never seen him doing it.


i basically would just prefer a midrange to half the ill advised floaters he takes
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#53 » by FlashFlood » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:08 pm

The two are very close in overall ability. IQ's wingspan is 6'10", he's a bit taller 6'3", but Maxey (6'7" wingspan, 6'2") is stronger and seems faster. Maxey was hot to start the year, 50-40-87 whereas IQ started cold 38-39-91. Max will have a ton of minutes thrown at him this year, whereas IQ will have to wait behind Kemba and Rose.

Remember that success in the NBA depends on your talent and opportunities. Gilbert Arenas rode the pine before some injuries catapulted him into an immediate all-star in Washington. Julius Randle was a throw-in for trades for the first 5 years of his league before exploding with an MVP-caliber season last year.

Maxey is being given an opportunity and he flourished. I think that IQ could do the same here eventually.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#54 » by Zenzibar » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:13 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Montmorencie wrote:IQ is nice but boy he is for sure overrated.


last week everyone said he was done as an nba player and wanted to bench him and now he's better than tyrese maxey, it's not that he's overrated it's just this fanbase is clinically insane on a game to game basis


BINGO!

Last year Maxey played limited minutes, while IQ was killing it.

This year Maxey is starting due to circumstances and getting more chances/minutes than IQ. Now Maxey is soooo much better.

This fanbase is laughable. :crazy:

Last year these same folks said Obi was a bust and now I read where someone called him handsome :lol:
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#55 » by Zenzibar » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:27 pm

WajaBawl wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
WajaBawl wrote:
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Immanuel Quickley averaged 20ppg, 5apg on 53%fg, 48%3pt in just 25.5mpg in a 3 game stretch his rookie season (from 1/13/2021 thru 1/17/2021). So while Maxey is probably the better all around player I'm not sure that a 3 game stretch is a great determinant of anything.


Maxey is doing it against starter level defenses while carrying the responsibilities of being the lead guard. He's been carrying them with Embiid out. While I agree that it's a small sample size, I think that speaks volumes more than a 3-game stretch against bench scrubs. The eye test has to be a factor here too.



Here are a couple of eye tests:

1st game:
Maxey: 30 minutes, 3-9 from 2, 0-3 from 3: -9
IQ: 15 minutes, 2-5 from 2, 1-3 from 3: +13

2nd game:
Maxey: 39 minutes, 6-19 from 2, 3-6 from 3: +5
IQ: 16 minutes, 3-4 from 2, 3-4 from 3: +9

My eye sight is no longer 20/20 but from what I can see, head to head IQ is waxing that assss.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#56 » by RHODEY » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:32 pm

moocow007 wrote:
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Immanuel Quickley averaged 20ppg, 5apg on 53%fg, 48%3pt in just 25.5mpg in a 3 game stretch his rookie season (from 1/13/2021 thru 1/17/2021). So while Maxey is probably the better all around player I'm not sure that a 3 game stretch is a great determinant of anything. That said, yeah Maxey clearly is looking great this season, much better than IQ. Looks like someone took IQ's shooting and rolled it into Maxey.



Maxey putting up good stats while the Sixers continue to slide. When IQ puts up #'s we usually win.
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#57 » by robillionaire » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:27 pm

RHODEY wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
WajaBawl wrote:
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Immanuel Quickley averaged 20ppg, 5apg on 53%fg, 48%3pt in just 25.5mpg in a 3 game stretch his rookie season (from 1/13/2021 thru 1/17/2021). So while Maxey is probably the better all around player I'm not sure that a 3 game stretch is a great determinant of anything. That said, yeah Maxey clearly is looking great this season, much better than IQ. Looks like someone took IQ's shooting and rolled it into Maxey.



Maxey putting up good stats while the Sixers continue to slide. When IQ puts up #'s we usually win.


well in fairness to Maxey they have a lot of good players out, if we started IQ but then Randle and Rose were injured I doubt we'd win all that much regardless of the numbers IQ puts up
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#58 » by RHODEY » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:38 pm

robillionaire wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Immanuel Quickley averaged 20ppg, 5apg on 53%fg, 48%3pt in just 25.5mpg in a 3 game stretch his rookie season (from 1/13/2021 thru 1/17/2021). So while Maxey is probably the better all around player I'm not sure that a 3 game stretch is a great determinant of anything. That said, yeah Maxey clearly is looking great this season, much better than IQ. Looks like someone took IQ's shooting and rolled it into Maxey.



Maxey putting up good stats while the Sixers continue to slide. When IQ puts up #'s we usually win.


well in fairness to Maxey they have a lot of good players out, if we started IQ but then Randle and Rose were injured I doubt we'd win all that much regardless of the numbers IQ puts up



Ok thats fair... but its also fair to say that Maxey's #'s wouldn't be what they are if their best players were playing. So we're back to square one. :D
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#59 » by Garbagelo » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:26 pm

for where they were drafted, I'd say it's pretty much a wash at this point in their careers

Maxey has way more potential and is 1 tier above IQ and has been since they were drafted

It's not a comparison we should make
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Re: Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley 

Post#60 » by DOT » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:30 pm

Next up:

Patrick Williams VS Obi Toppin.
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VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
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Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.

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