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The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop

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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#41 » by Gravy » Wed Mar 2, 2022 9:59 pm

We need some Jimmer Fredette and Toure Murray


"I wonder what would happen if Jimmer and Randle got the same shot as Baker?"
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#42 » by Kampuchea » Wed Mar 2, 2022 11:02 pm

KnixtapeH20 wrote:
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Knicks lost this guy for NOTHING! :banghead:

He's so fkn ass bro stop


Why IGGYs 33 points no good but McBride drops 30 and he's MJ?
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Post#43 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 2, 2022 11:05 pm

For the people that think Deuce is our savior cause of g league

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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#44 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 2, 2022 11:07 pm

Gravy wrote:We need some Jimmer Fredette and Toure Murray


"I wonder what would happen if Jimmer and Randle got the same shot as Baker?"
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Toure murry should’ve played over bum ass felton in 2014. he always looked solid whenever he played imo.
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#45 » by rayraypico » Thu Mar 3, 2022 9:30 am

For those of you knocking his G League stats, its not about being the savior. Its about this team going nowhere...what do you have to lose.

Unless you think a 31 year old SF is our best option at PG? Who by the way is having a career worst season partly because he is playing out of position.

Mainstream media also sees it

https://dailyknicks.com/2022/03/02/miles-mcbride-proves-new-york-knicks-tom-thibodeau-fail-bigger-picture/
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#46 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 3, 2022 9:40 am

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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#47 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Mar 3, 2022 12:26 pm

rayraypico wrote:For those of you knocking his G League stats, its not about being the savior. Its about this team going nowhere...what do you have to lose.

Unless you think a 31 year old SF is our best option at PG? Who by the way is having a career worst season partly because he is playing out of position.

Mainstream media also sees it

https://dailyknicks.com/2022/03/02/miles-mcbride-proves-new-york-knicks-tom-thibodeau-fail-bigger-picture/


Yea, he doesnt have to be a savior to play especially when Alec Burks is our PG and this team stinks. That is a crazy argument to make. Why is Alec Burks playing then if he's not our savior? Or anyone for that matter?
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#48 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Mar 3, 2022 12:32 pm

I think Burks could drop 40 in the G-League. I mean, he'd give up 40, but still.
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#49 » by Kampuchea » Thu Mar 3, 2022 12:36 pm

rayraypico wrote:For those of you knocking his G League stats, its not about being the savior. Its about this team going nowhere...what do you have to lose.

Unless you think a 31 year old SF is our best option at PG? Who by the way is having a career worst season partly because he is playing out of position.

Mainstream media also sees it

https://dailyknicks.com/2022/03/02/miles-mcbride-proves-new-york-knicks-tom-thibodeau-fail-bigger-picture/


I don't think there is a single person who wants Burks to play over McBride. Point is, people need to stop overrating McBride and other players off of G League stats.

Would love to see McBride play now at the expense of Burks, just so we can have something to really evaluate him on besides G league. Plus Burks is a known commodity - he isn't getting better and this season is toast. Play the youth.
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#50 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Mar 3, 2022 12:45 pm

Kampuchea wrote:
KnixtapeH20 wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:

Knicks lost this guy for NOTHING! :banghead:

He's so fkn ass bro stop


Why IGGYs 33 points no good but McBride drops 30 and he's MJ?


No one on this board thinks Deuce is MJ or any kind of savior. What he is though is an actual PG and this team currently (all year basically) doesn't have one on the floor any given night. Your take is nonsense and so are Thibs rotations. Give the kid minutes and see what he can do. We are wasting time with Burks and IQ for what exactly?
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#51 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Mar 3, 2022 12:48 pm

G-League isnt really even the point. Deuce could be stinking it up in the G-League and I would still want him to play over Burks. :lol:

G-League doesn't mean Deuce is good, but it doesn't mean he's bad either. There are some players that do well there and make it in the big leagues. A lot dont. The only way to find out what he can really do is play him.
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#52 » by Kampuchea » Thu Mar 3, 2022 12:48 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
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KnixtapeH20 wrote:He's so fkn ass bro stop


Why IGGYs 33 points no good but McBride drops 30 and he's MJ?


No one on this board thinks Deuce is MJ or any kind of savior. What he is though is an actual PG and this team currently (all year basically) doesn't have one on the floor any given night. Your take is nonsense and so are Thibs rotations. Give the kid minutes and see what he can do. We are wasting time with Burks and IQ for what exactly?


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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#53 » by Kampuchea » Thu Mar 3, 2022 12:51 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:G-League isnt really even the point. Deuce could be stinking it up in the G-League and I would still want him to play over Burks. :lol:


It's not even like Burks is playing well either. The only benefit to playing Burks right now is he is helping the Tank by being a net negative.

It has to be time to pull the plug on this season soon. I mean he finally went to Sims so McBride must be next
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#54 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Mar 3, 2022 12:55 pm

Kampuchea wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:G-League isnt really even the point. Deuce could be stinking it up in the G-League and I would still want him to play over Burks. :lol:


It's not even like Burks is playing well either. The only benefit to playing Burks right now is he is helping the Tank by being a net negative.

It has to be time to pull the plug on this season soon. I mean he finally went to Sims so McBride must be next


Only the Knicks and ol Thibs would be this stubborn.
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#55 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Mar 3, 2022 1:22 pm

Kampuchea wrote:
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Why IGGYs 33 points no good but McBride drops 30 and he's MJ?


No one on this board thinks Deuce is MJ or any kind of savior. What he is though is an actual PG and this team currently (all year basically) doesn't have one on the floor any given night. Your take is nonsense and so are Thibs rotations. Give the kid minutes and see what he can do. We are wasting time with Burks and IQ for what exactly?


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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#56 » by duetta » Thu Mar 3, 2022 1:30 pm

The big knock against McBride has to be that he does not consistently penetrate - perhaps because he does not appear to have the quickness of a Trey Young type player. He needs to work on weaving his way to the hoop, Mark Jackson-style, and once he does that, he can have a long career in the league. He needs coaching - but he also needs repetitions. Given how bad our backcourt is, there's no good reason why he should not get those repetitions on the pro-level.

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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#57 » by Gravy » Thu Mar 3, 2022 1:43 pm

Deuce should be worked in at least 5-10 minutes even if he sucks just so the fans can see for ourselves. The downside is instead of being competitive for 3qtrs we are instantly blown out and lose by 70. As much as you guys want to be OKC and Orlando the Knicks can't lose every game by 70 without someone being instantly fired. Like cgwm said he's in the building rooting for meaningless wins because he's having a fun night out.

Now if deuce is actually good and sitting on the bench because thibs loves him some Burks then he should be evaluated psychiatrically instead of coaching the Knicks. I'll assume Thibs is right because of his recent record of winning coy, benching Kemba then everyone calling him an idiot because Kemba had two good games, Obi looking bad now when everyone was mad Thibs called him the backup QB.

G league stats are pretty meaningless shout out to Isaiah Hicks and Troy Williams.
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#58 » by FrozenEnvelope » Thu Mar 3, 2022 2:38 pm

Unless Deuce is as bad as JR Smith's bro or Frank, Thibs is gonna look really bad. Just give Deuce 15 mpg for a week and see what happens! If he really does suck, he can always go back to his precious Burks!
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#59 » by The Lamma » Fri Mar 4, 2022 1:24 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
The Lamma wrote:We just don't have PT available for Deuce because we're grooming Burks to be the next Magic Johnson and to do so he needs 48 minutes a game

We'll change his number to 32. Magic Burks.

Queue up the Globetrotters whistle while he dazzles you with his elite court vision


Does Magic Burks have a disappearing act?


Yes, he can make assists disappear :D

I have what I realize is an irrational disdain for Burks because it's not his fault he's being thrust into a role that's not suited for him. That's on the front office for not having the right players in place and the coach for not using what he has properly. Burks as a wing off the bench is actually decent in that role. That's good Burks. But we're hammering a square peg into a round hole by having him run point and his production has predictably declined. Bad Burks.

And no one here views McBride as a "Savior," we just see the guy has actual point guard skills and maybe we should be developing him since we don't have chit in that regard anywhere on the roster outside of D Rose (when healthy) who we know is more of a scorer than a set up guy. Burks can't run the team. IQ can't run the team. Deuce in limited PT looks like he at least may have the ability to control the offense, hit outside shots, and play some really pesty defense.

You'd think the defense alone would enamor him to Thibasaurus who is supposed to be all about defensive effort. So given where we are with things both as a team on the court and record wise, it's just time to give him a shot.
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Re: The Deuce McBride Disrespect Must Stop 

Post#60 » by nyk2017 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:42 am

Kampuchea wrote:
rayraypico wrote:For those of you knocking his G League stats, its not about being the savior. Its about this team going nowhere...what do you have to lose.

Unless you think a 31 year old SF is our best option at PG? Who by the way is having a career worst season partly because he is playing out of position.

Mainstream media also sees it

https://dailyknicks.com/2022/03/02/miles-mcbride-proves-new-york-knicks-tom-thibodeau-fail-bigger-picture/


I don't think there is a single person who wants Burks to play over McBride. Point is, people need to stop overrating McBride and other players off of G League stats.

Would love to see McBride play now at the expense of Burks, just so we can have something to really evaluate him on besides G league. Plus Burks is a known commodity - he isn't getting better and this season is toast. Play the youth.



Unfortunately, there is one person who does want Burks to play over McBride. His is the only vote that counts.

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